True or untrue: Virginia Tech is in better shape than Miami as a program

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I’m not ready to give up on Manny. But I need to see Enos make adjustments to mask our weaknesses, week-to-week improvement at every level on D, and an ability to adjust at the half. Manny did such a great job with the D last two years, shame he hasn’t been able to keep the D churning while spreading his mantra across the team. Time will tell, but looking like banners will fly sooner rather than later.
Agree, it’s bothering me that manny is allowing baker to run the defense this way. It looks nothing like the D we saw over tha past 3 years and i don’t get it. How there using Garvin is borderline criminal. I mean if these are the results of hiring baker, Diaz might as well go back to calling the D and use bakers spot for a real deal ST coach. And don’t even get me started on Enos, the arrogance/stubbornness I’ve already heard from him four games In rivals Mork and fatso! And that’s very concerning.
 
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^^^COULD NOT AGREE WITH THIS MORE.

I've written about this several times at ItsAUThing over the past few weeks.

Two plays away from undefeated—looking light years better than it did last December when Wisconsin pushed lifeless Miami up and down the field.

Win those two games and these same people are screaming about going undefeated and taking out Clemson—despite all the glaring weaknesses that the team still has regarding youth at some positions and a two-deep that is nowhere near contender level. Lose those two last minute on a play or two and it's "Cuban Al Golden" and "stick a fork in this program". The overemotional nature—swinging from "we're done" to "we're back" is embarrassingly short-sighted, over-emotional and immature.

"The New Miami" wasn't some off-season, insta-fix—yet many thought that the attitude could be changed over a few months and expected the Canes to roll the Gators. Instead, it's a long-term culture change that Diaz is working towards—from how these kids will play on the field (in due time) as well as the type of kid he's working to recruit to Miami; the guys like those late nineties players who wanted to be part of the foundation and comeback, living and dying for the Canes—opposed to divas who want to win immediately and run off to Tuscaloosa or Athens so they can plug-and-play for an immediate contender (lots of guys who grew up pulling for Miami but don't have the grit to be part of the rebuild.)

Thankfully Diaz has a better handle on it than the fans—constantly pointing out the strengths and the areas of deficiency, and how they're getting worked on. There can be more good taken from a close loss with a few mistakes than there is a win against a Bethune-Cookman where the team strutted out of that game big-headed like they'd just done something special.

A large part of this fan base has lost their mind; sick of being irrelevant for 15 years, while lumping all that failure on yet another new coach—Miami's FIFTH new head coach in 14 seasons—and judging things game-by-game, or even drive-by-drive. It's asinine. Logic and reason have gone WAY out the window.

Wrote about it here as well, if you're interested—"Early Deep Dive Into The Manny Diaz Era & Meaning Of 'The New Miami'"

Side note; would've loved to see how these nut jobs reacted in 1984 if there was social media when JJ went 8-5 with the defending national champs—including losing the final three in shocking fashion; blowing a 31-0 half-time lead to Maryland, losing to Boston College on Hail Flutie and dropping a shootout to UCLA in the Fiesta Bowl. They'd have burned Hecth down and demanded that Tom Olivadotti take over as head coach, believing he deserved the job over Johnson in the first place, as the DC on Schnelly' staff.

You know how I know you didn't watch the Central Michigan game? Being down 17-3 at UNC is such an improvement?

I got no more use for this guy ^^
 
I hear you but those examples don't really count. The university has been extremely overt about their stance on football since Shalala. They prefer going 7-5 every year while that ACC money keeps rolling in regardless. Blake James is here to stay as long as Miami fans keep telling the school that we're fine with the status quo by staying positive, purchasing season tickets, etc. It's in our power to call for change but if you wanna make an omelette you gotta crack some eggs. "Real Canes fans" are running out of patience. The more casual fan will continue to hold out hope in the fairy tale of being unconditionally supportive until one day, perhaps 74 years from now, Miami might once again make its triumphant return to relevance.


OP-Wait and see crowd is always wrong!!!!

What about jimmy and Butch?

OP-They don’t count!!!!

Then begins meandering, conspiracy theory filled babble about not caring about winning with all the right buzzwords-Shalala, real Canes fans blah, blah, blah.
 
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I respectfully disagree that we should be at "the end of our rope" with Manny Diaz four games into his first season as head coach.

