Tackle recruiting

[The U is back to work]

Sounds like negative recruiting that we need to overcome. Sorry this depth chart has nothing to be afraid of until someone actually does something.

 

[Home Slice]

I definitely think our staff goes after their best evals. OL is one of those positions where waiting a little while to start is not a bad thing. Also, unfortunately, as we know too well, injuries occur. If there's one position this regime should not have a problem getting right, is OL

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Note the bolded words and you, @Page305 and @Rellyrell will have your answer as to why that won't work for Miami in 2023.

We aren't a big-time school. We can't sell championships and multiple first round picks every year. Playing time is central to our sales pitch for these elite kids. That's what we sold to Francis and Samson, along with NIL and an OL head coach. You can only play that card so many times.

And to an extent, even the big-time schools aren't immune to this. Yes, Bama traditionally just stacks, but they signed 2 highly rated tackles last class like we did. I don't think they're getting any of the Top 15 or so tackles in the country this year.

 

[AtlAtty]

Allocation of NIL money=there are no tackles worth expending the NIL budget this year after the players we signed last year.
And possibly no tackles who grade out as high as our 2 from last year anyways.

I know we can’t write things like “there is no one worth what we paid Francis and Samson” but we can all still be smart enough to read between the lines.
Do we always needs @DMoney to tell us what we already know? Please figure out some of this for yourselves and not criticize the whitewashed message.

 

[canes732]

Not even Okunlola is a day-one starter is he?

I bet he could have read he needs more strength. But it’s best to shirt him and give him the Max 4 games to have him ready next year.

 

[561Cane]

The overall OL group at Miami is filled with major question marks. For some kid to be scared off from this OL I highly question. Hopefully Mario and company continue to bring on talented OL, 4/5 each year as several seem to quality in the ‘bust’ category. And gain solid transfers when necessary like Cohen and Lee.

And whoever said we landed the most talented OL last cycle, no we did not. Plus, three of those OL won’t see the field for another two years.

 

[Caneofcanes]

Why is this never the case with BAMA, UGA, OSU, MICH, TEX and CLEM? They just stack lineman. Now it’s Problem when we do it

 

[cooks002]

Why is this never the case with BAMA, UGA, OSU, MICH, TEX and CLEM? They just stack lineman. Now it’s Problem when we do it

 

[The Sphinx]

Note the bolded words and you, @Page305 and @Rellyrell will have your answer as to why that won't work for Miami in 2023.

We aren't a big-time school. We can't sell championships and multiple first round picks every year. Playing time is central to our sales pitch for these elite kids. That's what we sold to Francis and Samson, along with NIL and an OL head coach. You can only play that card so many times.

This.

 

[Caneofcanes]

Note the bolded words and you, @Page305 and @Rellyrell will have your answer as to why that won't work for Miami in 2023.

We aren't a big-time school. We can't sell championships and multiple first round picks every year. Playing time is central to our sales pitch for these elite kids. That's what we sold to Francis and Samson, along with NIL and an OL head coach. You can only play that card so many times.

That still shouldn’t matter. Meaning you can only sit so long behind someone. Without the competitive juices kicking in and they recruit your replacement every year. So still sounds bogus, but I get it.

 

[Warrior808]

Why is this never the case with BAMA, UGA, OSU, MICH, TEX and CLEM? They just stack lineman. Now it’s Problem when we do it

But it IS the case even with the blue bloods. TX had an OL class similar to ours but a year earlier in 2022. Last year they followed that up with a mostly project based class. Top rated lineman was #193 and the second rated was #411.

Georgia picked up just one top 100 Olineman in 2022. Second best was #353 overall.

Last year Clemsons top OL recruit was #263 in the nation.

Michigan 2022... Best Oline recruit in their class was #678 (no typo) nationally.

And on top of that, why on earth would we be expected to recruit to the level of Bama, Georgia and Ohio st at this stage of the rebuild? Those are the three best teams this decade and huge blue blood programs.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Anez Cooper and McCoy when he finally gets healthy gives me hope that we'll be fine with OL evaluation and development. Cooper was arguably our best lineman the end of last year. Early reviews regarding McCoy is being a difference maker also.

Agree and that gives a potential swing tackle in McCoy and a starter at guard in cooper. Just need some more war daddies at g and center and hope we hit on a tackle project.

 

[Canesbro31]

The overall OL group at Miami is filled with major question marks. For some kid to be scared off from this OL I highly question. Hopefully Mario and company continue to bring on talented OL, 4/5 each year as several seem to quality in the ‘bust’ category. And gain solid transfers when necessary like Cohen and Lee.

And whoever said we landed the most talented OL last cycle, no we did not. Plus, three of those OL won’t see the field for another two years.

It’s not the OL as a whole it’s just the tackle position. It’s a tough sell to a high rated tackle this year because we just signing 2 5 star tackles last cycle, that’s the point of the thread

 

[Canemang]

AKA Mario and Maribal are missing on many OT targets so the narrative is now dudes are scared of depth

 

[supacane]

Exactly. This narrative floating around is dumb. No other big time schools have trouble stacking the same positions year after year. Down class? sure. Worried about the guys in front of them? Never heard of it before.

We proved weeks ago that this is a false. Simply look at Texas class last year after that elite class in 2022.

 

[M3N]

Sounds like negative recruiting that we need to overcome. Sorry this depth chart has nothing to be afraid of until someone actually does something.

Exactly. Pancake isn’t even starting. And no1 has proven anything. Depth chart is very favorable

 

[Jassid82]

Posters who think 5* guys are gonna sit behind 5* guys at a school that just went 5-7 are still delusional I see. Lol. The reason why they do that at Bama, UGA, OSU,etc is because even though they will sit the bench a year or 2 at least they will be winning and maybe get a natty ring while riding the pine. Why the **** would 5* OT Brandon Baker potentially wait behind Samson or Francis for 2-3 years while he witnesses us lose to Middle Tennessee state and barely compete in the Coastal?? (hypothetically).

 

[supacane]

Texas brought in that crazy class in 2022 on the OL. They brough in 5 more OL last cycle guess what they ranked. 193, 411, 555, 610, 820. Thats Texas that had a top 3 class last cycle.

This when people get mad and say you are defending the staff because facts do not matter to them.

For the ones in the back since we have to bring this up again. Btw i posted this in the bank on May 19th.

@JgDaCane

@Canemang

Explain

 

[JgDaCane]

Note the bolded words and you, @Page305 and @Rellyrell will have your answer as to why that won't work for Miami in 2023.

We aren't a big-time school. We can't sell championships and multiple first round picks every year. Playing time is central to our sales pitch for these elite kids. That's what we sold to Francis and Samson, along with NIL and an OL head coach. You can only play that card so many times.

Fair enough, I guess I just added Mario being an oline guru with proof + nil as to why we could stack that position. Any other position I'd understand.

 

[sdaly12]

The problem was:

1. We took development guys with limited upside​

2. We did a poor job developing them​

3. We didn’t have any upper classmen to pitch in and contribute.​

End result = **** show!

talent evals were horrific and player development worse