Rumor Underwood flip story

That's only if you take a 1year sample size. I think Nebraska and Texas are happy with ROI to this point. I would expect Michigan to go after the top portal QB for next year if they truly are trying to win. The problem with that last paragraph for me is we all see what happens when you land a real QB. A great QB potentially eats 30% of the budget because they can mask deficiencies elsewhere on the roster.
what nebraska happy about?.


We keep our bread to grab a proven one out the portal and set the budget correctly for the high school guys.

Michigan jumping out the window on a hs guy from Michigan who is creating some buzz for recruits butt..........

I like our line of paying the big buck out the portal and grabbing a top 5 portal qb.
 
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Because of NIL is the ONLY reason Miami & other schools even have an opportunity to sign Elite highly ranked prospects.

Before NIL, that privilege was only reserved for Bama & UGA.

You guys were excited when we landed Francis Mauigoa, Justin Scott, Marquise Lightfoot & kids from this class like Hayden Lowe & Jaboree Antoine right? Well we don't get any of those kids without NIL & the system being the way that it is.

All the flips we're about to land pretty soon, are as a direct result of us having the ability to outbid our competitors. The moment you allow the NCAA to put guardrails on this thing, that will pendulum swing the advantage back in favor of UGA & Bama.

Those teams can't dominate CFB anymore because they can't hoard & steal all the talent from HS & the Portal, that's only possible because NIL is the Wild West. The moment you regulate it, Miami & the rest of CFB is screwed. You can bet the house on that.
Straight facts...
 
Paying $10m+ for a high school QB who’s yet to take a snap of college football is madness. Nico hasn’t lived up to his hefty salary at Tennessee yet. You pay proven QBs like Cam not High school ones.
 
I post my opinions. I don't post for likes.
That's not the point, but considering our dialogue thus far, I'm not surprised that you don't get it.
You didn't post any opinions; just attacked mine. Pick a fight with someone else. I'm not at you level of being miserable and not looking to be dragged down to that level either.
 
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I was a 9am to midnight Saturday CFB fan for years. Hang out with the guys, good food and drink, all day football. We even played season long fantasy college. We folded the league and barely watch together anymore. It's just not enjoyable like it used to be. The constant discussion about NIL is annoying, but the guys transferring every other weekend and entire roster turnover every year is worse. There is no development anymore. There is no team. It's individuals (coaches and players) bouncing around for the biggest check or guaranteed spot. The kid from UNLV sitting out after a few games and saying it's due to NIL was just the cherry on top, well before this Underwood thing. CFB will become a playground for billionaires.
This is precisely what I was driving at.
 
I’m sure this will be unpopular with some, but I HATE the direction CFB is heading when I hear this sort of nonsense. The unbridled arrogance is ridiculous. The void of competition created by consolidation of talent via money is gross. This is not in the spirit of the O’Bannon NIL case ruling.

For the record, I’m not against the players making money. Not at all. I am 100% against a system with no rules or regulations that is turning CFB into whorehouse football.
Blame the NCAA and the universities presidents. They denied players the right to make money off themselves that the case got brought to the Supreme Court. And now there is nothing anyone can do about it. They created this monster
 
Blame the NCAA and the universities presidents. They denied players the right to make money off themselves that the case got brought to the Supreme Court. And now there is nothing anyone can do about it. They created this monster
I've said as much over the course of my comments in this thread. I don't agree with the "now there's nothing anyone can do about it." I think something can be done and I'm not talking about going back to the way it was. I'm talking about creating a new governing body (NOT the NCAA) to oversee everything. Not that I have much faith it will happen, but that's what I'm hoping for.
 
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Blame the NCAA and the universities presidents. They denied players the right to make money off themselves that the case got brought to the Supreme Court. And now there is nothing anyone can do about it. They created this monster
It's far more than NCAA and University presidents. They may have been the original cause, but now it's selfish politicians and others with their hand in the pot doing whatever they can to make a name for themselves on a hot ticket item like sports, or to improve teams in their states and get monetary transactions for state and other taxes/fees. They don't care about the people involved. They don't care about sound judgements/laws, or policy to protect young athletes from handlers, agents, and every other leech around. They care about money, winning, and notoriety.
 
I've said as much over the course of my comments in this thread. I don't agree with the "now there's nothing anyone can do about it." I think something can be done and I'm not talking about going back to the way it was. I'm talking about creating a new governing body (NOT the NCAA) to oversee everything. Not that I have much faith it will happen, but that's what I'm hoping for.
I’m talking about them limiting or putting a cap on NIL like a lot of people want them to do. Legally they can’t do anything. Creating another governing body still won’t fix the main issue a lot of people have. And that’s a cap on NIL. Only way I see that happening is if they deem players as employees. Which I don’t think happens
 
It's far more than NCAA and University presidents. They may have been the original cause, but now it's selfish politicians and others with their hand in the pot doing whatever they can to make a name for themselves on a hot ticket item like sports, or to improve teams in their states and get monetary transactions for state and other taxes/fees. They don't care about the people involved. They don't care about sound judgements/laws, or policy to protect young athletes from handlers, agents, and every other leech around. They care about money, winning, and notoriety.
I agree. All about money and power
 
