Defensive Scheme vs Talent

[Picksix]

The defense in 1997 wasn't as bad as 2012 and that was a team with about 65 players on it. There's no question that youth and a lack of talent played a big role in our struggles last season but to pretend like none of it is attributable to the coaches is 100% homerism.

Well if youth and lack of talent "played a big role" then exactly what percentage was due to coaches because now it doesn't sound like coaching "played a big role"?

 

[dk72]

The defensive depth chart was bad, but it probably wasn't 116th in the nation bad. Some of the blame should go on Dorito until he proves he's a great DC here.

The depth chart was bad but not 116th in the nation bad? When you're entire two deep is made up of True Sophomores or younger you are 116th nationally bad. Hate to break it to you.

Exactly. The 99-yard touchdown pass by the Blue Devils late in the game was pretty much a perfect summary of our defense last year. A badly blown coverage by a very inexperienced defender. That was not an exception, that was a frequent occurrence all year, and that it happened is no surprise given the youth and inexperience we had in the secondary, coupled with a d-line that had no depth at all and gave QB's all day to throw.

 

[Newkirk]

The defense in 1997 wasn't as bad as 2012 and that was a team with about 65 players on it. There's no question that youth and a lack of talent played a big role in our struggles last season but to pretend like none of it is attributable to the coaches is 100% homerism.

Well if youth and lack of talent "played a big role" then exactly what percentage was due to coaches because now it doesn't sound like coaching "played a big role"?

Apparently he means coaching played a bigger role.

 

[Newkirk]

Worse than Nevada, Tulane, Kansas, Idaho, New Mexico St, Eastern Michigan, Wyoming, Toledo, Akron, Marshall, UTEP, Troy, Midd Tenn - gonna run out of room on defense, but it's ok because we were young, guys. Saban, Meyer, and Stoops never inherited a young defense when they took over a program. The talent at the University of Miami was clearly worse than 118 other teams in the country. 2023. That's the year..that's the year the stars will align when 11, 23-year-old redshirt seniors take the field, and then, and ONLY then can we expect to crack double digits in defensive rankings.

It's a process, fellas. Hang in there.

Full ****** ahead bruh...

You keep attacking the poster and not his post.

 

[Gamineal]

I guess this make for good reading...but in a few weeks we shall all find out...

if FAU gets anything more than 300 yards on us...we are ****ed plain and simple...I dont care if they only score 13 points...better teams will find ways to score points when moving the ball....I feel we make drastic improvements this year...VERY DRASTIC..

 

[CanesAreAble]

With that said, I'm assuming the plan was to install his scheme through and through, and take our lumps in the process. (which might be better in the long run)

I think that was definitely the plan. That's why we played 27 or 28 guys last year. Get everyone reps, and get them on tape.

D'Onofrio has already said they plan to cut the rotation back considerably.

 

[rok]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

 

[Picksix]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

 

[CanesAreAble]

Worse than Nevada, Tulane, Kansas, Idaho, New Mexico St, Eastern Michigan, Wyoming, Toledo, Akron, Marshall, UTEP, Troy, Midd Tenn - gonna run out of room on defense, but it's ok because we were young, guys. Saban, Meyer, and Stoops never inherited a young defense when they took over a program. The talent at the University of Miami was clearly worse than 118 other teams in the country. 2023. That's the year..that's the year the stars will align when 11, 23-year-old redshirt seniors take the field, and then, and ONLY then can we expect to crack double digits in defensive rankings.

It's a process, fellas. Hang in there.

C'mon now. We didn't play New Mexico State's schedule, and they didn't play ours.

DUKE would've won 10 or 11 games with their schedule (and Duke Johnson would've gone undefeated).

We won't need seniors across the board to have a successful defense. Once things are on schedule, EVERYONE on the roster will know the scheme, and players can pass knowledge down to the underclassmen (the way it should be).

And let's not forget we actually have a standard for strength & conditioning now.

 

[Picksix]

Worse than Nevada, Tulane, Kansas, Idaho, New Mexico St, Eastern Michigan, Wyoming, Toledo, Akron, Marshall, UTEP, Troy, Midd Tenn - gonna run out of room on defense, but it's ok because we were young, guys. Saban, Meyer, and Stoops never inherited a young defense when they took over a program. The talent at the University of Miami was clearly worse than 118 other teams in the country. 2023. That's the year..that's the year the stars will align when 11, 23-year-old redshirt seniors take the field, and then, and ONLY then can we expect to crack double digits in defensive rankings.

It's a process, fellas. Hang in there.

Full ****** ahead bruh...

You keep attacking the poster and not his post.

You sound like a woman scorned. Let me guess, you were banned and are going to try and point every time someone does what you were banned for?

Where did that porster Miaminites go?

 

[rok]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

 

[Consigliere]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

This is very fair.

