The Miami Job

[chicanego]

Too bad it's not 1999 when D Money's post would have been accurate. In 2014, not so much.

This is another line that people parrot without facts.

Miami's job is better now than it was in 1999. Better facilities. Better academics to sell to recruits. A more proven NFL track record.

Most importantly, the talent gap between South Florida and the rest of the country gets wider every single year. Look at the USA Today high school rankings. St. Thomas pulverized last year's high school national champion, and they weren't even a top 5 team down here. South Florida used to only produce skill guys and front seven players. Now it's producing everything, including five-star quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

People act like other major programs didn't start recruiting South Florida until 2000. The big schools have always recruited South Florida. The difference is that Schnelly, JJ and Butch took back the area, with the same attendance and budget issues. It takes a great coach. This job deserves a great coach.

So, the job is so attractive that the last two times the position was open the best candidates we could land were Randy Shannon and Al Golden? I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to be a **** but I just don't think the outside world views the job the same way. The Miami job comes with the NFL pressure of winning championships but a mid level college salary, poor fan support and the b.s. that comes along with south Florida recruiting. Why would any established/top level coach sign up for that?

What outside world are you referring to? Fans, people like us? Fans around College football love to bash Miami. Weak crowds, poor alumni support in some ****hole stadium. Makes for an easy target.

In reality, college football coaches often seek the advice of peers (not fans) when deciding whether or not to accept a gig, and I guarantee you that the majority of coaches who have served at Miami (in whatever capacity) would advocate a position here. It has its limitations, but nowhere do you have access to the most fertile, rich, and concentrated recruiting ground in all of the game a stones throw away.

I see so many ****tards talk about this program like it's Western Kentucky. Bobby Petrino would be on the first jet to Miami to catch an interview if Blake James gives him a call

I agree that "established" coach like Saban would not consider an interview here, but we have never been in the position to interview coaches like that. That being said, a number of very good coaches would not view this job as a "bad job." Certainly coaches of higher caliber than Al Golden.

 

[Miami82]

This D$ cat just gets it. Finally K9_scheme_cane gets it as well.

 

[DutchieFlair]

Bobby Petrino would walk to Miami to get an interview. Only an idiot would think that he'd rather stay at WKU if he was offered the Miami gig. FOH

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Bobby Petrino would walk to Miami to get an interview. Only an idiot would think that he'd rather stay at WKU if he was offered the Miami gig. FOH

Bobby Petrino isn't getting an interview here or at any other major program for a while. Dude is as unethical as they come.

 

[TommyCanes]

Bobby Petrino would walk to Miami to get an interview. Only an idiot would think that he'd rather stay at WKU if he was offered the Miami gig. FOH

He hasn't got an offer from any school - so either every other AD is a complete ******, or there is legitimate baggage that no one wants to touch.

 

[DutchieFlair]

Only reason Petrino hasn't gotten an offer IMHO is because they need him to "cool off" and be less radioactive. IMHO he'll get a job. Not saying at Miami but he's too good of a coach not to get a gig. With that said there are plenty great X and O's guys out there. Not sure the AD and Pres at Miami are smart enough or committed enough to winning to go find them and bring them here.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Only reason Petrino hasn't gotten an offer IMHO is because they need him to "cool off" and be less radioactive. IMHO he'll get a job. Not saying at Miami but he's too good of a coach not to get a gig. With that said there are plenty great X and O's guys out there. Not sure the AD and Pres at Miami are smart enough or committed enough to winning to go find them and bring them here.

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Too bad it's not 1999 when D Money's post would have been accurate. In 2014, not so much.

This is another line that people parrot without facts.

Miami's job is better now than it was in 1999. Better facilities. Better academics to sell to recruits. A more proven NFL track record.

Most importantly, the talent gap between South Florida and the rest of the country gets wider every single year. Look at the USA Today high school rankings. St. Thomas pulverized last year's high school national champion, and they weren't even a top 5 team down here. South Florida used to only produce skill guys and front seven players. Now it's producing everything, including five-star quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

People act like other major programs didn't start recruiting South Florida until 2000. The big schools have always recruited South Florida. The difference is that Schnelly, JJ and Butch took back the area, with the same attendance and budget issues. It takes a great coach. This job deserves a great coach.

