Barry Jackson in depth about the defense/D'onofrio

[Duval904]

2008 young offense.....offense STUNK
2008 young defens.....defense was much better than the offense

both units young

what was the difference?

hmmmmmmm

 

[The Franchise]

I view it more as you are about to fight a lion. Would you rather curl up into a ball and hope it tires itself out before murdering you, or fashion together a weapon using your shoelaces, belt, and sticks before charging at it like that dude from Braveheart?

I'm not a fan of the bend and eventually break anyway D we ran. I'd rather come out swinging and create some sacks and turnovers. Like I said, statistically, we could NOT have been worse.

Pretty sure the thought process is that the more plays you make them run the bigger the chance that you can force a turnover. Those 1 play 90 yard "drives" minimize the turnover potential pretty dramatically.

 

[jerzeycane]

2008 young offense.....offense STUNK
2008 young defens.....defense was much better than the offense

both units young

what was the difference?

hmmmmmmm

It's not a parallel. Running a more difficult/complex scheme than they were in 2008. So no, it's not a fair assessment of D'Onofrio as a Coordinator. Already know where you're going with this.

 

[rok]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

 

[bomb]

His first year at Miami the defense only allowed 20.1 ppg. Do you think in one year he suddenly forgot how to coach defense or do you think the terrible results we had last year was caused by the lack of talent and experience we were playing with?

This is exactly what I said during the season. So our scoring defense drops by 10 points, and our total defense drops by nearly 130 yards.

Either D'Onofrio has early onset dementia, or we felt the loss of the following players:

Sean Spence
Micanor Regis
Adewale Ojomo
JoJo Nicholas
Marcus Robinson
Andrew Smith
Olivier Vernon
Ray Ray Armstrong

Not exactly a murderers' row, but we due to the horrible 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, we didn't properly replace those guys.

Early in the season, we were playing with **** near Sun Belt talent on the d-line. Chickillo was the ONLY defensive end on the roster who had taken a collegiate snap at the position and he's a true sophomore.

Our defense was bound to be a train wreck last year.

Not exactly a murderers row, but a LOT better than what we had this year. With that group of Shannon malcontents, he was able to produce a very good defense with a new system they weren't entirely used to. Now imagine him with a roster full of depth, talent and experience?

Coach D isn't going anywhere.

 

[WhatTheHell]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

This dude on the bike gets it.

 

[Duval904]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

sounds like that would be because of the coach?

 

[Duval904]

His first year at Miami the defense only allowed 20.1 ppg. Do you think in one year he suddenly forgot how to coach defense or do you think the terrible results we had last year was caused by the lack of talent and experience we were playing with?

This is exactly what I said during the season. So our scoring defense drops by 10 points, and our total defense drops by nearly 130 yards.

Either D'Onofrio has early onset dementia, or we felt the loss of the following players:

Sean Spence
Micanor Regis
Adewale Ojomo
JoJo Nicholas
Marcus Robinson
Andrew Smith
Olivier Vernon
Ray Ray Armstrong

Not exactly a murderers' row, but we due to the horrible 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, we didn't properly replace those guys.

Early in the season, we were playing with **** near Sun Belt talent on the d-line. Chickillo was the ONLY defensive end on the roster who had taken a collegiate snap at the position and he's a true sophomore.

Our defense was bound to be a train wreck last year.

Not exactly a murderers row, but a LOT better than what we had this year. With that group of Shannon malcontents, he was able to produce a very good defense with a new system they weren't entirely used to. Now imagine him with a roster full of depth, talent and experience?

Coach D isn't going anywhere.

which means he'll be leaving in short order since you're always wrong about who's leaving and who's not

 

[The Franchise]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

In other words, install more complicated blitz packages? Aren't most of his detractors saying he needs to simplify things and let the athletes run wild?

 

[Consigliere]

Right. But we never explored anything else. We were pretty steadfast in playing the Pro Bowl scheme. We'd throw a few poorly designed blitzes every now and then when were were desperate, but never really tried attacking and getting to the QB.

We actually blitzed a lot last year. We still couldn't get to the QB. And we often gave up big plays as a result. Pretty sure that 99 yard TD against Puke came on a blitz where a freshman was in coverage and got caught peeking in the backfield.

