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[SolidCane]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

The fact that Saban lost 4 games in a row IS meaninless. He won 12 the next year. Golden didn't lose 4 in row so what does that mean for 2012. Nothin ie meaningless.

I'm talking about actuall results and events from year one and you bring up saban. Sabans situation is complately different from Golden's yet you unknowingly brought his name into this like it helps you. it's doesn't. Next year ypu'll pick a different coach youve already said Golden won't win 12 games. Pretty silly IMO. lol.

You have a serious lack of reading comprehension. According to you, Golden had "question marks" in his first year.

I'm not questioning his ability to coach, due to his first year. Do you not see the difference? God I'm going in circles here.

BTW at least we agree on ONE thing. What Saban won and lost in 2007 is meaningless to how good he actually is.

 

[MiamiNites]

Golden also had 2 commits at the time he started, thanks to Randy. But no, let's gloss over that fact.

So. Those 2 commits happen to be the frosh who made the most impact along with perryman who was coming hereregardless. Golden was suppose to be the this real coach, this big time recruiter yet none of the guys he brought in did anything. Al-Luios jean decommitted from Miami and Golden, a supposed superstar recruiter, couldn't get him back despite db being a need position. that's failure.


Sure saban walked into 9 commits but only 2 did anything (McClain and Vlachos's) the rest didn't do jack so who cares about those guys? They suck.

2 commits at the time of hire is another meaningless, irelevant peice of info. Can you tell me who Patrick Chump is? Chriss Lett? didn't think so.

 

[Chrisarg72]

Golden also had 2 commits at the time he started, thanks to Randy. But no, let's gloss over that fact.

So. Those 2 commits happen to be the frosh who made the most impact along with perryman who was coming hereregardless. Golden was suppose to be the this real coach, this big time recruiter yet none of the guys he brought in did anything. Al-Luios jean decommitted from Miami and Golden, a supposed superstar recruiter, couldn't get him back despite db being a need position. that's failure.


Sure saban walked into 9 commits but only 2 did anything (McClain and Vlachos's) the rest didn't do jack so who cares about those guys? They suck.

2 commits at the time of hire is another meaningless, irelevant peice of info. Can you tell me who Patrick Chump is? Chriss Lett? didn't think so.

He decommited because he couldnt get into the school, he's going to marshall as a non qualifier. Jesus, just because he's a good coach doesnt mean he can wave a magic wand and get around the clearinghouse

 

[AutoCANE]

I'm not questioning his ability to coach, due to his first year. Do you not see the difference? God I'm going in circles here.

This is what happens when you try to have a discussion about Golden's successes. Xavier Shannon jumps in the conversation.

 

[MiamiNites]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

The fact that Saban lost 4 games in a row IS meaninless. He won 12 the next year. Golden didn't lose 4 in row so what does that mean for 2012. Nothin ie meaningless.

I'm talking about actuall results and events from year one and you bring up saban. Sabans situation is complately different from Golden's yet you unknowingly brought his name into this like it helps you. it's doesn't. Next year ypu'll pick a different coach youve already said Golden won't win 12 games. Pretty silly IMO. lol.

You have a serious lack of reading comprehension. According to you, Golden had "question marks" in his first year.

I'm not questioning his ability to coach, due to his first year. Do you not see the difference? God I'm going in circles here.

BTW at least we agree on ONE thing. What Saban won and lost in 2007 is meaningless to how good he actually is.

You're just lost . I said Golden had question marks and gave examples. You assumed Saban had question marks b/c of his record. You've provided not one example form a game to back yur silly claim. You just looked at the records and the loss to ULM and assumed there were question marks when in fact the situations were completely different. Sheer ignorance on your part.

 

[SolidCane]

Golden also had 2 commits at the time he started, thanks to Randy. But no, let's gloss over that fact.

So. Those 2 commits happen to be the frosh who made the most impact along with perryman who was coming hereregardless. Golden was suppose to be the this real coach, this big time recruiter yet none of the guys he brought in did anything. Al-Luios jean decommitted from Miami and Golden, a supposed superstar recruiter, couldn't get him back despite db being a need position. that's failure.


Sure saban walked into 9 commits but only 2 did anything (McClain and Vlachos's) the rest didn't do jack so who cares about those guys? They suck.

2 commits at the time of hire is another meaningless, irelevant peice of info. Can you tell me who Patrick Chump is? Chriss Lett? didn't think so.

He decommited because he couldnt get into the school, he's going to marshall as a non qualifier. Jesus, just because he's a good coach doesnt mean he can wave a magic wand and get around the clearinghouse

According to nites, Saban owns that wand.

