Defensive Scheme vs Talent

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For all the people who want to blame the scheme/coahing, which players do you feel would have performed at a higher level in a different defense? You want to say youth and the depth chart was an excuse, then you're saying those players are better than the 116th ranked defense, and just underperformed in the defense we ran. So what players would have performed at such a higher level in a different defense that we would have had a top ___ ranked defense?

A case can be made that the whole Defensive Line would've played better had they been allowed to play a 1-gap technique. Our guys up front were not built to do what we were asking them to do.

Not saying it's true, but it's a fair and logical answer to your question.

I think D'Onofrio could've scaled it down a little bit. He ran alot of stuff. Too much stuff for a group so young.

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

that may be true, but it would go against everything they teach etc ..

You cater to players not the coaches. See jed going hurry up. played to the players strengths.
 

It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.

I quit because you can't go one post without attacking someone. You need therapy.

I expect more from you Rok! You're not playing the poor little victim now are you? I attacked your hate for coach D which is more and more evident with every post down to calling him Dorito. That's some weak *** **** bruh!
 
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For all the people who want to blame the scheme/coahing, which players do you feel would have performed at a higher level in a different defense? You want to say youth and the depth chart was an excuse, then you're saying those players are better than the 116th ranked defense, and just underperformed in the defense we ran. So what players would have performed at such a higher level in a different defense that we would have had a top ___ ranked defense?

A case can be made that the whole Defensive Line would've played better had they been allowed to play a 1-gap technique. Our guys up front were not built to do what we were asking them to do.

Not saying it's true, but it's a fair and logical answer to your question.

I think D'Onofrio could've scaled it down a little bit. He ran alot of stuff. Too much stuff for a group so young.

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

Blah...blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, blah.....

So now you want the coaching staff to cut corners rather than implement their plan for the future? Notice how you didn't mention any names just made some BS comments and proceeded to continue with your agenda of a BS theory that Miami doesn't have and will never have players that can run a 3-4?

Change is difficult for some but in time you'll grow to accept the new changes.

SMH. This kid.
 
For all the people who want to blame the scheme/coahing, which players do you feel would have performed at a higher level in a different defense? You want to say youth and the depth chart was an excuse, then you're saying those players are better than the 116th ranked defense, and just underperformed in the defense we ran. So what players would have performed at such a higher level in a different defense that we would have had a top ___ ranked defense?

A case can be made that the whole Defensive Line would've played better had they been allowed to play a 1-gap technique. Our guys up front were not built to do what we were asking them to do.

Not saying it's true, but it's a fair and logical answer to your question.

I think D'Onofrio could've scaled it down a little bit. He ran alot of stuff. Too much stuff for a group so young.

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

Blah...blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, blah.....

So now you want the coaching staff to cut corners rather than implement their plan for the future? Notice how you didn't mention any names just made some BS comments and proceeded to continue with your agenda of a BS theory that Miami doesn't have and will never have players that can run a 3-4?

Change is difficult for some but in time you'll grow to accept the new changes.

SMH. This kid.

SMH. This Corch...
 
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For all the people who want to blame the scheme/coahing, which players do you feel would have performed at a higher level in a different defense? You want to say youth and the depth chart was an excuse, then you're saying those players are better than the 116th ranked defense, and just underperformed in the defense we ran. So what players would have performed at such a higher level in a different defense that we would have had a top ___ ranked defense?

A case can be made that the whole Defensive Line would've played better had they been allowed to play a 1-gap technique. Our guys up front were not built to do what we were asking them to do.

Not saying it's true, but it's a fair and logical answer to your question.

I think D'Onofrio could've scaled it down a little bit. He ran alot of stuff. Too much stuff for a group so young.

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

Blah...blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, blah.....

So now you want the coaching staff to cut corners rather than implement their plan for the future? Notice how you didn't mention any names just made some BS comments and proceeded to continue with your agenda of a BS theory that Miami doesn't have and will never have players that can run a 3-4?

Change is difficult for some but in time you'll grow to accept the new changes.

SMH. This kid.

