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Read [MENTION=9712]Tad Footeball[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4841]The Franchise[/MENTION] comments regarding the treatment the University of Miami gets from some local high schools versus how they treat other universities if you want a dose of reality.

They’ll let Saban use their field to fly in like a pimp on a chopper, but make our people wait like Jehova’s witnessses at the front door, metaphorically speaking. These other schools can cuck, mistreat, and disrespect coaches and players down here and there are virtually no repercussions. If Miami isn’t constantly kissing *** or is perceived to have committed some minor slight, there is no slack at all. A lot of spoiled people with no appreciation.

Hopefully Rick is changing our hat-in-hand culture.
 
Read [MENTION=9712]Tad Footeball[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4841]The Franchise[/MENTION] comments regarding the treatment the University of Miami gets from some local high schools versus how they treat other universities if you want a dose of reality.

They’ll let Saban use their field to fly in like a pimp on a chopper, but make our people wait like Jehova’s witnessses at the front door, metaphorically speaking. These other schools can cuck, mistreat, and disrespect coaches and players down here and there are virtually no repercussions. If Miami isn’t constantly kissing *** or is perceived to have committed some minor slight, there is no slack at all. A lot of spoiled people with no appreciation.

Hopefully Rick is changing our hat-in-hand culture.

Ain’t this the truth, my question is when did it truly begin? Was it during Coker’s latter years or Randy? And if it was Randy, why the love when he went to UF?
 
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Read [MENTION=9712]Tad Footeball[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4841]The Franchise[/MENTION] comments regarding the treatment the University of Miami gets from some local high schools versus how they treat other universities if you want a dose of reality.

They’ll let Saban use their field to fly in like a pimp on a chopper, but make our people wait like Jehova’s witnessses at the front door, metaphorically speaking. These other schools can cuck, mistreat, and disrespect coaches and players down here and there are virtually no repercussions. If Miami isn’t constantly kissing *** or is perceived to have committed some minor slight, there is no slack at all. A lot of spoiled people with no appreciation.

Hopefully Rick is changing our hat-in-hand culture.

Ain’t this the truth, my question is when did it truly begin? Was it during Coker’s latter years or Randy? And if it was Randy, why the love when he went to UF?

that's a great question. It's an important subject. And it's the reason that I hope Mario cristobal is successful at Oregon. Because if Richt is unable to change this way of thinking. We'll need someone who refuses to let Miami high school coaches and handlers treat Miami to some unfair double standard.

But I'm hoping Richt has/is winning most over and they'll see he's a great coach, and a better human. The type of guy you'd want your kid to play for.
 
It’s hard to pinpoint the time, but definitely around Clappy/Randy time.

I don’t remember the specifics, but there were some real beefs between Randy and some local coaches. Which is the last thing I would’ve expected, I was expecting loyalty.
 
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Wow. Saban power move to get the AH kids. It's safe to say he feels threatened by Miami. Surtain must've not guaranteed AH kids would come to Bama or Saban didn't believe he could get them there.

Sorry man. I hate it, but he isn't scared of Richt or Miami at all. This guy has a free pass from his partner Emmert to do whatever he wants.....he has already pillaged out backyard pretty well...just time for us to get ours.

UM
 
Wow. Saban power move to get the AH kids. It's safe to say he feels threatened by Miami. Surtain must've not guaranteed AH kids would come to Bama or Saban didn't believe he could get them there.

Sorry man. I hate it, but he isn't scared of Richt or Miami at all. This guy has a free pass from his partner Emmert to do whatever he wants.....he has already pillaged out backyard pretty well...just time for us to get ours.

UM

Prior years yes, this year no, he has not gotten crap.
 
Wow. Saban power move to get the AH kids. It's safe to say he feels threatened by Miami. Surtain must've not guaranteed AH kids would come to Bama or Saban didn't believe he could get them there.

Sorry man. I hate it, but he isn't scared of Richt or Miami at all. This guy has a free pass from his partner Emmert to do whatever he wants.....he has already pillaged out backyard pretty well...just time for us to get ours.

UM

Prior years yes, this year no, he has not gotten crap.

He got Judas!
 
Supposedly the entire Surtain family is going up for the visit this weekend too. mom, dad, sister, grandma. Saban leaves no stone unturned.

Well, they are definitely not bringing out the ***** committee to pound meat on this OV...what a waste for the kid, they go to get free grub and get their meat pounded by some thick southern chicks...tough outcome.
 
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Wow. Saban power move to get the AH kids. It's safe to say he feels threatened by Miami. Surtain must've not guaranteed AH kids would come to Bama or Saban didn't believe he could get them there.

Sorry man. I hate it, but he isn't scared of Richt or Miami at all. This guy has a free pass from his partner Emmert to do whatever he wants.....he has already pillaged out backyard pretty well...just time for us to get ours.

UM

Only South FL guys that Bama has gotten period for 2018 are Jobe and Xavier Williams. Granted Miami wanted both but I wouldn't call it pillaging.
 
Wow. Saban power move to get the AH kids. It's safe to say he feels threatened by Miami. Surtain must've not guaranteed AH kids would come to Bama or Saban didn't believe he could get them there.

Sorry man. I hate it, but he isn't scared of Richt or Miami at all. This guy has a free pass from his partner Emmert to do whatever he wants.....he has already pillaged out backyard pretty well...just time for us to get ours.

UM

Prior years yes, this year no, he has not gotten crap.

I don't agree with the original statement that he has "pillaged" us at all, but...