 

[SolidCane]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

The fact that Saban lost 4 games in a row IS meaninless. He won 12 the next year. Golden didn't lose 4 in row so what does that mean for 2012. Nothin ie meaningless.

I'm talking about actuall results and events from year one and you bring up saban. Sabans situation is complately different from Golden's yet you unknowingly brought his name into this like it helps you. it's doesn't. Next year ypu'll pick a different coach youve already said Golden won't win 12 games. Pretty silly IMO. lol.

You have a serious lack of reading comprehension. According to you, Golden had "question marks" in his first year.

I'm not questioning his ability to coach, due to his first year. Do you not see the difference? God I'm going in circles here.

BTW at least we agree on ONE thing. What Saban won and lost in 2007 is meaningless to how good he actually is.

You're just lost . I said Golden had question marks and gave examples. You assumed Saban had question marks b/c of his record. You've provided not one example form a game to back yur silly claim. You just looked at the records and the loss to ULM and assumed there were question marks when in fact the situations were completely different. Sheer ignorance on your part.

So wait a minute. Saban had his players in perfect position and matchups is what you're trying to say here? He didn't experiment and mix it up? Then how in the world did he lose four straight games? How does that happen, expecially with Kareem Jackson on the squad?

 

[MiamiNites]

Golden also had 2 commits at the time he started, thanks to Randy. But no, let's gloss over that fact.

So. Those 2 commits happen to be the frosh who made the most impact along with perryman who was coming hereregardless. Golden was suppose to be the this real coach, this big time recruiter yet none of the guys he brought in did anything. Al-Luios jean decommitted from Miami and Golden, a supposed superstar recruiter, couldn't get him back despite db being a need position. that's failure.


Sure saban walked into 9 commits but only 2 did anything (McClain and Vlachos's) the rest didn't do jack so who cares about those guys? They suck.

2 commits at the time of hire is another meaningless, irelevant peice of info. Can you tell me who Patrick Chump is? Chriss Lett? didn't think so.

He decommited because he couldnt get into the school, he's going to marshall as a non qualifier. Jesus, just because he's a good coach doesnt mean he can wave a magic wand and get around the clearinghouse

This guy looks as if he has no idea what's going on.

 

[MiamiNites]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

The fact that Saban lost 4 games in a row IS meaninless. He won 12 the next year. Golden didn't lose 4 in row so what does that mean for 2012. Nothin ie meaningless.

I'm talking about actuall results and events from year one and you bring up saban. Sabans situation is complately different from Golden's yet you unknowingly brought his name into this like it helps you. it's doesn't. Next year ypu'll pick a different coach youve already said Golden won't win 12 games. Pretty silly IMO. lol.

You have a serious lack of reading comprehension. According to you, Golden had "question marks" in his first year.

I'm not questioning his ability to coach, due to his first year. Do you not see the difference? God I'm going in circles here.

BTW at least we agree on ONE thing. What Saban won and lost in 2007 is meaningless to how good he actually is.

You're just lost . I said Golden had question marks and gave examples. You assumed Saban had question marks b/c of his record. You've provided not one example form a game to back yur silly claim. You just looked at the records and the loss to ULM and assumed there were question marks when in fact the situations were completely different. Sheer ignorance on your part.

So wait a minute. Saban had his players in perfect position and matchups is what you're trying to say here? He didn't experiment and mix it up? Then how in the world did he lose four straight games? How does that happen, expecially with Kareem Jackson on the squad?

You're the one who brought up saban so you should be able to answer this. I was talking about Golden and game situations from 2011. name these match ups and situations where players weren't in position since you're the 2007 saban game expert? I'll wait.

 

[SolidCane]

Nah, Nites you said Saban brought in Jackson, while Golden brought in Williams. How is it Saban lost four straight games with Jackson and Golden didn't even lose back to back games with Williams? Thats a huge QUESTION MARK using your flawed logic.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Nights you didnt answer the question. What do you think of this recruiting class?

 

[MiamiNites]

Nights, in your opinion, what results would be acceptable and be considered moving in the right direction next season? Specifically W/L and coaching.

fewer coaching blunders, better defensive game planning/defensive situational play calling, better use of personel, better offensive game planning, (not waiting an entire half to make changes), no over coaching, one of our coordinators in the press box, better mid stream adjustments on both sides of the ball, Golden's abiltiy to bring in impact recruits at need positions.

Interms on w/l...hard to put a number on this soley. teams can improve but still have the same w/l record. How and why you lose games is important. Staff needs to be more consistant. I liked what I saw from fisch vs FSU and then I have no idea what this guy was trying to do vs South Fl. None. Inconsistant. I prolly missed some stuf but that's a start.