This is also why, I suspect, that Miami's recruiting class isn't Top 5 despite all the winning. For the past two years, we have been ahead of the pack when it comes to NIL organization and commitment. Now, everyone else is organized and spending money as well. Not saying we can't have a Top 5 class, but just saying that the recruiting playing field, when it comes to money, is even again.
I heard the same last year around this time. We'll see
 
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That’s fine with me as long as we can do it. Those SEC schools have been doing it for years with no consequences while the NCAA gave us a prostate exam every time they got the chance. Its was fckn ridiculous.
Well, we are participating thru the NIL. This s**t from Barstool is so far out of bounds. There is nothing wrong with paying players, within the confines of the NIL contracts. With this other crap it’s an abortion of any semblance of the NIL, and opens up CFB to the Wild West where the Big Dawgs eat, and unlevel the playing field again.
 
Straight facts...
Let’s keep the NIL, but don’t allow OUTSDE sources of private money, that’s not associated with the NIL Program to corrupt it. Then we are back at square one. The NIL is good keep it. But don’t let these Cucks F**k with it, untethered to any restrictions or consequences and Repercussions.
 
Because of NIL is the ONLY reason Miami & other schools even have an opportunity to sign Elite highly ranked prospects.

Before NIL, that privilege was only reserved for Bama & UGA.

You guys were excited when we landed Francis Mauigoa, Justin Scott, Marquise Lightfoot & kids from this class like Hayden Lowe & Jaboree Antoine right? Well we don't get any of those kids without NIL & the system being the way that it is.

All the flips we're about to land pretty soon, are as a direct result of us having the ability to outbid our competitors. The moment you allow the NCAA to put guardrails on this thing, that will pendulum swing the advantage back in favor of UGA & Bama.

Those teams can't dominate CFB anymore because they can't hoard & steal all the talent from HS & the Portal, that's only possible because NIL is the Wild West. The moment you regulate it, Miami & the rest of CFB is screwed. You can bet the house on that.
What flips? Haven't you been reading these ding dongs saying we're not getting any!
 
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It’s possible to both hate the direction college football is going, generally, and recognize that regulation will likely disfavor Miami, specifically, as long as we remain in the GayCC. Still don’t believe Miami’s bench is deep enough, in the long term, to keep up with the Joneses in a totally unregulated environment. But, for now, it helps us.
 
I’m talking about them limiting or putting a cap on NIL like a lot of people want them to do. Legally they can’t do anything. Creating another governing body still won’t fix the main issue a lot of people have. And that’s a cap on NIL. Only way I see that happening is if they deem players as employees. Which I don’t think happens
You realize that there's a difference between NIL and TV revenue sharing right? NIL was supposed to be for players to be able to earn money via video games, jersey sales, TV ads, etc. You also realize that the schools are not supposed to negotiate directly with players in exchange for commitment right? I'm not naive enough to think that it doesn't happen - it does and the video at the beginning of the thread said as much when Portnoy discussed pitching Underwood.
I am talking about an entirely new system where the players are employees of the schools and there's some oversight. Will that happen? No idea. I dont have crystal balls (pause).

Most people are convoluting many of the issues and confusing terms - revenue sharing vs NIL, paid employees vs independent contractors, salary cap vs revenue sharing limits, NCAA policy of old vs now, etc. I'm not trying to lump you personally into that group, but if we're both being honest, we both probably have had some sort of misunderstandings along the way. Maybe you're an employment lawyer with CBA experience and if so, Te Salud Don Corleone. Here's the part that I think most of the people who are gung ho with NIL lose sight of - there's not an unlimited supply of cash and the current revenue numbers are only as good as today's value. My concern is that in time, the sport devolves into something that just isn't that much fun anymore for the fans. Is that selfish on my part? Yeah, I guess. It's also fair. Part of the fun of being a fan of a team is following guys like X all the way through freshman year to year 4/5 and seeing him progress. It's knowing that we ought to be good at RB next year because of who we have that's returning. Yes, I'm old fashioned in the regard and if you disagree, so be it. It's how I see it. Now pardon me while I take a Geritol and tell these pesky kids to get off my lawn.
 
Interesting points. I agree with some and disagree with others. Biggest pushback is without any regulations, I think in time there will be a return to just several “power” schools - the ones with the richest and most willing alumni. My thought is blow up the NCAA and create a new governing body. Hopefully they wouldn’t be as blatantly corrupt.
Call me a skeptic but I don’t trust any governing body with that much power and ghat much money at stakes to act in the best interest of all 120+ teams. We’ve already seen this movie.

Kids for the last decade have come out on record and said they were paid by Bama. Pictures with cars and jewelry and they were never investigated.

One rat snitched on us while being taken down by the fedz and the NCAA did every thing in its power (and beyond its power) to try and destroy the program.

Let the highest bidders win. Leave it uncapped. Keep everything OUT IN THE OPEN.

That way it is fair and if Bama wants a kid they can pay fair market value.

And not be the beneficiaries of the governing body turning a blind eye to their dealings while sanctioning others.
 
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