We replaced a ton of inexperience and youth with the following:

1. Transfers/JUCOs: Gilbert, Renfrow and Kamala (although not expecting much from him early on)

2. Experience: The young kids have taken a bunch of reps and have gone through a full spring. They have a season of actual football under their belt. While the kids will still make mistakes there will be fewer overall.

3. Bigger/Stronger/Faster: The young kids have now grown up in size and strength, while there is more growth to be done there is a major difference. They are ready for more reps and making a greater impact on the field.

4. The Schedule: As it appears now, unless something drastically changes (i.e. Pitt runs the table or UNC is undefeated), that the schedule is much weaker then last year. If we fielded the exact same defense (same players, same experience, same size) I would think we would do better and the scoring overall would be down.

5. Curtis Porter: This is so crucial, in fact if we had him healthy, conditioned and practicing last year I guarantee we would have had a lot more success on on the DL and the defense overall.

As close to 22PPG as possible.

 

[Picksix]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

Way to belittle the DC for "restocking the bare cupboard".

Still waiting for what percentage coaching played in the abysmal defensive performance last year if "youth and talent played a big role".

 

[rok]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

Way to belittle the DC for "restocking the bare cupboard".

Still waiting for what percentage coaching played in the abysmal defensive performance last year if "youth and talent played a big role".

How is giving him credit for restocking the cupboard in any way belittling?

And as far as a percentage I'd say it was 80% talent and 20% coaching.

 

[Picksix]

There's no excuse not to make drastic improvements because we have grown men on the DL and plenty of experience throughout the entire defense. It might not be the ideal two-deep of 24 year old 6th year seniors but it's a wide gulf between where we're at now and where we were one year ago.

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

Way to belittle the DC for "restocking the bare cupboard".

Still waiting for what percentage coaching played in the abysmal defensive performance last year if "youth and talent played a big role".

How is giving him credit for restocking the cupboard in any way belittling?

And as far as a percentage I'd say it was 80% talent and 20% coaching.

Did I say belittle? Maybe I meant you were minimizing his performance. So now Coach D was only a mere 20% of the problem for abysmal defensive performance to his defense but all the coaches get credit for restocking the bare cupboard to his defense? No, I would say you're belittling Coach D. At lest you admit the cupboard was bare last year to that 116th ranked defense. Wonder why a defense with a bare cupboard would rank 116th? It must have been 20% due to coaching.

 

[rok]

So does Coach D get any credit for roster management of his defense?

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

Way to belittle the DC for "restocking the bare cupboard".

Still waiting for what percentage coaching played in the abysmal defensive performance last year if "youth and talent played a big role".

How is giving him credit for restocking the cupboard in any way belittling?

And as far as a percentage I'd say it was 80% talent and 20% coaching.

Did I say belittle? Maybe I meant you were minimizing his performance. So now Coach D was only a mere 20% of the problem for abysmal defensive performance to his defense but all the coaches get credit for restocking the bare cupboard to his defense? No, I would say you're belittling Coach D. At lest you admit the cupboard was bare last year to that 116th ranked defense. Wonder why a defense with a bare cupboard would rank 116th? It must have been 20% due to coaching.

Dorito isn't the only one recruiting so why wouldn't I give credit to the other coaches?

20% seems fair to me. Dorito hasn't had a lot of success here, and there's been times where we were the more talented team and we didn't play like it.

 

[Picksix]

All of the coaches deserve credit for re-stocking the cupboard.

Way to belittle the DC for "restocking the bare cupboard".

Still waiting for what percentage coaching played in the abysmal defensive performance last year if "youth and talent played a big role".

How is giving him credit for restocking the cupboard in any way belittling?

And as far as a percentage I'd say it was 80% talent and 20% coaching.

Did I say belittle? Maybe I meant you were minimizing his performance. So now Coach D was only a mere 20% of the problem for abysmal defensive performance to his defense but all the coaches get credit for restocking the bare cupboard to his defense? No, I would say you're belittling Coach D. At lest you admit the cupboard was bare last year to that 116th ranked defense. Wonder why a defense with a bare cupboard would rank 116th? It must have been 20% due to coaching.

Dorito isn't the only one recruiting so why wouldn't I give credit to the other coaches?

20% seems fair to me. Dorito hasn't had a lot of success here, and there's been times where we were the more talented team and we didn't play like it.

Dorito? How cute... Did you think that up all by yourself or did you steal that gem from the other village idiots with an axe to grind?

I thought the cupboard was bare and Dorito just restocked it for this season? Now we were more talented than other other teams at times but didn't show it? Makes total sense...

 

[rok]

I quit

 

[Picksix]

I quit

It's for the best because you sure as **** aren't making a coherent argument. Just proving you have an agenda.

 

[WhatTheHell]

You're really knockin' em out of the park, ****Pics.