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Any good analysis of what caused Guidry to lose it?

kyle_schick said:
I think the first few posters nailed it pretty well.

One issue is lack of accountability. Mario doesn't seem to intervene in any situation during the season. He hires people and let's them do whatever the **** the want.

A good head coach should be keeping his staff within the correct lane. Mario should have given Guidry course corrections throughout the season, but it's obvious that that didn't occur.

I dont think the defensive staff meshes well together. Mario hires yes-men who won't challenge him on things, instead of innovative guys who teach to the system.

I also wonder if the kids even go to practice sometimes. Damari Browns first rep coming back from injury a few weeks ago, he did a full 360 ballet spin on the line. Is that taught? Against ISU, #15 or #19 is literally running out of bounds trying to keep up with his WR. Is that taught?

Mario is famous for being a top recruiter. I really don't believe this at all. He gets highly rated players. Guys who are supposed "4 stars" but rarely pan out to being even G5 guys. He gets guys that the big schools passed on bc they did their homework.

As a result of him trying to keep the SFL highschool pipelines loyal, he sacrifices any semblance of intelligence/football IQ on his roster. There isnt any good fundamental ball down here. Its blitz the QB, run go routes, and 7 on 7. Kids like Bissainthe don't know where to line up after being in the program for 3 years. There's probably a huge chunk of the roster that's actually illiterate. Look at how many kids aren't ever put in front of a microphone or so interviews.

There's a lot of small issues that compound into bigger problems.
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Mario is a clueless OL.... lacks the football IQ to correct any coach
 
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bacane said:
Good points. First, tough guy that he is, can’t recall Mario chewing anyone out in-game - coaches, players, official. Second, can’t believe Mario wasn’t sitting in on defensive staff meetings. Probably even offered suggestions, but nothing noticeably changed. Would also imagine he let his feelings known to Guidry away from the bright lights and probably would have fired his *** mid-season if he had a handy replacement.
That said, Mario is not Nick Saban or Kirby Smart - two of the sharpest defensive minds, especiallly as relates to secondary play.
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I don’t think you’re a “tough guy” if you chew out players in game. Argument could be made to the opposite honestly

You’re supposed to be tough in practice and preparation and our penalties and mental mistakes prove that it’s just not what goes on
 
janneke99 said:
Inability to adjust the defense to play conservative, bend/don't break defense of rushing 4, dropping 7 into Zone, keep everything in front of you and swarm to the ball to make tackles.

With our offense this is all we needed
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Just keeping it to FGs instead of TDs would have had us in the CFP... that's how dumb and irresponsible Mario and Guidry were... no difference or adjustments from game 3 to game 13
 
Truth is Guidry was always fools good, some of us on here called it out in 2023, he just looked slightly better that year because he had multiple nfl guys on the defense
mcnaire2004 said:
They weren't all that great in 23 either. Every offense with a pulse cooked them. Single handedly lost UNC and UL.

He didn't fall off a cliff. We were in wait and see in 24 because we couldn't tell if he was good or not.
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
James Williams is in the NFL
Kam Kinchens is in the NFL
Leonard Taylor is in the NFL
Te’Cory Couch is gone
Jaden Davis was drafted by the NFL
Mauigoa got slow
Bain was injured and never himself
Damari brown was injured in week 1
Elijah Alston was injured most of the season
Losing Harvey and JHH was ****-on at the time, but they’re both good players and would have helped a ton. Branson Deen as well.
Jaden Harris is in the conversation for worst Miami safety of all-time
The defense wasn’t nearly as good as some of you remember. It was WAY better than this year, obviously, but not great. People just hated Dawson because of TVD, but the offense was statistically better last season.
We can’t recruit DBs to save our lives to replace the kids above we lost
Opposing coaches now have power level film on Guidry

Bottom line, we lost several NFL players/very good players and replaced them with **** on toast. Going from Kam and James to Meesh and Harris is like leaving Bern’s and diving thru Arby’s. Guidry was clearly outclassed schematically, but his staff and Mario did him no favors by again providing Arby’s. The portal additions have stunk, the DB recruiting has been beyond nightmarish conditions and Guidry was clueless.
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Bern’s reference is gold.
 
kyle_schick said:
I think the first few posters nailed it pretty well.

One issue is lack of accountability. Mario doesn't seem to intervene in any situation during the season. He hires people and let's them do whatever the **** the want.

A good head coach should be keeping his staff within the correct lane. Mario should have given Guidry course corrections throughout the season, but it's obvious that that didn't occur.

I dont think the defensive staff meshes well together. Mario hires yes-men who won't challenge him on things, instead of innovative guys who teach to the system.

I also wonder if the kids even go to practice sometimes. Damari Browns first rep coming back from injury a few weeks ago, he did a full 360 ballet spin on the line. Is that taught? Against ISU, #15 or #19 is literally running out of bounds trying to keep up with his WR. Is that taught?

Mario is famous for being a top recruiter. I really don't believe this at all. He gets highly rated players. Guys who are supposed "4 stars" but rarely pan out to being even G5 guys. He gets guys that the big schools passed on bc they did their homework.

As a result of him trying to keep the SFL highschool pipelines loyal, he sacrifices any semblance of intelligence/football IQ on his roster. There isnt any good fundamental ball down here. Its blitz the QB, run go routes, and 7 on 7. Kids like Bissainthe don't know where to line up after being in the program for 3 years. There's probably a huge chunk of the roster that's actually illiterate. Look at how many kids aren't ever put in front of a microphone or so interviews.