 

[MiamiNites]

The only thing that matters is if he can evlauate, recruit the right type of players and most importantly land these kids. Secondly he needs to surround himself with the right people which also seems to be an issue, IMO, at this point....other wise he's just an organized failure that talks a good game. Ultimatley time will tell one way or another.

Year 1 left alot of question marks soemwhat simular to what you saw with shannon, a first time HC.....some of which you don't expect to see from an experinced HC.

LULZ, did Nick Saban leave plenty of "question marks" his first year in Alabama?

Like What? Losing to the Final Ap #1 and #2 teams by 10 points? Saban identifying a problem in the secondary and instead of crying about it he brings in kareem jackson who started as a true and became a first rounder? Meanwhile Golden brings in Mike Williams....wonder where he'll get drafted.

Oh I know...... saban lost to ulm at home (((yawn))) in a game bama domianted but couldn't overcome 4 turnovers (2 fumbles, 2int's almost pic 6) like most other 7-6 teams. It's not like he got out coached and dominated like Miami did vs 2-10 maryland and even with the suspensions Miami still had more all acc guys/talent in the game than maryland did.

Don't compare Golden to Saban. You'll make yourself look silly.

Dude you're trying to hard. How is it silly? How do you know Golden won't be better than Saban? You're a clown. Going by your asinine logic, Coker is a **** of a coach.

LMAO. Like I said, you brought up saban b/c you couldn't comment on the question marks regarding Golden.

 

[MiamiNites]

Nights you didnt answer the question. What do you think of this recruiting class?

Ask me in 2-3 years after they've actually played some games. The only guy i've seen play a full game is duke johnson and he committed to shannon.

 

[MiamiNites]

Nah, Nites you said Saban brought in Jackson, while Golden brought in Williams. How is it Saban lost four straight games with Jackson and Golden didn't even lose back to back games with Williams? Thats a huge QUESTION MARK using your flawed logic.

This entire post is meaningless.

 

[AutoCANE]

Nights you didnt answer the question. What do you think of this recruiting class?

Ask me in 2-3 years after they've actually played some games. The only guy i've seen play a full game is duke johnson and he committed to shannon.

LOL! Duke may have committed while Shannon was our head coach, but he didn't commit to Shannon. He committed to the University of Miami, son.

 

[SolidCane]

The only thing that matters is if he can evlauate, recruit the right type of players and most importantly land these kids. Secondly he needs to surround himself with the right people which also seems to be an issue, IMO, at this point....other wise he's just an organized failure that talks a good game. Ultimatley time will tell one way or another.

Year 1 left alot of question marks soemwhat simular to what you saw with shannon, a first time HC.....some of which you don't expect to see from an experinced HC.

LULZ, did Nick Saban leave plenty of "question marks" his first year in Alabama?

Like What? Losing to the Final Ap #1 and #2 teams by 10 points? Saban identifying a problem in the secondary and instead of crying about it he brings in kareem jackson who started as a true and became a first rounder? Meanwhile Golden brings in Mike Williams....wonder where he'll get drafted.

Oh I know...... saban lost to ulm at home (((yawn))) in a game bama domianted but couldn't overcome 4 turnovers (2 fumbles, 2int's almost pic 6) like most other 7-6 teams. It's not like he got out coached and dominated like Miami did vs 2-10 maryland and even with the suspensions Miami still had more all acc guys/talent in the game than maryland did.

Don't compare Golden to Saban. You'll make yourself look silly.

Dude you're trying to hard. How is it silly? How do you know Golden won't be better than Saban? You're a clown. Going by your asinine logic, Coker is a **** of a coach.

LMAO. Like I said, you brought up saban b/c you couldn't comment on the question marks regarding Golden.

AGAIN, what you're using to gauge a coach's ability is flawed. Which is why we keep going in circles.

Saban was brought up to point out how ridiculously flawed your "question marks" are. A BAROMETER for your argument. Whether Golden is as good as Saban remains to be seen. Any person with sense can see what I'm saying. It's not that difficult.

 

[SolidCane]

Nah, Nites you said Saban brought in Jackson, while Golden brought in Williams. How is it Saban lost four straight games with Jackson and Golden didn't even lose back to back games with Williams? Thats a huge QUESTION MARK using your flawed logic.

This entire post is meaningless.

Now you see how stupid you sound.

 

[Canes525]

Duke committed to Shannon? Shut the **** up nites. He committed to um not to your boy who makes rich kottite look liked a hof coach.

 

[SolidCane]

He guys Belichick went for it on fourth down back at his own 28 yard line against the Colts and didn't make it. I question his coaching ability, it was too risky.


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