Miami fans should be angry about everything surrounding him and his hiring --- including our 7-5 average record going back 15 years, foregoing the search/interview process when Richt retired and the consecutive lazy hires preceding him. And Diaz did kind of enter Coral Gables as a conquering hero while making promises and saying things that he maybe should have kept private. So in a way, he has himself to blame for guaranteeing the team would perform a certain way (letter sent to the fans when season tickets were mailed) and not backing it up through 4 games. It's a harsh stance to take and I don't think anyone has completely discounted him as someone who might be a successful head coach one day, but he should probably be the head guy at Temple right now.
 
OP-Wait and see crowd is always wrong!!!!

What about jimmy and Butch?

OP-They don’t count!!!!

Then begins meandering, conspiracy theory filled babble about not caring about winning with all the right buzzwords-Shalala, real Canes fans blah, blah, blah.

Even if it's not a conspiracy and the university is actually trying to win -- you think that makes it better lol? We either have a resoundingly incompetent administration with 15 years of horrific decision-making under their belts, with no end in sight, - or - it's real.
 
Miami fans should be angry about everything surrounding him and his hiring --- including our 7-5 average record going back 15 years, foregoing the search/interview process when Richt retired and the consecutive lazy hires preceding him. And Diaz did kind of enter Coral Gables as a conquering hero while making promises and saying things that he maybe should have kept private. So in a way, he has himself to blame for guaranteeing the team would perform a certain way (letter sent to the fans when season tickets were mailed) and not backing it up through 4 games. It's a harsh stance to take and I don't think anyone has completely discounted him as someone who might be a successful head coach one day, but he should probably be the head guy at Temple right now.


You keep saying lazy hire, lazy hire, lazy hire.

You do realize four of the top six teams in the country did the same exact thing Miami just did right? They hired from within?

And a fifth team, Wisconsin, brought Chryst back after he left to coach Pitt.

So does that mean 5 of the top 8 were lazy?
 
You're part of the problem imo. The only hope for this program is a full-fledged revolt. The wait-and-see crowd has been wrong every time so SPARE ME with this attempt at trying to restore order. Cmar is rolling in his grave right now.

You've posted 17 billion times but I don't really pay attention, so is this your shtick? Or you're serious? A full-fledged revolt? What do you suggest, storm the castle? What in the absolute fvck are you talking about? Should we run into the Hecht and not stop until we have Blake James' head on a stake?

If this is your shtick, you got me. You win. If it's not and you're serious, you need a vacation.
 
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Our fanbase is so delusional. At worst, this topic is worth debating. VT is a sneeze away from a coaching change while Miami seems locked into what appears to be an underwhelming Manny Diaz staff.

Two middle tier ACC programs who never see New Years Bowls.
 
You keep saying lazy hire, lazy hire, lazy hire.

You do realize four of the top six teams in the country did the same exact thing Miami just did right? They hired from within?

And a fifth team, Wisconsin, brought Chryst back after he left to coach Pitt.

So does that mean 5 of the top 8 were lazy?

I'm pretty sure we're all aware of what truly separates those programs (with the exception of Wisconsin) from others.
 
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You've posted 17 billion times but I don't really pay attention, so is this your shtick? Or you're serious? A full-fledged revolt? What do you suggest, storm the castle? What in the absolute fvck are you talking about? Should we run into the Hecht and not stop until we have Blake James' head on a stake?

If this is your shtick, you got me. You win. If it's not and you're serious, you need a vacation.

See Michigan and Tennessee for recent examples of a full-fledged revolt. Of course, it won't always work but the decision-making at those places was directly affected by fans literally showing up wielding pitch-forks and torches, screaming and shouting to the point that Tennessee un-hired Schiano and Michgan fired its AD. As we know Miami fans have turned to banners and even then, it was only after losing 58-0 at home where things became bad enough for Miami to get off their *** and terminate Al Golding. Unfortunately for everyone, the guy who flew the Fire Butch banner in 97 ruined the credibility of every Miami fan for eternity.
 
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I respectfully disagree that we should be at "the end of our rope" with Manny Diaz four games into his first season as head coach.
Agreed, I think people are really tired of mediocrity and expect more of the same because the administration is run by morons.
 
Agreed, I think people are really tired of mediocrity and expect more of the same because the administration is run by morons.
For sure. I feel the same way. But that doesnt change the fact its asinine to be calling for Manny's end 4 games into his first season.
 
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For sure. I feel the same way. But that doesnt change the fact its asinine to be calling for Manny's end 4 games into his first season.

This is isn't necessarily what I'm saying. For the record lol.
 
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