Ryan Williams.. Is It Time To Start Him?

[NVA CANE]

There should be a discussion. QBs aren't sacred cows.

This. Give Williams a shot and let's see what he does. Sometimes a one game break can help a qb. So morris get some time off and get his mind right. Otherwise we will be having this same discussion at the WF game

 

[DiegoCane]

Let me throw this out there for all you that think you are smarter, know more then the coaches that see these guys everyday:

This line?

I'm sure you used to spout this during Coker and Shannon's tenure. Figured you'd learn by now.


Morris obviously won the job all camp, unfortunately, things change and the situation is fluid. I doubt the coaches expected his last two outings to looks this way. Or for his ankle to become an issue. I promise you there will be some serious debate going on among them while reviewing the tape of this disaster Morris served up.

No doubt Morris was awful tonight. There won't even be a discussion who starts vs WF.

Nope. But, it doesn't mean that they are right. You know that Ryan Williams will be our QB next season! So he isn't horrible.

I didn't say, or have ever said Williams was horrible unlike 75% of this board. Until Williams lit up vs SSU and USF, he was a guy that would never start here according to 75+% of this board. Now people him to replace a kid with 25+ starts on a 6-0 team with the biggest game in 10 years in 2 weeks.

 

[FRCane]

I just wish I knew what to expect out of Morris. It's night and day with him .... not game to game ... but play to play.

 

[wushah]

From the outside looking in, it's quite easy for some to say that they want Williams to start. However, after the first fumble, mishandled handoff exchange, or INT, these same people will be yearning for Morris to get back under center.

The team also has to consider what the consequences are down the line. What do they do if Williams has a great game against a ****** Wake team? Do they then have a QB controversy that would likely divide the team heading into the meat of the ACC schedule?

Personally, I'm a Williams fan, but I'm not sure if he's better or worse than Morris. I don't think I've seen enough of him against solid competition to say. His sample size is certainly small. I would imagine at best, he could be something like Dorsey. At worst, he's Jacory-esque??? It's hard to say. I would certainly sit Morris, however, if his ankle was still a problem. It's not helping the team or his confidence to be out there on a crappy ankle.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Let me throw this out there for all you that think you are smarter, know more then the coaches that see these guys everyday:

This line?

I'm sure you used to spout this during Coker and Shannon's tenure. Figured you'd learn by now.


Morris obviously won the job all camp, unfortunately, things change and the situation is fluid. I doubt the coaches expected his last two outings to looks this way. Or for his ankle to become an issue. I promise you there will be some serious debate going on among them while reviewing the tape of this disaster Morris served up.

No doubt Morris was awful tonight. There won't even be a discussion who starts vs WF.

Nope. But, it doesn't mean that they are right. You know that Ryan Williams will be our QB next season! So he isn't horrible.

I didn't say, or have ever said Williams was horrible unlike 75% of this board. Until Williams lit up vs SSU and USF, he was a guy that would never start here according to 75+% of this board. Now people him to replace a kid with 25+ starts on a 6-0 team with the biggest game in 10 years in 2 weeks.

FSU is the biggest game in 10 years?

 

[DiegoCane]

This line?

I'm sure you used to spout this during Coker and Shannon's tenure. Figured you'd learn by now.


Morris obviously won the job all camp, unfortunately, things change and the situation is fluid. I doubt the coaches expected his last two outings to looks this way. Or for his ankle to become an issue. I promise you there will be some serious debate going on among them while reviewing the tape of this disaster Morris served up.

No doubt Morris was awful tonight. There won't even be a discussion who starts vs WF.

Nope. But, it doesn't mean that they are right. You know that Ryan Williams will be our QB next season! So he isn't horrible.

I didn't say, or have ever said Williams was horrible unlike 75% of this board. Until Williams lit up vs SSU and USF, he was a guy that would never start here according to 75+% of this board. Now people him to replace a kid with 25+ starts on a 6-0 team with the biggest game in 10 years in 2 weeks.

FSU is the biggest game in 10 years?

Said a little tongue and cheeks but pretty **** close.

03 @ FSU and @ VTech are the only ones that stick out that can compare.

 

[hoops156]

lol u guys wNna change ur qb 2 weeks before FSU. williams maybe good but well find out next year, not right now. every qb has their bad games but u dont want a qb who hasnt had exp against solid teams going into tally.

 

[LexCane55]

If Morris struggles early vs WF i'd pull him

But I think you stay with him for now. Hopefully he has a big time game vs WF and is confident headed to Tally

 

[DeadPoets]

I follow the Texans. Backup QB isn't always the better option.

I hope Williams is the man next year. But Morris is who we're rolling with this year... so tighten your buttcheeks

 

[Homesteadwhat]

Morris been throwin INT since Spring, nothing has changed and nothing will change. Dont think he needs to be pulled though.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Beginning to look like Morris will not be that guy we had hoped. He isn't going to suddenly elevate his game (been four years). He is the same QB he was as a freshman.


We may get a short streak of great play out of him (like UF, 1st QTR) but otherwise, the FSU and VT games will be a matter of Morris NOT being awful.

 

[DCF in LA]

You guys are seriously selling on sending Morris into Trailerhassee coming off 2 consecutive poor performances, sandwiched around two other weeks during which he hasn't practiced much, because you're trying to get an ankle injury right that will likely not be right until the season is over? Zuh?

Play him against Wake and attempt to build his confidence back up by racking up numbers and completions. Dude has been mostly out of rhythm, and the extra week of rest clearly didn't amount to a hill of beans against UNC. There's no reason to rest him even more, it's already not helping. Nope, I think the only way he's going to get out of this is by learning to play hurt and dealing with it. There will be no quick fix solution that's going to heal his ankle without a month or more of rest, so he's got to suck it up, and Coley must adjust his gameplan to account for his QB having a bum wheel.



