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[McGahee2TheHouse]

Miaminights acts light Goldens first choice was mike williams. how long did golden have to recruit?


Nights gonna be nights. Shannon REBUILT MIAMI. Hahahaha

Golden was hired on Dec. 12 2010. Saban was hired on jan 3 2007. Golden had more time. next excuse.

Nights we all know you hate golden. you dont have to keep pointing it out.

I know your daddy got fired and your mad, im also sorry Golden is destroying what your daddy BUILT! Hahahaha.

Shannon couldnt build a house out of legos let alone a football program.

:ibisroflmao:

 

[MiamiNites]

Using YOUR logic, Saban would have just as many "question marks" as Golden coming out of their first year. You're gauging a coach's ability on their first year. That is a HUGE mistake in any sport. The problem lies in what your using to assess their abilities. Unfortunately its not the right one.

Question marks like what? Name some. Do they have anything to do with a LB covering a 5-8 rb in space on the edge with zero help? what about cb's playing back 10-15 and bailing? What about having an inept blocker in on goal line/short yardage situations (chase ford) and RUNNING BEHIND HIM?

Stop copying what I'm saying b/c you can't provide any examples.

 

[AutoCANE]

Using YOUR logic, Saban would have just as many "question marks" as Golden coming out of their first year. You're gauging a coach's ability on their first year. That is a HUGE mistake in any sport. The problem lies in what your using to assess their abilities. Unfortunately its not the right one.

Question marks like what? Name some. Do they have anything to do with a LB covering a 5-8 rb in space on the edge with zero help? what about cb's playing back 10-15 and bailing? What about having an inept blocker in on goal line/short yardage situations (chase ford) and RUNNING BEHIND HIM?

Stop copying what I'm saying b/c you can't provide any examples.

What part of those examples are on Golden? When did he fire Fisch and MDO and start calling the offense and defense?

 

[DMoney]

Let's cool it with the callouts, fellas. If you disagree just respond to what he's saying, don't go after the name.

 

[SolidCane]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

 

[Larry]

Miaminights acts light Goldens first choice was mike williams. how long did golden have to recruit?


Nights gonna be nights. Shannon REBUILT MIAMI. Hahahaha

Golden was hired on Dec. 12 2010. Saban was hired on jan 3 2007. Golden had more time. next excuse.

Golden had a "week" on Saban...A week after Golden was hired, the NCAA Dead Period hit.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Why don't you explain to us again how you think Randy rebuilt the Miami Hurricanes again..

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Good points solid.

 

[MiamiNites]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

 

[SolidCane]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Like people have said before, no one is saying golden is saban. People are just saying you cant judge based on a coaches first year

 

[MiamiNites]

Miaminights acts light Goldens first choice was mike williams. how long did golden have to recruit?


Nights gonna be nights. Shannon REBUILT MIAMI. Hahahaha

Golden was hired on Dec. 12 2010. Saban was hired on jan 3 2007. Golden had more time. next excuse.

Golden had a "week" on Saban...A week after Golden was hired, the NCAA Dead Period hit.

Golden had 20+ days more than Golden to evlauate, identify, orginize etc. Dead period doesn't mean coaches just quit all things recruiting related. Golden had more time to recruit plain and simple and the best he could do at a need position is bring in Mike Williams. Saban brought in Kareem jackson in less time.

 

[MiamiNites]

Like people have said before, no one is saying golden is saban. People are just saying you cant judge based on a coaches first year

Who's judged him on his first year? I''m just pointing out things i saw in year one. If you can't comment on them then reamin silent. If I hated golden i'd say he needs to be fired asap.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Golden also had 2 commits at the time he started, thanks to Randy. But no, let's gloss over that fact.

 

[01rodric]

I can't believe the Golden criticizers actually think that Golden supporters are saying he is Nick Saban. They have some seriously complex reading comprehension deficiencies when they resort to that nonsensical garbage.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Like people have said before, no one is saying golden is saban. People are just saying you cant judge based on a coaches first year

Who's judged him on his first year? I''m just pointing out things i saw in year one. If you can't comment on them then reamin silent. If I hated golden i'd say he needs to be fired asap.

I have even agreed before that mistakes were made in year one. But the difference is i see how bad the players were that golden inherited. You believe golden had decent talent and thats not the case.

What do you think of this recruiting class?

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

LOL Nites tries so hard, I love it.


Wait 5 minutes and someone named TeamSports will login and agree with every single of Nites replies

Or playswithfreshman will be here to agree with it all. Like people have said before, no one is saying golden is saban. People are just saying you cant judge based on a coaches first year

Color me shocked if that clown PLAYTHEFRESHMEN actually went to UM and graduated as claims.

I can't believe the Golden criticizers actually think that Golden supporters are saying he is Nick Saban. They have some seriously complex reading comprehension deficiencies when they resort to that nonsensical garbage.

Yea man its amazing.

 

[MiamiNites]

Did we lose four straight games this year? In fact did we lose any back to back games this year?

I'm sure plenty of Saban's boys were out of position, mismatched, and just plain incompetent when they were getting scored on to lose FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES. This is funny.

Since Saban is a great coach, I mean how do you lose your final four regular season games if your schemes are so great. Care to take a guess at why?

Miami didn't lose 4 straight games. meaningless. They won 5 total against div 1 schools 2 wins of which came vs interim coaches. If saban were the coach here the esults would have been different IMO.

BTW, what's your prediction for wins in 2012? Saban won 12 his second year. I assume you think Golden will win 12....no? lol

Yeah, you're right, loses are meaningless.

