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Proof of Randomness in College Baseball

canesproponent said:
Based on Dancer's calculation, and using basic math, Morris was better than 97% of Division 1 College coaches. He also made Omaha, which is the equivalent of a Final Four in basketball or the Football Playoffs.

UM Football would do ANYTHING to have accomplished this over the past decade.

Someone just incinerated the gnome and exposed him as the concierge that he is!
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LOL, Tiny did the leg work to prove Jaromir correct in his OP. All the coaches names are from big name programs. Tiny also tried to deflect the fact that we regressed due to injuries and the fact that players like Collins were no longer here to protect the current players in the line up. Well, we have a hitting coach and it is his job to have the players ready. If he cannot do his job it falls on the head coach.

I also asked for an honest ranking of Morris, O'Sullivan and Martin currently. Unless I missed it where is your response to that, or are you afraid of the truth?

Jaromir Jagr said:
Who would have guessed that we would ever see this list of no-name teams in Omaha.....

Cal-State Fullerton
Florida
Florida State
Louisville
LSU
Oregon State
TCU
Texas A&M

Further proof that it's all a big roulette wheel and coaching has no part in it. Random.
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Ok. Here is the true context according to Jagr.

Jagr agrees that UM has a Top 9 coach in the country, but that is not good enough for him.

I am highly pleased with a Top 9 coach. Especially one who was also top-3 in 2015 and 2016.
 
canesproponent said:
Ok. Here is the true context according to Jagr.

Jagr agrees that UM has a Top 9 coach in the country, but that is not good enough for him.

I am highly pleased with a Top 9 coach. Especially one who was also top-3 in 2015 and 2016.
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The bolded part is a lie, which is expected from someone who can't basic facts right.

Jim Morris isn't top anything at this point. From 1994-2001 college baseball was his *****. He was the top dog. No one can touch him during that stretch. Since then, the program he leads has coasted on reputation. Unfortunately that complacency led to his team missing the tournament.

Also, he no longer has Turtle and Lazar running roughshod through NCAA rules under his supervision, but that topic is taboo.
 
Explain this to me logically because your cognitive reasoning has me beyond perplexed......

Morris has won more games than ALL BUT 8 coaches in the game during his WORST stretch (this includes 2017, by the way).

He is #9 on the basis of World Series appearances since 2009 (not including his 2008 World Series team).

Explain to me why this does not make him a top 10 coach during his worst stretch and also please list 10 coaches that performed better than him since 2009....
 
canesproponent said:
Explain this to me logically because your cognitive reasoning has me beyond perplexed......

Morris has won more games than ALL BUT 8 coaches in the game during his WORST stretch (this includes 2017, by the way).

He is #9 on the basis of World Series appearances since 2009 (not including his 2008 World Series team).

Explain to me why this does not make him a top 10 coach during his worst stretch and also please list 10 coaches that performed better than him since 2009....
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The same reason why Larry Coker wasn't the best coach in college football in 2001. That might be the easiest question I've ever been asked.

I won't waste the time by listing them all, but there are 64 coaches who have a current post-season streak of at least one (1).
 
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canesproponent said:
He is #9 on the basis of World Series appearances since 2009 (not including his 2008 World Series team).
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Oh really. Here are the number of CWS appearances by team since 2009:

6 - Florida
5 - TCU
4 - LSU
3 - Arkansas
3 - CS Fullerton
3 - Texas
3 - North Carolina
3 - Florida State
3 - South Carolina
3 - UCLA
3 - Vanderbilt
3 - Virginia
3 - Louisville
2 - Arizona State
2 - Texas A&M
2 - Arizona
2 - Oregon State
2 - Texas Tech
2 - Miami (FL)

In other words, we are tied for 14th with five other teams "on the basis of World Series appearances since 2009". Top 19. But you think we're 9th. And you can't figure out why no one takes you seriously. #DartmouthMath
 
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Ok. Sounds good.

So.... in regard to wins, he is #9 . In regard to College World Series appearances he is definitively top 20. [Wins is a real sample, but I digress.]

Le me restate.