Or.... you start Williams against Wake and don't look back. Those are your choices. My money is on Coach G going with the above.

 

[SmokeyRone]

You guys are seriously selling on sending Morris into Trailerhassee coming off 2 consecutive poor performances, sandwiched around two other weeks during which he hasn't practiced much, because you're trying to get an ankle injury right that will likely not be right until the season is over? Zuh?

Play him against Wake and attempt to build his confidence back up by racking up numbers and completions. Dude has been mostly out of rhythm, and the extra week of rest clearly didn't amount to a hill of beans against UNC. There's no reason to rest him even more, it's already not helping. Nope, I think the only way he's going to get out of this is by learning to play hurt and dealing with it. There will be no quick fix solution that's going to heal his ankle without a month or more of rest, so he's got to suck it up, and Coley must adjust his gameplan to account for his QB having a bum wheel.



Or.... you start Williams against Wake and don't look back. Those are your choices. My money is on Coach G going with the above.

It's kinda like we are VT now. Whole strategy is how to win without a QB. (VT will gladly run 3 and out and punt until we throw INTs).

 

[DCF in LA]

You guys are seriously selling on sending Morris into Trailerhassee coming off 2 consecutive poor performances, sandwiched around two other weeks during which he hasn't practiced much, because you're trying to get an ankle injury right that will likely not be right until the season is over? Zuh?

Play him against Wake and attempt to build his confidence back up by racking up numbers and completions. Dude has been mostly out of rhythm, and the extra week of rest clearly didn't amount to a hill of beans against UNC. There's no reason to rest him even more, it's already not helping. Nope, I think the only way he's going to get out of this is by learning to play hurt and dealing with it. There will be no quick fix solution that's going to heal his ankle without a month or more of rest, so he's got to suck it up, and Coley must adjust his gameplan to account for his QB having a bum wheel.



Or.... you start Williams against Wake and don't look back. Those are your choices. My money is on Coach G going with the above.

It's kinda like we are VT now. Whole strategy is how to win without a QB. (VT will gladly run 3 and out and punt until we throw INTs).

Maybe we do have to go more conservative and run the ball more, sure. That's definitely an option. But the thing is, we actually do have the horses up front to do it, and a couple of backs to carry the load. Why not go run-first and make things easier for Morris? I suspect that's what we'll see more of, and by the way, BC gashed FSU on the ground, something like 200 yards. We are capable of inflicting even more damage. It's up to the coaches to make adjustments.

 

[SmokeyRone]

You guys are seriously selling on sending Morris into Trailerhassee coming off 2 consecutive poor performances, sandwiched around two other weeks during which he hasn't practiced much, because you're trying to get an ankle injury right that will likely not be right until the season is over? Zuh?

Play him against Wake and attempt to build his confidence back up by racking up numbers and completions. Dude has been mostly out of rhythm, and the extra week of rest clearly didn't amount to a hill of beans against UNC. There's no reason to rest him even more, it's already not helping. Nope, I think the only way he's going to get out of this is by learning to play hurt and dealing with it. There will be no quick fix solution that's going to heal his ankle without a month or more of rest, so he's got to suck it up, and Coley must adjust his gameplan to account for his QB having a bum wheel.



Or.... you start Williams against Wake and don't look back. Those are your choices. My money is on Coach G going with the above.

It's kinda like we are VT now. Whole strategy is how to win without a QB. (VT will gladly run 3 and out and punt until we throw INTs).

Maybe we do have to go more conservative and run the ball more, sure. That's definitely an option. But the thing is, we actually do have the horses up front to do it, and a couple of backs to carry the load. Why not go run-first and make things easier for Morris? I suspect that's what we'll see more of, and by the way, BC gashed FSU on the ground, something like 200 yards. We are capable of inflicting even more damage. It's up to the coaches to make adjustments.

Yep. Pound the ball, and pray Morris can get us 1st downs on 3rd and 4. Problem is, EVERYONE is going to sell out against the run, and make Morris beat them (like with Jacory, Wright, Berlin). They might figure for ever play he makes, he throws two INTs

 

[hasena75]

NO... we know what Morris is capable of.. YES he's been a turnover machine but you don't bench your QB after a rough start

 

[OldhamA]

You don't bench your senior QB and one of the leaders of the team. You just don't.

He had a bad game. He'll bounce back.

Why not?

It's about accountability. Dude has kept nearly lost us two ACC games through is terrible play.

If Perryman was playing equally as poorly he'd be benched.

 

[motorcitycane]

First off some of you are confused, that QB competition was kind of close between the two to begin with go back and read all the practice reports.

I don't want to get into the who is better than who. Morris is the starter for a reason. I'm a Williams supporter in the fact I think RW makes better decisions. He uses the TE. He throws over the middle. There were throws that were open against UF that I'm sure Ryan could have hit for first downs. Morris looked for the big play instead of the first down. Morris also made throws that Williams can't make against UF.

With that being said, I hope AG plays Morris enough to get up 4TD's quickly and let RW finish the wake game. Just like North Carolina came alive for us, Miami will be up for FSU. I still think we hand them their second L of the season. I still wish we never had that first BYE and scheduled that after FSU.

 

[Morey161]

No

 

[BoroCane83]

If he was better, he'd be the starter....BUT I do think he should start vs Wake Forest. Make Morris sit and get his mind right and let his ankle heal. He was still limping on it.