Rumor Underwood flip story

I might be in the minority, but I am completely happy that grown adults are making money in a capitalist society in which folks traditionally made billions off their labors under the guise of amateur sports for other rich people.

I'm also stoked that the new system has it where a tiny private school that traditionally never could compete in the "good ole boy wink wink" system now is able to compete.

Underwood to UM north because he got paid. Tip the cap to them.
 
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Call me a skeptic but I don’t trust any governing body with that much power and ghat much money at stakes to act in the best interest of all 120+ teams. We’ve already seen this movie.

Kids for the last decade have come out on record and said they were paid by Bama. Pictures with cars and jewelry and they were never investigated.

One rat snitched on us while being taken down by the fedz and the NCAA did every thing in its power (and beyond its power) to try and destroy the program.

Let the highest bidders win. Leave it uncapped. Keep everything OUT IN THE OPEN.

That way it is fair and if Bama wants a kid they can pay fair market value.

And not be the beneficiaries of the governing body turning a blind eye to their dealings while sanctioning others.
I’m a skeptic too. Nothing wrong with that, assuming it’s tempered with reason.
 
I've said it once and I'll say it again: I will NEVER have a problem with any person capitalizing from their unique talent. We all know why certain people are wringing their hands in regards to NIL. Everyone else getting paid was fine, but as soon as the help starts getting paid, then it's time to opine about the sanctity of collegiate athletics, something that was NEVER pure in the first place. The sport was built on cheating, on exploiting others.
 
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Well, we are participating thru the NIL. This s**t from Barstool is so far out of bounds. There is nothing wrong with paying players, within the confines of the NIL contracts. With this other crap it’s an abortion of any semblance of the NIL, and opens up CFB to the Wild West where the Big Dawgs eat, and unlevel the playing field again.
That’s just it. It has leveled in OUR favor. Miami has money. Now that the rabbit has the gun everyone has a problem with it. Take a drink, smoke a blunt and worry about more important things. There are millions of things in the world worse than college football players making money from NIL or any other source.
 
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If he turns out to be Dan Kendra, Kyle Wright or Ron Pawlus the market will correct itself quickly.

Go Canes!
Dan Kendra does medical sales now…if you saw him and he said “I was the the top recruit in the country and an absolute physical freak” you would spit your drink out and laugh at him.

Dan could have been Tim Tebow but with an arm…although he’d tell you he should have went to Penn State and played LB…but FSU made it tough to say no if you catch my drift.
 
Because of NIL is the ONLY reason Miami & other schools even have an opportunity to sign Elite highly ranked prospects.

Before NIL, that privilege was only reserved for Bama & UGA.

You guys were excited when we landed Francis Mauigoa, Justin Scott, Marquise Lightfoot & kids from this class like Hayden Lowe & Jaboree Antoine right? Well we don't get any of those kids without NIL & the system being the way that it is.

All the flips we're about to land pretty soon, are as a direct result of us having the ability to outbid our competitors. The moment you allow the NCAA to put guardrails on this thing, that will pendulum swing the advantage back in favor of UGA & Bama.

Those teams can't dominate CFB anymore because they can't hoard & steal all the talent from HS & the Portal, that's only possible because NIL is the Wild West. The moment you regulate it, Miami & the rest of CFB is screwed. You can bet the house on that.

All the flips we're about to land pretty soon

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If he turns out to be Dan Kendra, Kyle Wright or Ron Pawlus the market will correct itself quickly.

Go Canes!

I’m not in favor of dropping $ like this on a QB recruit. Spend that money more elsewhere like OL, DL and DB. Almost all of the top teams QBs are transfers. I think it is a huge waste to drop 10mil on an unknown who likely transfers out anyway if you’re not contending right away.
 
What's odd for me is that personally, I'm about as Laissez-Faire as they get. However, like anything, it can go too far. The Sherman Anti-Trust Act happened because of capitalism gone too far. Imagine if Bezos, Buffett and Ellison all went to the same school (or if their wives did) and that school had essentially limitless funds. Now imagine if that school was Oregon which also has Phil Knight as an outspoken alum willing to spend anything to get a natty. Sure there might be a couple other schools that could compete with them, but the pool of competitors shrinks. Maybe natural seection would work its magic and things would sort themselves out fairly. However we're dealing with large amounts of money for influence and those things have a way of consistently not working out fairly and equitably.

