Tackle recruiting

AKA Mario and Maribal are missing on many OT targets so the narrative is now dudes are scared of depth

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Just when I think we can’t get less intelligent (note I did not say dumb), CIS proves me wrong yet again.
Never change. It would be a boring world if this did not exist.
 
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Interesting; so in the Mega thread we’re a Big Brand in which the B1G & SEC will fight it out over us, but in the recruiting world, we’re not enough of a big time program where our coaches can’t convince kids along The OL to come in and compete?

See here’s my problem w/ conjecture; there’s nothing tangible about it. U hit the nail on the head in ur 6/11 Bank update, one that I’ve echoed well before the ‘24 class rolled around: The honeymoon period is over, the first yr bump is over; now top kids are going to be in wait & see mode after a disastrous 1st yr.

So no, if imma keep it 💯, I don’t think two guys in Mauigoa & Okunlola r scaring off top tackles. There is literally nothing in this room that’s scaring off anyone. Right now, the biggest selling point is we’re at ground zero & NOTHING is set in stone. Right now the biggest selling point is look at the guys I’ve (Mario/Alex) recruited, helped developed & see where they got drafted.

Imo, there’s few times during a recruiting cycle where I’m completely out of the loop, then there’s other times I’m very connected b/c I may have a homie or two who are deemed blue chips, & blue chips tend to know each other directly or via 6 degrees of separation. This happens to be one of these cycles; so while Samson & Francis appear to be the driving force, I can unequivocally tell u & the rest of this board that the 5-7 record & how God awful we were is the biggest elephant in the room, & many (not all) across all positions r waiting & seeing.

To me, to continue to parrot two guys is low hanging fruit vs. the real crux.
Explain the DL traction
 
Interesting; so in the Mega thread we’re a Big Brand in which the B1G & SEC will fight it out over us, but in the recruiting world, we’re not enough of a big time program where our coaches can’t convince kids along The OL to come in and compete?

See here’s my problem w/ conjecture; there’s nothing tangible about it. U hit the nail on the head in ur 6/11 Bank update, one that I’ve echoed well before the ‘24 class rolled around: The honeymoon period is over, the first yr bump is over; now top kids are going to be in wait & see mode after a disastrous 1st yr.

So no, if imma keep it 💯, I don’t think two guys in Mauigoa & Okunlola r scaring off top tackles. There is literally nothing in this room that’s scaring off anyone. Right now, the biggest selling point is we’re at ground zero & NOTHING is set in stone. Right now the biggest selling point is look at the guys I’ve (Mario/Alex) recruited, helped developed & see where they got drafted.

Imo, there’s few times during a recruiting cycle where I’m completely out of the loop, then there’s other times I’m very connected b/c I may have a homie or two who are deemed blue chips, & blue chips tend to know each other directly or via 6 degrees of separation. This happens to be one of these cycles; so while Samson & Francis appear to be the driving force, I can unequivocally tell u & the rest of this board that the 5-7 record & how God awful we were is the biggest elephant in the room, & many (not all) across all positions r waiting & seeing.

To me, to continue to parrot two guys is low hanging fruit vs. the real crux.
FOLLOW THE MONEY
We are not investing NIL into Oline this year like we did last year. This year it’s Dline. Next year I bet it will be a big time QB
Gibson will eat a big chunk of the budget if we get him.
Its all about the money.

IMO there are no great recruiters. There are lots of good recruiters who mistakenly get labeled as great or terrible depending on much money they have at their disposal. You think Hartline was great before OSU paid for all those receivers?
You think Trob won people over with his personality?

MONEY, MONEY AND MONEY has always run college sports.
You think John Wooden was great? No, he was very good and Sam ______ bought John the players he needed to win.
Duke bought players for Coach K

I can give you a million examples of how good became great or terrible depending on the money behind them.

So there is no mystery to why we aren’t recruting 5 star tackles. We are allocating funds in different places this year.
 
