OK, if the trio of Chud, Butch and Schiano are the top 3...

[MAGIC CITY CANE]

Lulz at the love for Butch Davis. There a lot of people in high stress / demanding professions that are better at age 62 then they were in their prime / late 40s? Especially when they've been off and on retired for about half of the previous 15 years. I'm thinking he just might not be as good a talent evaluator or recruiter as he was in his prime. Lot different recruiting environment in Miami today than in 2000. But hey, he'll just step right in with a staff that he doesn't have (because, cough, cough, he hasn't coached in 3 years) and not miss a beat.

You're crazy. Dude had North Carolina chock full of 1st Round talent. North Carloina. He hasn't lost anything as far as evals go. He will always have that.

Translated into a bunch of 8 win seasons.

 

[RyanCane26]

Jeff Jagodzinski this *****.. you interview elsewhere you're done here.

 

[BMS242]

Lulz at the love for Butch Davis. There a lot of people in high stress / demanding professions that are better at age 62 then they were in their prime / late 40s? Especially when they've been off and on retired for about half of the previous 15 years. I'm thinking he just might not be as good a talent evaluator or recruiter as he was in his prime. Lot different recruiting environment in Miami today than in 2000. But hey, he'll just step right in with a staff that he doesn't have (because, cough, cough, he hasn't coached in 3 years) and not miss a beat.

You're crazy. Dude had North Carolina chock full of 1st Round talent. North Carloina. He hasn't lost anything as far as evals go. He will always have that.

Translated into a bunch of 8 win seasons.

The year when the sh*t hit the fan for them and they had to suspend a bunch of guys, they were poised to have a National Championship caliber defense. You throw a Duke Johnson and Stacy Coley on that squad, which he would be more likely to do at UM, and they would have been contending by the time he was on his way out.

Game day coaching is still questionable, but he can still spot talent.

 

[FullyERicht]

Petrino or Kingsbury.

So you want a 34 year old guy who has a total of 5 years as a coach to run the U? Do you actually follow this team???? Jesus christ

Yep, he's a great coach. I'm sure you would've said the same thing about Gus Malzhan too. Do you actually follow football??? Jesus christ

What exactly makes him a great coach? MIAMI IS NOT IN A POSITION TO HIRE A COLLEGE COORDINATOR OR 35 YEAR OLD JAG WITH FIVE YEARS OF TOTAL COACHING.

If you don't understand why such a hire would be beyond idiotic you should read more and post less.

Interesting how you launch into personal insults if anyone disagrees with you...

You should watch Texas Tech play if you have to ask what makes him a great coach. Based on the content of your posts, I doubt you watch much football anyway. And ruling out any candidate merely because they are a college coordinator is silly. Why limit any options?

Typing in all caps doesn't make what you say any more correct or factual. Oh, and perhaps you should take your own advice and read more and post less.

Bc there is no actual way to know if they can run a program. There is a difference between being a good x and o's man and being able to run a major college program that is frankly only a job for very special coaches to handle.

And at this point in time, the U CANNOT take such a risk. We already know guys like Schiano and Butch can run a program, recruit, and develop/coach.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Butch
Schiano
Chud

That's the order I got.

Agree, butch knows college talent better than maybe anyone in the country.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

Butch
Schiano
Chud

That's the order I got.

Agree, butch knows college talent better than maybe anyone in the country.

Worst case scenario, he restocks our roster and allows someone to come in and carry us over the finish line.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Butch
Schiano
Chud

That's the order I got.

Agree, butch knows college talent better than maybe anyone in the country.

Worst case scenario, he restocks our roster and allows someone to come in and carry us over the finish line.

Butch is a no brainer to me...outside the NCAA mess which he was cleared of. He can come here restock the talent and groom a successor.

It's amazing to me that people dismiss the fact that Butch Davis assembled THE most talented college football team of all time. Ponder that for a moment....

 

[The Dude]

Butch
Schiano
Chud

That's the order I got.

Agree, butch knows college talent better than maybe anyone in the country.

Worst case scenario, he restocks our roster and allows someone to come in and carry us over the finish line.

Butch is a no brainer to me...outside the NCAA mess which he was cleared of. He can come here restock the talent and groom a successor.

It's amazing to me that people dismiss the fact that Butch Davis assembled THE most talented college football team of all time. Ponder that for a moment....

And he was doing it in North Carolina before he got the boot...unfortunately, Donna thinks she is better than she really is and won't hire Butch.

 

[MAGIC CITY CANE]

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[poncho0091]

Lulz at the love for Butch Davis. There a lot of people in high stress / demanding professions that are better at age 62 then they were in their prime / late 40s? Especially when they've been off and on retired for about half of the previous 15 years. I'm thinking he just might not be as good a talent evaluator or recruiter as he was in his prime. Lot different recruiting environment in Miami today than in 2000. But hey, he'll just step right in with a staff that he doesn't have (because, cough, cough, he hasn't coached in 3 years) and not miss a beat.

You're crazy. Dude had North Carolina chock full of 1st Round talent. North Carloina. He hasn't lost anything as far as evals go. He will always have that.

Translated into a bunch of 8 win seasons.

Davis was at North Carolina for 4 years. 2006 season - 2010 season and fired before the 2011 season began. In that 2010 season, they had to suspend 8 or 9 starters, something crazy like that and I'm not talking about like when we suspended 6 players like Jacory Harris or Vernon for a couple game. I'm talking about quite a few guys who were projected first round guys and still made the first day of the draft after not playing an entire season. In this season, they should have beat LSU (non call on pass interference as time was running out that if the pass was caught, UNC wins). They also whipped our ***, Beat a ranked FSU, and only lost 5 games with nearly a complete team of backup players starting all season. This was only a couple years ago this happened, not like like some ancient story.

