This dude for real??

If rumph can’t get commitments from the kids he’s asked to recruit then that’s on him. why does it matter that he wanted to recruit different kids? no position coach gets to go it alone in recruiting. Doesn’t mean manny and baker don’t deserve blame for a different issue, which is evals and prioritization. But ultimately rumph’s job is to get kids, not blame others when he fails to.
Listen I 100% agree, I’ve always defended Rumph because he’s a good X and Os coach (believe it or not) but he needs to recruit better. To your point YES if he is told to recruit certain kids he needs to land them, and also which I think was missed in my message, maybe Rumph wanted to recruit smaller corners (which I’m 100% cool with) but who’s to say he would have landed them either.
 
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I would imagine Banda being co-DC is the reason he has so much say. Rumph probably reports to him. In my opinion co anything doesn’t make a lot of sense and can lead to 2 people working to get along with each other rather than 1 person being in charge and saying this how it’s gong to be and I accept responsibility. Usually when you co something it’s because you want to pay someone more than their position calls for so you give them a title. Just pay them what they’re worth to keep them. You can have the senior man training the junior man but only one in charge. I like Manny but I think this is something that need cleaned up this off season.
 
It’s amazing how Banda only loses corners.
Banda’s done a great job in recruiting. That said - Does Banda have to sign off on the Corner offers and is he hindering us from making offers? Not an excuse for Rumph as he still can’t get who they want to target but there’s a talent identification problem and I am curious as to who really deserves responsibility for it on the talent recognition aspect of it.
 
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Pls blow this chit up.

I’m not giving Rumph any pass; but this is rhetoric has been stated both on social media & here by some close to the program for the past several seasons, prior to Diaz becoming HC.

It’s starting to feel like the good ole boys club w/ Diaz & friends, w/ Rumph being on the outside looking in.

Feeling eerily similar to Hurlie trying to offer his opinion and getting shut down by D’Onfrio & cronies.

I don’t know what to believe, but if this is being said so often, per history, maybe there is a little smoke to this.
 
This is a business and this is how I view it. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

Mike Rumph is brought on to a major corporation as the director of sales. Ephram Banda is the director of Marketing at this corporation. Mike Rumph wants to bring in a new sales team. Ephram Banda, as the director of Marketing has final say in who Mike Rumph can bring onto the sales team because he has a longstanding relationship with the president/CEO Manny Diaz.

In what universe does this make sense? I don't care if it happens at other programs. This is a All American alumni corner coming back home to coach his alma mater. How Banda has final say in who we recruit at corner is unfathomable considering Banda hasn't done a lick in his life outside of being able to make a solid mixed drink at a busy bar. If I was Rumph I would have gotten out of town already but I believe his reputation is tarnished from this fiasco. It's a **** shame. Rumph should have still closed on some of these guys, but If I had to guess Rumph is burnt the **** out from being stepped on by a guy who isn't even in the same stratosphere as him from a football perspective. Rumph has to go, there is no denying that but what a god **** shame his tenure has been here. The blame goes to him about 40% while the other 60% goes to Banda and Diaz.
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Banda rumors about another job Rumph has no one knocking on his door for an offer. I'm surprised Rumph came to UM to coach isn't he a CB? 🤣

Rumph better not be on this staff next season
Yea let’s keep the coaches that set an ncaa record from out front 7! Lol You trust them guys over Rumph a first round all American over a bartender! I got you
 
What might that mean?

Caused = cost
Certain bartender = Banda
One year = this year

Banda cost us 3 cbs this year?

Okay, let’s run with this. Rumph, Manny and Baker couldn’t figure out CB recruiting while Banda was hauling in James Williams, Kinchens on top of A. Williams, Balom and Harrell?

Or maybe sour grapes from the person responsible for CB recruiting, who failed at it (again). Hey CB recruiter, why’d you not sign CBs? Hey, because that bartender. His fault. Not your fault? Nope, definitely not my fault. His fault. Ah, okay. Well, I’m sure one of these years you’ll take responsibility for your recruiting shortcomings, unless it’s always someone else’s fault. Yeah, no doubt. If it’s ever my fault I’ll be quicklyest to let you know. Cool. Cool.

Mike Rumph has to be the unluckiest coach in America.

Every other position on the team was recruited just fine and every other position coach has promising talent to work with. But out of every other coach on the team Mike Rumph has apparently been singled out and sabotaged by Manny and a fellow position coach (who himself landed the #1, #2 and #7 ranked recruits in the last three years at the position he coaches).

Apparently poor Mike Rumph had identified and could have landed three high caliber CB recruits but Manny and Banda didn't want him to do that even though they allowed all the other coaches on the team to recruit top caliber kids.

Manny and Banda must hate Mike Rumph to such an extent that they're willing to allow every position coach on the staff to recruit top players except Mike Rumph. Manny and Banda apparently want to recruit top players at 20 out of 22 positions on the team, but want don't want to recruit top talent at CB.

Is that what we're supposed to believe? LOL
 
Yea let’s keep the coaches that set an ncaa record from out front 7! Lol You trust them guys over Rumph a first round all American over a bartender! I got you
Hes not a bartender anymore and Rumph isnt in the NFL or going to the draft now. I trust wee have gotten safeties on the trail thats facts and we havent hit on Corners thats facts. Dont know if u being sarcastic or not, im not even sure.
 
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Mike Rumph has to be the unluckiest coach in America.