Gnome says that top-10 in wins and top 20 in CWS appearances is NOT good enough. Hey EINSTEIN, let me state the obvious. There are TWO private schools on that list. TWO..... Einstein.

I disagree and think that is perfect.
 
canesproponent said:
Ok. Sounds good.

So.... in regard to wins, he is #9 . In regard to College World Series appearances he is definitively top 20. [Wins is a real sample, but I digress.]

Le me restate.

Gnome says that top-10 in wins and top 20 in CWS appearances is NOT good enough. Hey EINSTEIN, let me state the obvious. There are TWO private schools on that list. TWO..... Einstein.

I disagree and think that is perfect.
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Now you want to "state the obvious" when, once again, you can't even get basic facts right? That's rich.

Guess what...we don't only compete against private schools. Talk about making up stats....."our coach is among the top three private school coaches in the country." Woo-fcking-Hoo. No one cares about that. Try making the tournament first.
 
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HA!

People call what I just delineated "a pattern". You do not know of this concept. [You can thank me later.] Let me elucidate something else. USC, Stanford and Rice care about their programs as much as we do.

Top 10 in wins is PLENTY for me. Plus 2 CWS in the past 3 years!
 
A pattern? The only pattern you have demonstrated is that when there is a verifiable stat involved, you completely fck it up. The internet is a foreign language to you.

Now you're all about "regular season wins". Cute. Maybe we could start putting banners for that on the scoreboard since we don't compete for championships anymore.
 
Is 16 years a big enough sample size? In 16 seasons, we missed the CWS 10 times, and our best CWS performance in the other six years is 1-2.
 
So did ~286 other teams.....

By being top-8 during the regular season, you markedly improve likelihood of winning the CWS.... [Not running a logistic for you, since you have no idea what that is. You probably think that it is a type of spaceship..... ]
 
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canesproponent said:
By being top-8 during the regular season, you markedly improve likelihood of winning the CWS....
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Oh yeah? Then why do you and Aquinas spend so much time telling us how random the post-season is? Thanks for proving the point I've been making for five years: we haven't been one of the best teams in a long, long time, and the post-season proves it every single year.

You have to be the worst data/stat guy I have ever encountered, bar none. Those guys are precise with their numbers. You're a statistical mess.
 
Zbrod95 said:
so when anybody tells you your wrong, it's lies
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No. I just wasn't wrong about anything. If I was then Jagr would be pushing that case. I wasn't wrong. So he's not.

You just went on a long digression because everything else you did was proven to be a lie.
 
Zbrod95 said:
You're a democrat aren't you...look I ain't got all day, I got to go on some patient runs. I'll come back to this **** show later
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Please.

You're a 20-year old nobody who lies one message boards and brags about being friends with fringe players.

Go sell your importance to somebody who might buy it.
 
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Tiny Dancer said:
Zbrod95 said:
You're a democrat aren't you...look I ain't got all day, I got to go on some patient runs. I'll come back to this **** show later
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Please.

You're a 20-year old nobody who lies one message boards and brags about being friends with fringe players.

Go sell your importance to somebody who might buy it.
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Trust me when I tell you what I do is more important than you'll ever be loser
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
Exactly one of those eight coaches walked into a legendary program. And he kept it rolling. The other seven built their success from nothing.
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But what does that have to do with the objective standard of getting to Omaha and winning championships? It seems that at some point once a coach has built a program he should be judged just like the rest of his peers.

For instance, why does Dan McDonnell get a pass because 11 years ago he inherited a program that wasn't any good? The guy makes a million dollars a year and is 2-8 in Omaha. And he's in his prime years.
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
The guy we're talking about took over a regular CWS contender and kept that going for 8 years. The last 15, though......
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And not one of those guys mentioned had an 8 year stretch like Jim Morrris did. Not even close.

As for the last 15 years:

CWS Appearances (Since 2003)
LSU - 7
Florida - 7
Cal State Fullerton - 7
Texas - 6
Miami - 6
North Carolina - 6
South Carolina - 5
Oregon State- 5
Rice - 4
Florida State - 4
Virginia - 4

Once again you bring up a criterion and the low-down, no good, loser that you portray him as turns out to be top 5.
 
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