He hasn't gotten crap? Did he not just take one of our kids that was committed to us for 2 years? A kid that everyone said was special when he first committed to us but now that he isn't signing with us he is overrated, old, and will never make it?

Carry on ...
 
Pete: “If Miami hires on signing day who it seems like they will, you guys will be happy”.” Also Pete: Miami has a better shot than surtain at campbell.” Taking a leap here but sounds to me like surtain sr to Miami is being considered.
 
Pete: “If Miami hires on signing day who it seems like they will, you guys will be happy”.” Also Pete: Miami has a better shot than surtain at campbell.” Taking a leap here but sounds to me like surtain sr to Miami is being considered.

He’s talking about DVD imo
 
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I hope this actually turns them off.

If he actually interviewed then how would it turn him off?

Because he didn't get the job.
The "not getting hired" smells so much like a Saban smokescreen. No way he wants the "quid pro quo" avalanche that would rain down on him if he was that obvious. But let's be clear, this is ALL about MONEY. Just a question of which road leads to the most, the fastest, with the least amount of risk; just like ANY other business transction. That is the reality of P5 football in the 21st century where kids leaving school after 3 years is the goal (not to mention after 1 in Bball). So PS1 is just trying to maximize the business opportunity for his family however he can and the Bama Boosters will be very happy to oblige in their most crafty manner. At the same time, PS2 goes to play for the top program of the last decade (tough reality to swallow 4 sure) where his probability of jumping into generational money in 3 is at least as good, if not better, than anywhere else. No doubt, staying home, going to a better academic U (Jobe's dad notwithstanding lol), playing with your friends etc all weigh into the equation BUT in most all cases pale in comparison to the $$$ when most of these kids choose their roads.
 
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Pete: “If Miami hires on signing day who it seems like they will, you guys will be happy”.” Also Pete: Miami has a better shot than surtain at campbell.” Taking a leap here but sounds to me like surtain sr to Miami is being considered.

Where/When did Pete say that about a hire on Signing Day?
 
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It’s hard to pinpoint the time, but definitely around Clappy/Randy time.

I don’t remember the specifics, but there were some real beefs between Randy and some local coaches. Which is the last thing I would’ve expected, I was expecting loyalty.

OCC I had a former local player who was then playing college ball tell me that UM did not recruit in the inner city. To put our conversation in context, he was a student in my class who at the beginning of the semester revealed he was from Miami. After class I asked him about the Canes. He said what he did out of hand. He seemingly wasn't even mad about it, but I he believed it whether it was true or not. I wonder if during Shalala's tenure if there really was a disconnect between UM and the Black community in SF.
 
I hope this actually turns them off.

If he actually interviewed then how would it turn him off?

Because he didn't get the job.
The "not getting hired" smells so much like a Saban smokescreen. No way he wants the "quid pro quo" avalanche that would rain down on him if he was that obvious. But let's be clear, this is ALL about MONEY. Just a question of which road leads to the most, the fastest, with the least amount of risk; just like ANY other business transction. That is the reality of P5 football in the 21st century where kids leaving school after 3 years is the goal (not to mention after 1 in Bball). So PS1 is just trying to maximize the business opportunity for his family however he can and the Bama Boosters will be very happy to oblige in their most crafty manner. At the same time, PS2 goes to play for the top program of the last decade (tough reality to swallow 4 sure) where his probability of jumping into generational money in 3 is at least as good, if not better, than anywhere else. No doubt, staying home, going to a better academic U (Jobe's dad notwithstanding lol), playing with your friends etc all weigh into the equation BUT in most all cases pail in comparison to the $$$ when most of these kids choose their roads.

Have you seen the house PS1 lives in? Man didn’t take any money...he probably legitimately interviewed and was asked to “deliver” and he followed with can’t guarantee that. Just like Chise said.
 
Pete: “If Miami hires on signing day who it seems like they will, you guys will be happy”.” Also Pete: Miami has a better shot than surtain at campbell.” Taking a leap here but sounds to me like surtain sr to Miami is being considered.

Where/When did Pete say that about a hire on Signing Day?

Podcast but it was a QC position...can’t be Surtain.
 
I hope this actually turns them off.

If he actually interviewed then how would it turn him off?

Because he didn't get the job.
The "not getting hired" smells so much like a Saban smokescreen. No way he wants the "quid pro quo" avalanche that would rain down on him if he was that obvious. But let's be clear, this is ALL about MONEY. Just a question of which road leads to the most, the fastest, with the least amount of risk; just like ANY other business transction. That is the reality of P5 football in the 21st century where kids leaving school after 3 years is the goal (not to mention after 1 in Bball). So PS1 is just trying to maximize the business opportunity for his family however he can and the Bama Boosters will be very happy to oblige in their most crafty manner. At the same time, PS2 goes to play for the top program of the last decade (tough reality to swallow 4 sure) where his probability of jumping into generational money in 3 is at least as good, if not better, than anywhere else. No doubt, staying home, going to a better academic U (Jobe's dad notwithstanding lol), playing with your friends etc all weigh into the equation BUT in most all cases pail in comparison to the $$$ when most of these kids choose their roads.

Have you seen the house PS1 lives in? Man didn’t take any money...he probably legitimately interviewed and was asked to “deliver” and he followed with can’t guarantee that. Just like Chise said.
Do you know the size of his mortgage? Bank account and future cash flows? Yes, understand your point, but by that logic, should you stop wanting more just because you already have some? You know the name of that governing system right?
 
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