SMH. This Coach...

...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.
 
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It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.

So you're going to give Dorito ALL the credit for restocking our defense? He's the one who found all of the defensive recruits and he's the one who personally recruited all of them?

Because that's the argument you're making when not giving credit to the entire staff for the replenishment of our defense.
 
A case can be made that the whole Defensive Line would've played better had they been allowed to play a 1-gap technique. Our guys up front were not built to do what we were asking them to do.

Not saying it's true, but it's a fair and logical answer to your question.

I think D'Onofrio could've scaled it down a little bit. He ran alot of stuff. Too much stuff for a group so young.

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

Blah...blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, blah.....

So now you want the coaching staff to cut corners rather than implement their plan for the future? Notice how you didn't mention any names just made some BS comments and proceeded to continue with your agenda of a BS theory that Miami doesn't have and will never have players that can run a 3-4?

Change is difficult for some but in time you'll grow to accept the new changes.

SMH. This kid.

SMH. This Coach...

...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.

Well than sound like it because so far your BS theories don't hold weight. This Dorito bashing circle jerk that a few of you subscribe to is based on stupidity.

Just sit back and let some real coaches show you how it's done corch.
 
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It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.


The only agenda anyone here has is for Miami to win. The people who keep pulling the agenda card for no reason are the people with the team agenda.

Yeah, you Dorito bashers are just keeping it real. Want to see Miami win by bashing one of the guys here to rebuild it from the dumpster that the incompetent one who shall not be named left the program in.

Hey maybe if you keeping it realtards scream it loud enough from the mountain tops of your keyboard the coaching staff at Miami will allow you to run the defense? Just we need as fans of Miami, Nites or Wildcat running the defense.
 
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It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.

So you're going to give Dorito ALL the credit for restocking our defense? He's the one who found all of the defensive recruits and he's the one who personally recruited all of them?

Because that's the argument you're making when not giving credit to the entire staff for the replenishment of our defense.

LOL! Not going to even attempt to explain myself considering you didn't comprehend anything. Surprising!

No, no, Corch Dorito is a turrible DC and Golden will end up getting fired if he doesn't fire his best friend at the end of the season. Is that better? Can I be in the Dorito club now?
 
Blah...blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, blah.....

So now you want the coaching staff to cut corners rather than implement their plan for the future? Notice how you didn't mention any names just made some BS comments and proceeded to continue with your agenda of a BS theory that Miami doesn't have and will never have players that can run a 3-4?

Change is difficult for some but in time you'll grow to accept the new changes.

SMH. This kid.

SMH. This Coach...

...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.

Well than sound like it because so far your BS theories don't hold weight. This Dorito bashing circle jerk that a few of you subscribe to is based on stupidity.

Just back and let some real coaches show you how it's done corch.

Get your frequently-bobbing-head out of your ***, little boy. I'm not "bashing" D'Onofrio. I've been completely objective in everything I've ever said.

All of my points are valid and make perfect sense. And none of my opinions (or concerns) are definite, they're just questions and/or concerns. I've never once said "this, this and this will or won't happen".

Your whole "thing" is to call people idiots every time they make a point that you don't agree with. You don't actually debunk anything anybody says, EVER. You don't like my "BS theories" but you've never once said anything to debunk them, you just throw around insults like an angry little girl.
 
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SMH. This kid.

SMH. This Coach...

...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.

Well than sound like it because so far your BS theories don't hold weight. This Dorito bashing circle jerk that a few of you subscribe to is based on stupidity.

Just back and let some real coaches show you how it's done corch.

Get your frequently-bobbing-head out of your ***, little boy. I'm not "bashing" D'Onofrio. I've been completely objective in everything I've ever said.

All of my points are valid and make perfect sense. And none of my opinions (or concerns) are definite, they're just questions and/or concerns. I've never once said "this, this and this will or won't happen".

Your whole "thing" is to call people idiots every time they make a point that you don't agree with. You don't actually debunk anything anybody says, EVER. You don't like my "BS theories" but you've never once said anything to debunk them, you just throw around insults like an angry little girl.