So, the job is so attractive that the last two times the position was open the best candidates we could land were Randy Shannon and Al Golden? I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to be a **** but I just don't think the outside world views the job the same way. The Miami job comes with the NFL pressure of winning championships but a mid level college salary, poor fan support and the b.s. that comes along with south Florida recruiting. Why would any established/top level coach sign up for that?

They screwed the pooch hiring Randy. Regardless of being a successful DC at Miami, you don't elevate a guy from a failed staff. If he was the coach in waiting and they forced Larry to resign, then that's one thing. Randy really was set up for failure. Very good coordinator but he is not head coaching timber. Quite honestly, Miami didn't show a lot of patience in 2007. The timing was not right in 2010 so Miami chose their best option available.

If Golden leaves, then there are quite a few options because you have a bunch former Miami assistants, all unemployed and all wanting HC jobs and all interested in coming back to Miami. Think about this. Chud, Schiano, Ed O., even Butch. I wouldn't be shocked with Winston Moss or Curtis Johnson asked to interview. Now throw in Petrino who wants out of purgatory and you have some options.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

I WANT PETE CARROLL

Great post....why wouldn't he want to come here and coach with his son. I could definitely see this happening.

Idiot.

 

[Southcane]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

The way he left the NFL was a disgrace!...

 

[JHallCanes]

Didn't read the whole thread but D$ crushed this one.

And I'm with Able 100%. IDGAF if Petrino has "baggage" or will bolt in two years, he would do magic with this team next year. We have the addition by subtraction factor, the soph-junior jump with some major players.....it's a **** good base for a new job.

That said I just don't think we will consider him unfortunately.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Too bad it's not 1999 when D Money's post would have been accurate. In 2014, not so much.

This is another line that people parrot without facts.

Miami's job is better now than it was in 1999. Better facilities. Better academics to sell to recruits. A more proven NFL track record.

Most importantly, the talent gap between South Florida and the rest of the country gets wider every single year. Look at the USA Today high school rankings. St. Thomas pulverized last year's high school national champion, and they weren't even a top 5 team down here. South Florida used to only produce skill guys and front seven players. Now it's producing everything, including five-star quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

People act like other major programs didn't start recruiting South Florida until 2000. The big schools have always recruited South Florida. The difference is that Schnelly, JJ and Butch took back the area, with the same attendance and budget issues. It takes a great coach. This job deserves a great coach.

So, the job is so attractive that the last two times the position was open the best candidates we could land were Randy Shannon and Al Golden? I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to be a **** but I just don't think the outside world views the job the same way. The Miami job comes with the NFL pressure of winning championships but a mid level college salary, poor fan support and the b.s. that comes along with south Florida recruiting. Why would any established/top level coach sign up for that?

They screwed the pooch hiring Randy. Regardless of being a successful DC at Miami, you don't elevate a guy from a failed staff. If he was the coach in waiting and they forced Larry to resign, then that's one thing. Randy really was set up for failure. Very good coordinator but he is not head coaching timber. Quite honestly, Miami didn't show a lot of patience in 2007. The timing was not right in 2010 so Miami chose their best option available.

If Golden leaves, then there are quite a few options because you have a bunch former Miami assistants, all unemployed and all wanting HC jobs and all interested in coming back to Miami. Think about this. Chud, Schiano, Ed O., even Butch. I wouldn't be shocked with Winston Moss or Curtis Johnson asked to interview. Now throw in Petrino who wants out of purgatory and you have some options.

I always get a kick out of the "you don't hire someone from a failed staff" routine. Very few people from "failed staffs" have won an NC, played for two in a row, have received national accolades as DC of the year, etc, etc. Let's not pretend that Shannon's hire would be like promoting D'Onofrio to HC.

In hindsight, it's easy to say that Shannon wasn't ready, is a lifetime coordinator, etc. But at the time, he was one of the hottest young names in coaching. And, perhaps even more importantly, he came with a cheap pricetag, at a time when UM was paying off Coker, Clark, and Labati.

That said, I agree with your premise that we have many more decent options now.