Agreed...also... the purpose of the blitz is to create an advantage on defense or a mismatch. When our front line was picked up (with ease) the mismatch becomes difficult to create and can be picked up by a RB/FB.

 

[rok]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

In other words, install more complicated blitz packages? Aren't most of his detractors saying he needs to simplify things and let the athletes run wild?

Seems to me that our blitzes work about 1/100 times they're called. I don't know what the solution is, I just know that our ability to blitz under Dorito has been a hi-**** display of inadequacy.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Our DC:

 

[Picksix]

When we did blitz, it was always the most obvious and deliberate attempt at blitzing. Would love to see Dorito kick it up a notch and add some spice to his daily menu of **** on a platter.

In other words, install more complicated blitz packages? Aren't most of his detractors saying he needs to simplify things and let the athletes run wild?

LOL...

[video=youtube;QDvQ77JP8nw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDvQ77JP8nw[/video]

 

[GhostofVenice01]

:ibisroflmao:




The line has CLEARLY been drawn between Dorito supporters vs Anti-Dorito fans

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

:ibisroflmao:




The line has CLEARLY been drawn between Dorito supporters vs Anti-Dorito fans

I'm one of the few still on the fence. I want to see improvement this year but I think some do go overboard with the criticism given what the guy had to work with last year. I do think this is a put up or shut up type of year for D'Onofrio though, assuming no injuries to our starters on the DL.

 

[WhatTheHell]

I wish this was our DC

 

[Consigliere]

I wish this was our DC

He is doing incredible things with the niners.

 

[Picksix]

We were a little bit better at the end of the year, but inconsistent. Injuries and inexperience still cropped up.

For example, in the Duke game, we gave up a 99-yard TD pass because a true freshman SS who hadn't played a lot blew a coverage. He got caught looking in the backfield and let a WR run right past him.

makes sense. like i said i wasn't trying to throw any shots or anything because i frankly haven't watched you guys as in-depth as most on here have. just saying i would be concerned the defense was seemingly not improved to end the year by giving up tons of yards and points to bad teams. even taking away that 99 yard pass they gave up 484 to duke in the last game of the year. that shouldn't be happening at miami.

We shouldn't be giving up big numbers to Duke, and it's indicative of how depleted we were in terms of talent and experience.

i would agree with the talent angle against teams like fsu, ksu, nd, and even to some extent unc, but duke, bcc, and uva? those guys were getting handled by teams with worse talent than miami. uva in particular barely scored against fcs teams, that can't all be talent. duke may have 2 players drafted at the max, miami's defensive unit will at least twice that much. i know you guys have some young talent that was inexperienced but by the end of the year they should have gained enough to play well. like i said, i don't know all the intricacies of your squad to break it down, but it would definitely be concerning. that can't all be a talent issue.

It's not always "talent". This idea of looking at talent in a vacuum is what makes fans looks like dopes. Clearly, guys like McCord, Kirby, Howard, Bush, Jenkins, Pierre, etc. obviously have talent. Ed Reed had talent too as a freshman and sophomore. But Ed Reed as a freshman wasn't the same guy that he was as a junior or senior.

Dudes get way too simplistic with the "we've got more talent" argument. Look at the DLine that was playing most of the year, and then tell me about talent. Look at the Safeties that took most of the reps and talk to me about talent or speed.

A young weak talented dude is usually going to get worked at a strength position by an older more experienced slightly less talented guy. Look at McCord and Terry getting ragdolled last year and then talk to me in a couple years when they're terrorizing QBs and giving OLinemen diarrhea.

So what you're saying is Miami has talent but the talent is young "not developed" and inexperienced "no playing time" therefor they weren't very good last year but will get better with seasoning?

You're crazy bro.... LOL! It's got to be because Dorito is no good...

 

[WhatTheHell]

 

[CanesAreAble]

:ibisroflmao:




The line has CLEARLY been drawn between Dorito supporters vs Anti-Dorito fans

I'm not even really a supporter. I just think people are too quick with the "fire the coach" solution.

A different coach can't turn Darius Smith into Cortez Kennedy, Corey King into Russell Maryland, Tyrone Cornileus into Darrin Smith, or Kacy Rodgers into Bennie Blades. Them dudes just can't play.

Let's get some Jimmys and Joes, then worry about X's and O's.