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Any good analysis of what caused Guidry to lose it?

skeeter said:
Cribby, the defensive line imo was still fairly a good unit… A little disappointing after year went on, but obviously much bigger problems on the defense.

But it could have been better.

Were the kids we let walk to SMU an NIL issue? Or did Mario just not like these kids and encouraged them to leave? I mean Elijah Roberts ended up being a beast for them, and the other 2 played very well. It's a little big of a poor reflection if we thought they just weren't good enough. I'm not saying the other 2 were huge losses and we didn't have that level of player…But Harvey was a nice #3 end, and JHH is starter caliber.
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some were nil related , some were mad about PT and some were asked to leave.
 
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My biggest issue was how Mario preaches physicality and our defense was the furthest thing from physical. We couldn’t tackle in space, when we hit our guys typically got dragged for extra yardage. And as everyone pointed out we couldn’t even get lined up correctly.
 
Cribby said:
1. Bad recruiting
2. Bad development
3. Bad evaluations
4. Dumb players which means not being taught well
5. Got exposed as a DC after one year of playing at the highest level. It’s like offenses was sitting in the huddle and knew the plays.
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Got **** sometimes the truth hurts, but everything you said is spot on!! Players being dumb was the biggest issue for me.
 
Cribby said:
1. Bad recruiting
2. Bad development
3. Bad evaluations
4. Dumb players which means not being taught well
5. Got exposed as a DC after one year of playing at the highest level. It’s like offenses was sitting in the huddle and knew the plays.
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All of this. I would also add:
6. Lack of adjustments. How many times did teams attack same areas and players without him making changes?
7. Inability to disrupt offense’s and always reacted. We were a step behind in the first half nearly every game.
 
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SPFRcane said:
Got **** sometimes the truth hurts, but everything you said is spot on!! Players being dumb was the biggest issue for me.
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Football is no different than anything else that involves teaching. Some people are good at it and make it easier than others. A good coach / teacher can have a drastic impact on a player versus a bad teacher.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
You know why Mario can’t intervene with schematic changes? It’s because he’s not a schematic coach. He brings no value to coaching in that area. He cant help the defense figure things out like a Kirby, Lanning, Stoops, etc…..He cant tweak the offense like Kiffin, Harbaugh, **** Lashlee. (Not saying those coaches are perfect).

Mario has to stay out the way and ride the rollercoaster because he can’t help, outside of O-Line ****
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If that's the case where did the whole "he's meddling in the offense & forcing Dawson to run bro ball!" **** come from last year??
 
When something as simple as a running back flexing out of the backfield plunges our defense into pure chaos it has to be teaching deficiency. Dude single handedly derailed a potential championship season.
 
Cribby said:
Football is no different than anything else that involves teaching. Some people are good at it and make it easier than others. A good coach / teacher can have a drastic impact on a player versus a bad teacher.
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Do you or anyone else have insight into how much autonomy he gives his coordinators for staffing decisions? @DMoney
 
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I understand what you are saying but at the end of the day the game is the game and most if not all of these kids been playing it since child age. I understand the levels, terminology, schemes are more advance but sending players in motion should not do to us what it did. Also sometimes you gotta say F it I'm just gonna make a play.

I remember Ed Reed making plays just off instinct, alot of times it worked, but sometimes it did not...ie Penn St. in 99. The players from those teams made their coaches look alot smarter than they really were.

What about the basics like turning looking for balls when in coverage or knowing down and distance understanding leverage using the the sideline or funneling the play back inside for help for your teammates to make plays. We did none of that on a consistent basis. Is that teaching or is that just playing a game with confidence that you've been playing your almost entire life?
 
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SPFRcane said:
I understand what you are saying but at the end of the day the game is the game and most if not all of these kids been playing it since child age. I understand the levels, terminology, schemes are more advance but sending players in motion should not do to us what it did. Also sometimes you gotta say F it I'm just gonna make a play.

I remember Ed Reed making plays just off instinct, alot of times it worked, but sometimes it did not...ie Penn St. in 99. The players from those teams made their coaches look alot smarter than they really were.

What about the basics like turning looking for balls when in coverage or knowing down and distance understanding leverage using the the sideline or funneling the play back inside for help for your teammates to make plays. We did none of that on a consistent basis. Is that teaching or is that just playing a game with confidence that you've been playing your almost entire life?
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It’s all about what the coach focuses on. Saban pounds into kids head turn and find the ball. When you see the wr’s eyes get big and hands go up you know it’s time . It’s very easy to see a well coached db. They never panic , even when the ball is caught they stay chopping at the ball right through the ground. I’ve seen Bama and UGA cb’s rip the ball out going to the ground after it’s been caught too many times to count. Causing the incompletion.
 
Cribby said:
It’s all about what the coach focuses on. Saban pounds into kids head turn and find the ball. When you see the wr’s eyes get big and hands go up you know it’s time . It’s very easy to see a well coached db. They never panic , even when the ball is caught they stay chopping at the ball right through the ground. I’ve seen Bama and UGA cb’s rip the ball out going to the ground after it’s been caught too many times to count. Causing the incompletion.
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So when kids come to UM they turn into robots who are scared to play outside of the scheme (to a certain extent or within reason) or scared to make mistakes? Playing DB is the most I don't give a **** position in all of sports. You may get me this time but I will when the war!!
 
Canesfreak said:
Being constantly out leveraged at the LOs and always confusion by the defense where the offense utilized even the slightest bit of motion is more than just losing the 2 safeties.
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Did you not read the last sentence. We had objectively more talent than a bunch of defenses that performed better than we did. Did we have the best collection of talent in the country? No, but we definitely should have performed better and that’s on the staff.
 
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Scheme was exposed by poor players. Guidry refused to adjust and simple it down because smartest guy in the room. Recruited poorly and with a lack of effort. Ran the entire operation in a really messed up way, based on substitutions.

Yeah, sums it up.
 
ssvir said:
He coached safeties and picked his CB coach - the safeties were historically bad.
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Facts brother. The whole defense was bad, it starts up front with the big guys. If you can’t set the edge you’ll lose and that’s what we did. We should’ve had more losses tbh.
 
kyle_schick said:
I think the first few posters nailed it pretty well.

One issue is lack of accountability. Mario doesn't seem to intervene in any situation during the season. He hires people and let's them do whatever the **** the want.

A good head coach should be keeping his staff within the correct lane. Mario should have given Guidry course corrections throughout the season, but it's obvious that that didn't occur.

I dont think the defensive staff meshes well together. Mario hires yes-men who won't challenge him on things, instead of innovative guys who teach to the system.

I also wonder if the kids even go to practice sometimes. Damari Browns first rep coming back from injury a few weeks ago, he did a full 360 ballet spin on the line. Is that taught? Against ISU, #15 or #19 is literally running out of bounds trying to keep up with his WR. Is that taught?

Mario is famous for being a top recruiter. I really don't believe this at all. He gets highly rated players. Guys who are supposed "4 stars" but rarely pan out to being even G5 guys. He gets guys that the big schools passed on bc they did their homework.

As a result of him trying to keep the SFL highschool pipelines loyal, he sacrifices any semblance of intelligence/football IQ on his roster. There isnt any good fundamental ball down here. Its blitz the QB, run go routes, and 7 on 7. Kids like Bissainthe don't know where to line up after being in the program for 3 years. There's probably a huge chunk of the roster that's actually illiterate. Look at how many kids aren't ever put in front of a microphone or so interviews.

There's a lot of small issues that compound into bigger problems.
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Ah yes. Racism has entered the chat.
 
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