You said players in South FL don't fit the 3-4 scheme. I mentioned Wilfork being the best NT to play in a 3-4 and you said "Players like Wilfork don't grow on trees". I then reminded you that Wilfork grew from a South FL tree. I said I could on and on and you asked me to but I don't have time to put together a list of all of the South FL talent that have played or are playing in a 3-4 defense in the NFL. It would take to long and I wouldn't want to here all of the excuses as to how those types of players don't grow on trees.

Like I said, your BS theory that South FL talent can't play a 3-4 defense is just that. But you already know that because you ran one correct? Keep making sense bruh...
 
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SMH. This Coach...

...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.

Well than sound like it because so far your BS theories don't hold weight. This Dorito bashing circle jerk that a few of you subscribe to is based on stupidity.

Just back and let some real coaches show you how it's done corch.

Get your frequently-bobbing-head out of your ***, little boy. I'm not "bashing" D'Onofrio. I've been completely objective in everything I've ever said.

All of my points are valid and make perfect sense. And none of my opinions (or concerns) are definite, they're just questions and/or concerns. I've never once said "this, this and this will or won't happen".

Your whole "thing" is to call people idiots every time they make a point that you don't agree with. You don't actually debunk anything anybody says, EVER. You don't like my "BS theories" but you've never once said anything to debunk them, you just throw around insults like an angry little girl.

You said players in South FL don't fit the 3-4 scheme. I mentioned Wilfork being the best NT to play in a 3-4 and you said "Players like Wilfork don't grow on trees". I then reminded you that Wilfork grew from a South FL tree. I said I could on and on and you asked me to but I don't have time to put together a list of all of the South FL talent that have played or are playing in a 3-4 defense in the NFL. It would take to long and I wouldn't want to here all of the excuses as to how those types of players don't grow on trees.

Like I said, your BS theory that South FL talent can't play a 3-4 defense is just that. But you already know that because you ran one correct? Keep making sense bruh...

First of all...

Didn't say they "can't" play in a 3-4.

Second...

You don't have time, my ***. You just can't think of anybody else. You don't have time to list some more players but you have time to constantly talk **** on here post after post? Gimme a fvckin' break.

Your dumb *** is talkin' about the NFL. Well ****, EVERYBODY that goes to the NFL can play in a 3-4. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN THE NFL!!! They draft the best-of-the-best. We're talkin' about Miami grabbing kids from South Florida, not the NFL grabbing the best-of-the-best from around the country.

FACT: Most South Florida high school kids don't play in the 3-4.
FACT: Most South Florida high school kids aren't accustomed to engaging blockers and/or 2-gapping.
FACT: Most South Florida high school kids play in speed-based penetration schemes.
FACT: South Florida is a speed region, not a brute strength region.
FACT: What we're doing on defense is an adjustment from what the kids in South Florida have been doing their whole life.

Do all of these things mean that what Golden and D'Onofrio are doing WON'T work? Not at all. However, most likely it means that kids will take longer to contribute once they get here.

And in my opinion, it also makes evaluations more difficult. If you're watching countless South Florida high school Defensive Lineman shoot gaps, how are you able to get a real idea of whether he can play in your more physical scheme or not? You've never seen him do what YOU are asking him to do.

I'm not saying it can't work, or will never work, all I'm saying is that it's like Wisconsin trying to run a speed-based offense.
 

It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.


The only agenda anyone here has is for Miami to win. The people who keep pulling the agenda card for no reason are the people with the team agenda.

Yeah, you Dorito bashers are just keeping it real. Want to see Miami win by bashing one of the guys here to rebuild it from the dumpster that the incompetent one who shall not be named left the program in.

Hey maybe if you keeping it realtards scream it loud enough from the mountain tops of your keyboard the coaching staff at Miami will allow you to run the defense? Just we need as fans of Miami, Nites or Wildcat running the defense.


The reality is this...d'ohnofrio has not had a defense that has stooped any note worthy opponent or even accomplish anything of note. That's the reality. You can talk about scoring defnese all day but what has he done against good teams in his career rather it be here or at temple?