Every other position on the team was recruited just fine and every other position coach has promising talent to work with. But out of every other coach on the team Mike Rumph has apparently been singled out and sabotaged by Manny and a fellow position coach (who himself landed the #1, #2 and #7 ranked recruits in the last three years at the position he coaches).

Apparently poor Mike Rumph had identified and could have landed three high caliber CB recruits but Manny and Banda didn't want him to do that even though they allowed all the other coaches on the team to recruit top caliber kids.

Manny and Banda must hate Mike Rumph to such an extent that they're willing to allow every position coach on the staff to recruit top players except Mike Rumph. Manny and Banda apparently want to recruit top players at 20 out of 22 positions on the team, but want don't want to recruit top talent at CB.

Is that what we're supposed to believe? LOL
Add to it...Rumph has been offered the dc position...TWICE here.
 
Mike Rumph has to be the unluckiest coach in America.

Every other position on the team was recruited just fine and every other position coach has promising talent to work with. But out of every other coach on the team Mike Rumph has apparently been singled out and sabotaged by Manny and a fellow position coach (who himself landed the #1, #2 and #7 ranked recruits in the last three years at the position he coaches).

Apparently poor Mike Rumph had identified and could have landed three high caliber CB recruits but Manny and Banda didn't want him to do that even though they allowed all the other coaches on the team to recruit top caliber kids.

Manny and Banda must hate Mike Rumph to such an extent that they're willing to allow every position coach on the staff to recruit top players except Mike Rumph. Manny and Banda apparently want to recruit top players at 20 out of 22 positions on the team, but want don't want to recruit top talent at CB.

Is that what we're supposed to believe? LOL
LOL.At this rate the Rumph simps are going to start spreading rumors about him being mentally challenged and Diaz and Banda are not creating the adequate conditions for someone with his handicap to succeed here.
 
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My guess, since it’s been mentioned on the board a few times, is that Banda has say so along with Manny on who we offer at CB (not Rumph). It’s my understanding Rumph wanted to offer or recruit certain kids and due to certain reasons (size, film) Banda refused to allow him to offer, hence we lost out on some CB that turned out to be pretty good that had legitimate interest.
Man these are facts but no one wants to believe it. Everyone wants to blame Rumph for everything when it's not true. Does he deserve some blame, sure. Should he be fired, I don't care either way. Does Banda deserve some blame, sure. Does Banda recruit safeties well & shouldn't have to recruit CBs, sure. This is Manny's fault.
 
Pls blow this chit up.

I’m not giving Rumph any pass; but this is rhetoric has been stated both on social media & here by some close to the program for the past several seasons, prior to Diaz becoming HC.

It’s starting to feel like the good ole boys club w/ Diaz & friends, w/ Rumph being on the outside looking in.

Feeling eerily similar to Hurlie trying to offer his opinion and getting shut down by D’Onfrio & cronies.

I don’t know what to believe, but if this is being said so often, per history, maybe there is a little smoke to this.
@Rellyrell ....this is exactly what's going on.....and there's even more that I won't discuss...as a promise to someone...
 
For arguments sake, let’s say this is true, let’s say Banda has ultimate control over the CB recruiting, if you’re Rumph, given everything that you’ve accomplished in your career, won a National championship, being a 1st round draft pick, played in the NFL for 8 years etc, why would you subject yourself to being under the control of two dudes like Manny& Banda??? I mean if you’re Rumph & you’re being held back from doing your job while simultaneously getting blamed for things you’re allegedly not responsible for, why not just leave & go get a job at a school elsewhere then you can show just how good of a Coach/Recruiter you really are?

I mean think of it like this, CB’s in South FL are one of the highest valued commodities on the recruiting market, SEC, B1G, Big XII, AAC, CUSA & the rest of the ACC spends hundreds of thousands of dollars every year recruiting South FL Corners, so if you’re a CB coach with connection & ability to sign those kids that would give you negotiating leverage on the market, you could make yourself a valuable asset to a program if you possess the ability to sign the most coveted CB’s at a premium position from a hotbed recruiting zone like South FL. Which means, a guy like Mike Rumph would be someone that numerous other teams would be willing to pay top dollar to steadily bring them South FL CB’s, which means if he were being treated unfairly he could easily get a new job elsewhere & show off his recruiting prowess, so then the question becomes if all of this were true, why hasn’t he???

Rumph has no say so in which players he gets to recruit, he can’t offer any CB himself without Banda & Diaz’s permission, he has no responsibility for who he recruits & if the guy he does recruit doesn’t commit & sign with Miami he gets blamed for it even though it’s not his fault, he supposedly coaches both the CB’s & the Safeties while again not getting credit for it, so someone explain to me why he would be perfectly fine with this scenario as a coach for literally 5-6 years straight??? I assume he has pride doesn’t he, why would he accept this reality of being under the autonomy of Banda if he has no input on anything & gets blamed for everything??? It’s not like he has some million dollar salary to protect, so what it is?

At the end day, logic tells you that this is all a crock of shît, it’s quite obvious what’s going on, but at this point this discussion has been beaten to Death. If the rumors about Banda possibly heading to Utah St are true, then all the Rumph-Truthers will finally get their wish, Big Bad Banda will be out of the way & Rumph will have his time to shine, let’s see what happens when Rumph doesn’t have Banda holding him back & he’s allowed to offer & recruit who he wants, let’s see how many premier 4/5-star CB’s he lands & since he coaches the Safeties too, let’s see him land prospects like Kamari Wilson, Marquis Lymon etc, let’s finally see what Rumph is made of & how good a recruiter he really is without the “Bartender” blocking him...
 
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