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Interesting; so in the Mega thread we’re a Big Brand in which the B1G & SEC will fight it out over us, but in the recruiting world, we’re not enough of a big time program where our coaches can’t convince kids along The OL to come in and compete?

See here’s my problem w/ conjecture; there’s nothing tangible about it. U hit the nail on the head in ur 6/11 Bank update, one that I’ve echoed well before the ‘24 class rolled around: The honeymoon period is over, the first yr bump is over; now top kids are going to be in wait & see mode after a disastrous 1st yr.

So no, if imma keep it 💯, I don’t think two guys in Mauigoa & Okunlola r scaring off top tackles. There is literally nothing in this room that’s scaring off anyone. Right now, the biggest selling point is we’re at ground zero & NOTHING is set in stone. Right now the biggest selling point is look at the guys I’ve (Mario/Alex) recruited, helped developed & see where they got drafted.

Imo, there’s few times during a recruiting cycle where I’m completely out of the loop, then there’s other times I’m very connected b/c I may have a homie or two who are deemed blue chips, & blue chips tend to know each other directly or via 6 degrees of separation. This happens to be one of these cycles; so while Samson & Francis appear to be the driving force, I can unequivocally tell u & the rest of this board that the 5-7 record & how God awful we were is the biggest elephant in the room, & many (not all) across all positions r waiting & seeing.

To me, to continue to parrot two guys is low hanging fruit vs. the real crux.
People keep telling me Jason Taylor is a great recruiter.

Land the class, then I'll agree.
 
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He is not a great recruiter. He maybe a good recruiter but he’s recruiting with a few million in his pocket.
Mirabal didn’t go from great to terrible in one season. But he did go from a big NIL account to a small NIL account.
That's far more along the lines of my thinking.

I call it The Coley Theorem.
 
2022 - #10, 11, 32, 57 OL
2023 - #7, 21, 51 OL
Thought u meant top 50 overall players. Most of those players are developmental players, so not sure why u putting them as a flex. Those 247 man do not know more about OL than Cristobal and Mirabal. Ill take the HC who recruited and coached the best OL Bama had and then had elite players want to go to Oregon. If he say man 247 rate as 1000 on the OL is good enough, then he good enough for me.
 
MONEY. But apparently no one on CIS thinks money motivates 18 year olds. This entire conversation is absurd.
I wish @DMoney had not even given a reason because it looks like he‘s making an excuse when he is not. And now all these fools are hung up on the “excuse”.
Our OL is fine, the players we bring in there will be fine. These people simply want to flex in recruiting, simple as. Thats why they on here crying.
 
Interesting; so in the Mega thread we’re a Big Brand in which the B1G & SEC will fight it out over us, but in the recruiting world, we’re not enough of a big time program where our coaches can’t convince kids along The OL to come in and compete?

See here’s my problem w/ conjecture; there’s nothing tangible about it. U hit the nail on the head in ur 6/11 Bank update, one that I’ve echoed well before the ‘24 class rolled around: The honeymoon period is over, the first yr bump is over; now top kids are going to be in wait & see mode after a disastrous 1st yr.

So no, if imma keep it 💯, I don’t think two guys in Mauigoa & Okunlola r scaring off top tackles. There is literally nothing in this room that’s scaring off anyone. Right now, the biggest selling point is we’re at ground zero & NOTHING is set in stone. Right now the biggest selling point is look at the guys I’ve (Mario/Alex) recruited, helped developed & see where they got drafted.

Imo, there’s few times during a recruiting cycle where I’m completely out of the loop, then there’s other times I’m very connected b/c I may have a homie or two who are deemed blue chips, & blue chips tend to know each other directly or via 6 degrees of separation. This happens to be one of these cycles; so while Samson & Francis appear to be the driving force, I can unequivocally tell u & the rest of this board that the 5-7 record & how God awful we were is the biggest elephant in the room, & many (not all) across all positions r waiting & seeing.

To me, to continue to parrot two guys is low hanging fruit vs. the real crux.