Maybe you can point something out to me because I haven't seen his defnese do anything that will lead you to believe he can do anything here. Shutting out 1-10 Akron does not move me. It may do something for you but not me.
 
If Golden/D'Ohnofrio Defense does not work this season and have similar total defense stats from last year, do anyone think they switch back to Miami 4-3 Defense?
 
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...knows 129x more about this football **** than this couch potato.

Well than sound like it because so far your BS theories don't hold weight. This Dorito bashing circle jerk that a few of you subscribe to is based on stupidity.

Just back and let some real coaches show you how it's done corch.

Get your frequently-bobbing-head out of your ***, little boy. I'm not "bashing" D'Onofrio. I've been completely objective in everything I've ever said.

All of my points are valid and make perfect sense. And none of my opinions (or concerns) are definite, they're just questions and/or concerns. I've never once said "this, this and this will or won't happen".

Your whole "thing" is to call people idiots every time they make a point that you don't agree with. You don't actually debunk anything anybody says, EVER. You don't like my "BS theories" but you've never once said anything to debunk them, you just throw around insults like an angry little girl.

You said players in South FL don't fit the 3-4 scheme. I mentioned Wilfork being the best NT to play in a 3-4 and you said "Players like Wilfork don't grow on trees". I then reminded you that Wilfork grew from a South FL tree. I said I could on and on and you asked me to but I don't have time to put together a list of all of the South FL talent that have played or are playing in a 3-4 defense in the NFL. It would take to long and I wouldn't want to here all of the excuses as to how those types of players don't grow on trees.

Like I said, your BS theory that South FL talent can't play a 3-4 defense is just that. But you already know that because you ran one correct? Keep making sense bruh...

First of all...

Didn't say they "can't" play in a 3-4.

Second...

You don't have time, my ***. You just can't think of anybody else. You don't have time to list some more players but you have time to constantly talk **** on here post after post? Gimme a fvckin' break.

Your dumb *** is talkin' about the NFL. Well ****, EVERYBODY that goes to the NFL can play in a 3-4. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN THE NFL!!! They draft the best-of-the-best. We're talkin' about Miami grabbing kids from South Florida, not the NFL grabbing the best-of-the-best from around the country.

FACT: Most South Florida high school kids don't play in the 3-4.
FACT: Most South Florida high school kids aren't accustomed to engaging blockers and/or 2-gapping.
FACT: Most South Florida high school kids play in speed-based penetration schemes.
FACT: South Florida is a speed region, not a brute strength region.
FACT: What we're doing on defense is an adjustment from what the kids in South Florida have been doing their whole life.

Do all of these things mean that what Golden and D'Onofrio are doing WON'T work? Not at all. However, most likely it means that kids will take longer to contribute once they get here.

And in my opinion, it also makes evaluations more difficult. If you're watching countless South Florida high school Defensive Lineman shoot gaps, how are you able to get a real idea of whether he can play in your more physical scheme or not? You've never seen him do what YOU are asking him to do.

I'm not saying it can't work, or will never work, all I'm saying is that it's like Wisconsin trying to run a speed-based offense.

Let me tell you something, if Bama can run a hybrid 3-4 defense then Miami can most certainly run a 3-4 defense. Sounds like you have all of these doubts because no one has given you any proof to be positive. Do you really want me to produce a list of players that play in the NFL that are from the state of Miami? You saying that of course those players can play in a 3-4 because they're in the NFL is straight up ******* stupid. The state of Miami produces more NFL talent than any region in the entire USA. Again, this conjured up BS theory that South FL talent can't play in a 3-4 defense is BS. You yourself already stated you ran a 3-4?

Now how about some info I've been keeping back just to allow enough rope for you Dorito haters to hang yourself? You keep talking about South FL talent? I guess you haven't figured out that at any point in time where Miami has dominated they've done so because they have recruited well nationally? This idea that South FL recruiting makes or breaks Miami is just another load of BS from people who don't get it. Get it corch?

Like I said, sit back and relax and watch real coaches coach corch.
 
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