Interestingly enough, you mentioned the NFL as a comparison for parity. Good choice. That league is the model of parity in many ways. Why? In large part because of salary caps and CBAs. The franchises essentially police themselves via their appointee Lord Goodell, who answers to the owners. Why doesn't the NFL get rid of their salary restrictions? Competition breeds success right? Pardon the snarky comment; the larger point here is that the cap and rules are there so that no one team has any financial advantage, at least in theory. Prior to NIL, the players were getting paid; it simply was done quietly (usually) while the NCAA looked away from the $EC schools and some others (ahem, Ohio State). I lived through the Pony Express era at SMU. ESPN did a 30 fo 30 on it and I highly recommend you watch it because it outlines how many of the players were getting paid in the 80's. Brian Bosworth wrote a book in the late 80's where he openly talked about players at Oklahoma being given jobs by local companies for the summers where their attendance was ignored. The NCAA picked and chose who they decided to enforce and punish, and who they didn't, which is what eventually led to the consolidation of power in the $EC/B1G.
Eventually the market would correct itself.

If there were 3 teams buying all the players, therefore eliminating competition beyond those three teams, then the market would correct itself by any of the following:

-people would stop watching and the ROI wouldn't be worth the squeeze if you will (if people kept watching even though it's a boring product then that's on the consumer).

- teams outside of those 3 multibillionaire teams would need to adapt to stay competitive or close up shop (if programs close up shop that would also be driven by the market place and the fans would have clearly made their choice).

Overall, let the market decide.

There's no guarantee that any of this money spent on a 18 year old will yield anything. Underwood could very easily be CFB's NFL Jamarcuss Russell.

Let the billionaires spend their money, let the players make their money, but the fans need to be involved as well beyond just posting on a message board.
 
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This is like acting surprised to find out Santa isn't real. How do you think this process has worked before the "light" was turned on. It's actually probably a more even field than it was.

I can't and won't ever get mad about how another person spends money.
 
I'd be terrified if I were Sherrone Moore.

Ppl don't drop that kind of money and not want to have a say in your operation.

They will give him 2 years max to win (maybe even 1 if he gets obliterated by Ohio State bad enough next season).
 
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I wonder if we will see this bleed over into the NFL? And what I mean specifically is this tweet does not shock me at all, I am shocked some think this is news. Days before signing day a billionaire steps up and wants to buy some croots? It has been happening before NIL, they just talk about it now.

Even if they implement the schools paying the kids and a "salary cap" there will still be NIL. If Barstool wants to pay someone they can, but what is stopping it from happening in the NFL to circumvent the salary cap? I have no idea if Portnoy is a Lions fan but lets say he goes out and tells Tyreek Hill or some free agent Barstool will give you a 50 million marketing contract but its contingent on you signing with the lions? That is basically what this is now.
Already happening - just more effective in the NBA big markets vs the NFL. Hence why small market teams such as OKC Thunder never sign the highly coveted free agents in the NBA.

NFL careers are very very short lived and guys generally want to get the largest contract possible for their play on the field….I’ve never been in a postgame NFL locker room but I’ve heard these guys come off the field looking like dudes from the movie Gladiator - last thing they want to do for the next couple days while off (if they’re off) is to go shoot some commercial
 
I'd be terrified if I were Sherrone Moore.

Ppl don't drop that kind of money and not want to have a say in your operation.

They will give him 2 years max to win (maybe even 1 if he gets obliterated by Ohio State bad enough next season).
That part. Same way Indiana felt when they realized Cignetti was the real deal. Even with locking him up, if Michigan comes calling, he gone.
 
Eventually the market would correct itself.

If there were 3 teams buying all the players, therefore eliminating competition beyond those three teams, then the market would correct itself by any of the following:

-people would stop watching and the ROI wouldn't be worth the squeeze if you will (if people kept watching even though it's a boring product then that's on the consumer).

- teams outside of those 3 multibillionaire teams would need to adapt to stay competitive or close up shop (if programs close up shop that would also be driven by the market place and the fans would have clearly made their choice).

Overall, let the market decide.

There's no guarantee that any of this money spent on a 18 year old will yield anything. Underwood could very easily be CFB's NFL Jamarcuss Russell.

Let the billionaires spend their money, let the players make their money, but the fans need to be involved as well beyond just posting on a message board.
I agree with everything other than your last sentence, assuming you’re implying that fans need to contribute to collectives. When being a fan “requires” that I donate money, I’m out. As long as it’s a choice, fine. Some can donate and others not donate. I feel the same about political contributions. People can donate all they want, but it’s not required. Side note - please don’t take this down a political path; I solely referenced it as a comparison.

Here’s my hang up, at some point, the common man/fan goes from disinterest to complete non-participation. When enough of that happens, it dissolves. Why did the NFL pass MLB in popularity? Several reasons but a large contributor was lack of parity in MLB. Think about how many Royal fans you know or Brewers or Reds. How does that compare to Yankee fans? I could go on and on but it’s Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
 
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