I agree the 2 tackles scaring off dudes is an excuse. If you’re a good recruiter, you continue to create competition to make those 2 better and keep building.
 
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Thought u meant top 50 overall players. Most of those players are developmental players, so not sure why u putting them as a flex. Those 247 man do not know more about OL than Cristobal and Mirabal. Ill take the HC who recruited and coached the best OL Bama had and then had elite players want to go to Oregon. If he say man 247 rate as 1000 on the OL is good enough, then he good enough for me.
Here we go with ”does x know more than certain coach(s)“ line.
 
Interesting; so in the Mega thread we’re a Big Brand in which the B1G & SEC will fight it out over us, but in the recruiting world, we’re not enough of a big time program where our coaches can’t convince kids along The OL to come in and compete?

See here’s my problem w/ conjecture; there’s nothing tangible about it. U hit the nail on the head in ur 6/11 Bank update, one that I’ve echoed well before the ‘24 class rolled around: The honeymoon period is over, the first yr bump is over; now top kids are going to be in wait & see mode after a disastrous 1st yr.

So no, if imma keep it 💯, I don’t think two guys in Mauigoa & Okunlola r scaring off top tackles. There is literally nothing in this room that’s scaring off anyone. Right now, the biggest selling point is we’re at ground zero & NOTHING is set in stone. Right now the biggest selling point is look at the guys I’ve (Mario/Alex) recruited, helped developed & see where they got drafted.

Imo, there’s few times during a recruiting cycle where I’m completely out of the loop, then there’s other times I’m very connected b/c I may have a homie or two who are deemed blue chips, & blue chips tend to know each other directly or via 6 degrees of separation. This happens to be one of these cycles; so while Samson & Francis appear to be the driving force, I can unequivocally tell u & the rest of this board that the 5-7 record & how God awful we were is the biggest elephant in the room, & many (not all) across all positions r waiting & seeing.

To me, to continue to parrot two guys is low hanging fruit vs. the real crux.
All factual information here
 
Here we go with ”does x know more than certain coach(s)“ line.
Yeah am gonna give you that line when it comes to OL. Its not a position where man just looking at who fast and and who can catch etc. Alot of the players who aren't even rated will become the best, much more than other positions. So yes i will defer to man who done it for years, over you 7 days and twice on saturdays.
 
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I can't believe y'all are really telling me these recruits be lying when they say dawgs want to play with dawgs and the best want to play with the best smh. **** teenagers!!
 
I guess we'll never be able to build and stack chips if 2 five stars can scare other kids from competing because we're not a big enough program just yet
Unfortunately we are stuck in that group of not big enough programs like Georgia, Texas, Michigan and Clemson. Teams that also were not able to stack chips following great hauls the prior year.
 
@DMoney you have explained this multiple times in multiple threads, everyone hear what you saying. If man refuse to understand thats on them. Morever, why are people here acting like the word developmental is such a dirty word? How many of the best OL were exactly that?

I know why, because its gonna hurt our class rank average, we got 2 many 3 stars yada yada. Some of the best players on the roster in 2 to 3 years are gonna be players people are dogging now. But who wants to wait when we need instant gratification to go brag on the lizard fanbase.

L-O-L

U know what makes me crack up on CIS? It’s the bipolar nature of comments like this.

One minute it’s “we need to stack chips.” The next minute it’s “CIS is star whores.” The next minute it’s “UGA & Bama has all the talent.” The next minute it’s “U can’t trust 247 rankings.” The next minute it’s “We don’t have enough talent.” The next minute it’s “These 3-stars are all beast, I trust the coach’s evaluations.” The next minute it’s “how can we compete w teams like Duke, when we don’t have enough talent?”

By far, this is what I love about fans; the irrational, change w the wind, nature. No one, lemme not speak for the board, I’m not crapping on any recruit who signs here; what I’m cramping on is the narratives of why blue chips spurn us vs. keeping it 💯.
 
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