 

[wushah]

Niner,

Of the 3, Butch has had the most success. So you interview him, hear what he has to say, how much he wants for himself and his staff, and sleep on it. If Miami thinks it can work, that's your guy plain and simple. It's often been said that the best guy to hire is the guy who failed, took time off, and now wants back in because he's learned and is hungry. I think Butch is that guy.

If Butch isn't that guy, then it's a bit of a toss-up between Schiano and Chud. For me, i would probably take Chud because it's a lot harder to find good offensive coaches than defensive ones. Let Chud bring Dorsey to help with the QBs and bring in a good, hungry, defensive mind.

So for me:

Butch
Chud
Schiano

 

[Cane Steve]

So for me:

Butch
Chud
Schiano

This

 

[k9cane]

Niner,

Of the 3, Butch has had the most success. So you interview him, hear what he has to say, how much he ways for himself and his staff, and sleep on it. If Miami thinks it can work, that's your guy plain and simple. It's often been said that the best guy to hire is the guy who failed, took time off, and now wants back in because he's learned and is hungry. I think Butch is that guy.

If Butch is that guy, then it's a bit of a toss-up between Schiano and Chud. For me, i would probably take Chud because it's a lot harder to find good offensive coaches than defensive ones. Let Chud bring Dorsey to help with the QBs and bring in a good, hungry, defensive mind.

So for me:

Butch
Chud
Schiano

Yeah, Butch is a very solid choice for this time and moment. I really hope that his words about really appreciating what he had at Miami and what he left behind are true. I've always felt he did his legacy a disservice by not sticking around awhile and putting a few rings on his fingers before leaving for the greener pastures of UM

 

[TommyCanes]

Butch
Schiano
Chud

That's the order I got.

Agree, butch knows college talent better than maybe anyone in the country.

Worst case scenario, he restocks our roster and allows someone to come in and carry us over the finish line.

Sigh... too bad our administration will **** up the hiring as they've done before... even though there are at least 4 guys who could do wonders here - Butch, Chud, Petrino, and Schiano.

 

[Canesfrom]

I'd be willing to bet that Schiano or Chud will be the next coach.. hoping for Butch or Petrino though. Any of the four would be good though.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Well Im firmly in the camp that believes **** will freeze over before Butch is ever hired here again. Like anyone I would obviously be delighted, but I think its a waste of time to even consider the possibility. People are setting themselves up for MAJOR disappointment over this Butch thing.

Schiano laughed in our faces last time. I dont think he's out of the realm of possibilities here, but they guy flat out turned us down last time, would we offer again? And if he took it, how long would he stay? Seems like a guy that would bolt as soon as the next better gig opened up for him. Which could be in a year or two. **** I think he would go back to Rutgers if they offered him. How embarassing would that be?

Chud I think is the most realistic, but Im not exactly doing backflips over it either. Chud hasnt been in the college game in over a decade. He's really been an NFL guy for a long time now, and looks like that is where he wants to be. I think like Schiano, Chud would be looking to move on as soon as possible. Also dont think he's a "slam dunk" of a great coach either. Guy was just sh8tcanned after one year as an HC. Recruiting is a big question mark. His offense here wasnt exactly beloved when he was OC either.

I dont think we have many great choices.

 

[The Franchise]

Any list that doesn't contain Olives is a fraud.

Olives
Butch
Monkey Boy

Any of those 3 would be a monster upgrade.

Chise, you think Chud is more of the same ol', same ol'?

That would be my biggest fear with him...

I've got no interest in Chud. Way too many question marks with him (i.e., recruiting, track record as a HC, personality issues, etc.). Guys should ask themselves if he didn't play at UM would they even be mentioning him. If not, then why consider him.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Any list that doesn't contain Olives is a fraud.

Olives
Butch
Monkey Boy

Any of those 3 would be a monster upgrade.

Chise, you think Chud is more of the same ol', same ol'?

That would be my biggest fear with him...

I've got no interest in Chud. Way too many question marks with him (i.e., recruiting, track record as a HC, personality issues, etc.). Guys should ask themselves if he didn't play at UM would they even be mentioning him. If not, then why consider him.

Is everyone convinced we are going with someone with ties to the program this time? If so, Curtis Johnson might be a good choice. I think he needs a couple more years, but he fits just about everything on the checklist outside of years as a HC.

 

[FullyERicht]

Any list that doesn't contain Olives is a fraud.

Olives
Butch
Monkey Boy

Any of those 3 would be a monster upgrade.

Chise, you think Chud is more of the same ol', same ol'?

That would be my biggest fear with him...

I've got no interest in Chud. Way too many question marks with him (i.e., recruiting, track record as a HC, personality issues, etc.). Guys should ask themselves if he didn't play at UM would they even be mentioning him. If not, then why consider him.

Amen bro. Chud is a major question mark. People don't seem to understand the kind of coaches that succeeded here. They look for former Canes or coordinators with flashy schemes and bust their load over it. It's ridiculous.

 

[k9cane]

Any list that doesn't contain Olives is a fraud.

Olives
Butch
Monkey Boy

Any of those 3 would be a monster upgrade.

Chise, you think Chud is more of the same ol', same ol'?

That would be my biggest fear with him...

I've got no interest in Chud. Way too many question marks with him (i.e., recruiting, track record as a HC, personality issues, etc.). Guys should ask themselves if he didn't play at UM would they even be mentioning him. If not, then why consider him.

Yeah those are are valid concerns. And for all his NFL experiences, he's been a head coach for all of one season.

And who's to say he wouldnt be looking to get back to the NFL at the very opportunity?

UM needs some real stability, they are going on what, three coaches since 2006?