 

[Miami82]

Too bad it's not 1999 when D Money's post would have been accurate. In 2014, not so much.

This is another line that people parrot without facts.

Miami's job is better now than it was in 1999. Better facilities. Better academics to sell to recruits. A more proven NFL track record.

Most importantly, the talent gap between South Florida and the rest of the country gets wider every single year. Look at the USA Today high school rankings. St. Thomas pulverized last year's high school national champion, and they weren't even a top 5 team down here. South Florida used to only produce skill guys and front seven players. Now it's producing everything, including five-star quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

People act like other major programs didn't start recruiting South Florida until 2000. The big schools have always recruited South Florida. The difference is that Schnelly, JJ and Butch took back the area, with the same attendance and budget issues. It takes a great coach. This job deserves a great coach.

So, the job is so attractive that the last two times the position was open the best candidates we could land were Randy Shannon and Al Golden? I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to be a **** but I just don't think the outside world views the job the same way. The Miami job comes with the NFL pressure of winning championships but a mid level college salary, poor fan support and the b.s. that comes along with south Florida recruiting. Why would any established/top level coach sign up for that?

They screwed the pooch hiring Randy. Regardless of being a successful DC at Miami, you don't elevate a guy from a failed staff. If he was the coach in waiting and they forced Larry to resign, then that's one thing. Randy really was set up for failure. Very good coordinator but he is not head coaching timber. Quite honestly, Miami didn't show a lot of patience in 2007. The timing was not right in 2010 so Miami chose their best option available.

If Golden leaves, then there are quite a few options because you have a bunch former Miami assistants, all unemployed and all wanting HC jobs and all interested in coming back to Miami. Think about this. Chud, Schiano, Ed O., even Butch. I wouldn't be shocked with Winston Moss or Curtis Johnson asked to interview. Now throw in Petrino who wants out of purgatory and you have some options.

+1 and the obvious ability to hire a proven X's & O's coach which golden isn't.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

He's never been in a job for more than 3 years.

That wasn't his first time going back and forth between the NFL and college. He was OC at Louisville for 98, went to the Jacksonville Jags as QB coach for 99-00, got a promotion to the Jags OC in 01, and then returned to the college game as an OC for Auburn in 02.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

The way he left the NFL was a disgrace!...

So he bailed on a 3-10 team 3 games early. I give zero *****. An SEC job opened up, and it wasn't going to be available for 3 weeks.

Besides, he thought he was going to be coaching Michael Vick, but he got sent to the Clink.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

He's never been in a job for more than 3 years.

That wasn't his first time going back and forth between the NFL and college. He was OC at Louisville for 98, went to the Jacksonville Jags as QB coach for 99-00, got a promotion to the Jags OC in 01, and then returned to the college game as an OC for Auburn in 02.

He was at Louisville and Arkansas for 4 years each.

I couldn't care less about his going from Louisville to Jacksonville to Auburn. That isn't indicative of anything untoward.

 

[JHallCanes]

Clappy
Shantard
Goldens


Y'all some begging choosing mother****ers

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Petrino's entire job history is radioactive. Dude is a consummate job hopper, and has continually exhibited poor judgement and no ability to work ethically.

That's a lot for any potential employer to overlook.

How exactly is he a job-hopper?

He went from college to the NFL, didn't like it, and went back.

He's never been in a job for more than 3 years.

That wasn't his first time going back and forth between the NFL and college. He was OC at Louisville for 98, went to the Jacksonville Jags as QB coach for 99-00, got a promotion to the Jags OC in 01, and then returned to the college game as an OC for Auburn in 02.

He was at Louisville and Arkansas for 4 years each.

I couldn't care less about his going from Louisville to Jacksonville to Auburn. That isn't indicative of anything untoward.

Of course you could care less. You're a fan who wants to win. You're not the one in charge of potentially hiring someone who has a shady employment record, left a previous employer in the lurch, and gave his mistress a job in the athletic department while at Arky. Most potential employers take ethics pretty seriously...you obviously give zero *****.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Clappy
Shantard
Goldens


Y'all some begging choosing mother****ers

Can't believe people don't want an elite coach like Petrino.