I seriously doubt Golden would have 12 wins. Again YOU'RE the one gauging coaches by their first year, not me. YOU said Golden had "question marks". I merely pointed out that your "question marks" are flawed and I used Saban a barometer. But carry on with your accertions. I guess we'll know who's right in several years.

The fact that Saban lost 4 games in a row IS meaninless. He won 12 the next year. Golden didn't lose 4 in row so what does that mean for 2012. Nothin ie meaningless.

I'm talking about actuall results and events from year one and you bring up saban. Sabans situation is complately different from Golden's yet you unknowingly brought his name into this like it helps you. it's doesn't. Next year ypu'll pick a different coach youve already said Golden won't win 12 games. Pretty silly IMO. lol.

 

[jakeman1]

Miaminights acts light Goldens first choice was mike williams. how long did golden have to recruit?


Nights gonna be nights. Shannon REBUILT MIAMI. Hahahaha

Golden was hired on Dec. 12 2010. Saban was hired on jan 3 2007. Golden had more time. next excuse.

You see this statement here just shows how you continue to perpecuate flawed logic.

If I remember correctly, Miami had three commits at the time Golden was hired and there were no kids scheduled for official visits...none. Shula couldn't coach, but he could recruit, so he left Saban with at least something to work with. Plus, Saban has a track record to fall back on because he has been successful.

• 1995–1997 – Beginning in 1995, Saban moderately improved MSU's fortunes, taking the Spartans to minor bowl games (all of which they lost by double-digit margins) in each of his first three seasons. From 1995 to 1997, Michigan State finished 6-5-1, 6-6, and 7-5. In comparison, MSU had finished 5–6, 6–6 and 5–6 (prior to NCAA forfeits) in 1992–1994.

• 1998 – On November 7, 1998, the Spartans upset the #1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. However, even after the upset and an early-season rout of then-highly-ranked Notre Dame the Spartans finished 6–6, including three last-minute losses featuring turnovers, defensive lapses, and special-teams misplays, and failed to earn a bowl invitation.

• 1999 – Saban led the Spartans to a 9–2 season that included wins over Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. However, the two losses were routs at the hands of Purdue and Wisconsin. Following the final regular-season game against Penn State, Saban abruptly resigned to accept the head coaching position with LSU. Saban's assistant head coach and successor, Bobby Williams, then coached MSU to a Citrus Bowl victory over Florida, giving the Spartans an overall record of 10–2 for the 1999 season. It would be the best season in terms of wins for the Spartans since 1965, and it would see the Spartans reach their highest ranking since the 1966 team.[SUP][14][/SUP] Future former NFL Head Coach Josh McDaniels served as a Graduate Assistant on Saban's 1999 coaching staff.

[h=3][edit]LSU[/h]In November 1999, LSU named Nick Saban their 31st head football coach.[SUP][15][/SUP]

• 2000 – In 2000, the Tigers went 8–4 and won the Peach Bowl. The season was somewhat marred by several lopsided losses, including a 34–17 loss to the Auburn Tigers, a 13–10 loss to the UAB Blazers, and a 41–9 loss to the Florida Gators.

• 2001 – Saban led LSU to a 10–3 record, including an SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory. After a loss to the Ole Miss Rebels, the Tigers finished the year with six straight wins, including a win over #2 Tennessee in the 2001 SEC Championship Game, and a 47–34 win over Illinois in the 2002 Sugar Bowl. It was the first outright SEC championship for LSU since 1986, and the first time the Tigers had won the Sugar Bowl since 1968.

• 2002 – The season opened with high expectations, but a 26–8 loss at the hands of Virginia Tech raised serious questions about their outlook. However, the Tigers would rebound to win their next six straight, but after a mid-season injury to quarterback Matt Mauck, LSU lost four of their last six games to close the season, including a 35–20 loss to Texas in the Cotton Bowl Classic, and finished 8–5.

• 2003 – The Tigers started this season with five wins, including a 17–10 victory in Tiger Stadium over the defending SEC champion, and then undefeated, Georgia Bulldogs. They lost the following week to Florida, 19–7. After the loss to Florida, LSU did not lose again in the regular season and ended their regular season with a win over the Arkansas Razorbacks to win the SEC West. After winning the SEC West, the Tigers defeated the Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC Championship Game in Atlanta. They were ranked #2 in the BCS standings and advanced to play the #1 Oklahoma Sooners in the Sugar Bowl, which was the host of the BCS Championship Game in 2003. The Tigers won the game 21–14. By virtue of winning this game, LSU finished first in the USA Today Coaches Poll and became national champions for only the second time in school history, and for the first time since Paul Dietzel and Billy Cannon led the Tigers to the 1958 National Championship.

• 2004 – LSU finished the season 9–3, after losing to the Iowa Hawkeyes in the Capital One Bowl 30–25 on a final play touchdown pass. Other losses that season were on the road at Auburn 10-9, and a loss on the road to Georgia 45-16. At the end of the 2004 season, Saban left LSU to coach the Miami Dolphins.

Some of it's obviously very good, some of it is definitely not so good. He's been the head coach of two different SEC teams that have lost to ULM and UAB.

Even after the first year at Alabama..."Alabama suffered its first defeat in a 31–20 loss to the SEC Eastern Division Champion Florida Gators (who later won the 2008 BCS Championship), and closed out the season with a 31–17 loss to Utah in the Sugar Bowl[SUP][23][/SUP] to finish the season at 12–2. For his efforts during the season, Saban received several Coach of the Year awards." So starts winning, and lost to Florida, which is understandable, but then lost to Utah? No way that should happen.
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[McGahee2TheHouse]

Nights, in your opinion, what results would be acceptable and be considered moving in the right direction next season? Specifically W/L and coaching.