There's a lot of small issues that compound into bigger problems.
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That sounds like a Miami problem, not so much a Mario one.
Same questions on football IQ ran all the way down to Randy Shannon and playing local favorites for recruiting.
This school is tough to manage I think.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
James Williams is in the NFL
Kam Kinchens is in the NFL
Leonard Taylor is in the NFL
Te’Cory Couch is gone
Jaden Davis was drafted by the NFL
Mauigoa got slow
Bain was injured and never himself
Damari brown was injured in week 1
Elijah Alston was injured most of the season
Losing Harvey and JHH was ****-on at the time, but they’re both good players and would have helped a ton. Branson Deen as well.
Jaden Harris is in the conversation for worst Miami safety of all-time
The defense wasn’t nearly as good as some of you remember. It was WAY better than this year, obviously, but not great. People just hated Dawson because of TVD, but the offense was statistically better last season.
We can’t recruit DBs to save our lives to replace the kids above we lost
Opposing coaches now have power level film on Guidry

Bottom line, we lost several NFL players/very good players and replaced them with **** on toast. Going from Kam and James to Meesh and Harris is like leaving Bern’s and diving thru Arby’s. Guidry was clearly outclassed schematically, but his staff and Mario did him no favors by again providing Arby’s. The portal additions have stunk, the DB recruiting has been beyond nightmarish conditions and Guidry was clueless.
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Realize the money these coaches are making?
They are robbing us blind. If you have a problem or lack of talent then do something about it quickly. An entire season was lost due to not pivoting at all. This is on Mario just as much as anyone else.
 
We had a bunch of NFL guys that declared that masked a lot of our deficiencies last year. Guidry/Mario was unable to find quality replacements specifically at Safety and corner. However, my opinion is that we should have had a great to borderline elite defense last year and an average to good one this year with a competent coordinator.

The fact that we were just good last year and awful this year is on Guidry.
 
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Cknucks305 said:
We had a bunch of NFL guys that declared that masked a lot of our deficiencies last year. Guidry/Mario was unable to find quality replacements specifically at Safety and corner. However, my opinion is that we should have had a great to borderline elite defense last year and an average to good one this year with a competent coordinator.

The fact that we were just good last year and awful this year is on Guidry.
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Being constantly out leveraged at the LOs and always confusion by the defense where the offense utilized even the slightest bit of motion is more than just losing the 2 safeties.
 
kyle_schick said:
I think the first few posters nailed it pretty well.

One issue is lack of accountability. Mario doesn't seem to intervene in any situation during the season. He hires people and let's them do whatever the **** the want.

A good head coach should be keeping his staff within the correct lane. Mario should have given Guidry course corrections throughout the season, but it's obvious that that didn't occur.

I dont think the defensive staff meshes well together. Mario hires yes-men who won't challenge him on things, instead of innovative guys who teach to the system.

I also wonder if the kids even go to practice sometimes. Damari Browns first rep coming back from injury a few weeks ago, he did a full 360 ballet spin on the line. Is that taught? Against ISU, #15 or #19 is literally running out of bounds trying to keep up with his WR. Is that taught?

Mario is famous for being a top recruiter. I really don't believe this at all. He gets highly rated players. Guys who are supposed "4 stars" but rarely pan out to being even G5 guys. He gets guys that the big schools passed on bc they did their homework.

As a result of him trying to keep the SFL highschool pipelines loyal, he sacrifices any semblance of intelligence/football IQ on his roster. There isnt any good fundamental ball down here. Its blitz the QB, run go routes, and 7 on 7. Kids like Bissainthe don't know where to line up after being in the program for 3 years. There's probably a huge chunk of the roster that's actually illiterate. Look at how many kids aren't ever put in front of a microphone or so interviews.

There's a lot of small issues that compound into bigger problems.
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This post is one contradiction after another. Do better.
 
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JHallCanes said:
I don’t think you’re a “tough guy” if you chew out players in game. Argument could be made to the opposite honestly

You’re supposed to be tough in practice and preparation and our penalties and mental mistakes prove that it’s just not what goes on
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That’s fair. Not suggesting a crazed sideline idiot, but a touch of emotion and not so distant.
 
kyle_schick said:
I think the first few posters nailed it pretty well.

One issue is lack of accountability. Mario doesn't seem to intervene in any situation during the season. He hires people and let's them do whatever the **** the want.

A good head coach should be keeping his staff within the correct lane. Mario should have given Guidry course corrections throughout the season, but it's obvious that that didn't occur.

I dont think the defensive staff meshes well together. Mario hires yes-men who won't challenge him on things, instead of innovative guys who teach to the system.

I also wonder if the kids even go to practice sometimes. Damari Browns first rep coming back from injury a few weeks ago, he did a full 360 ballet spin on the line. Is that taught? Against ISU, #15 or #19 is literally running out of bounds trying to keep up with his WR. Is that taught?

Mario is famous for being a top recruiter. I really don't believe this at all. He gets highly rated players. Guys who are supposed "4 stars" but rarely pan out to being even G5 guys. He gets guys that the big schools passed on bc they did their homework.

As a result of him trying to keep the SFL highschool pipelines loyal, he sacrifices any semblance of intelligence/football IQ on his roster. There isnt any good fundamental ball down here. Its blitz the QB, run go routes, and 7 on 7. Kids like Bissainthe don't know where to line up after being in the program for 3 years. There's probably a huge chunk of the roster that's actually illiterate. Look at how many kids aren't ever put in front of a microphone or so interviews.

There's a lot of small issues that compound into bigger problems.
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fans can't have it both ways ... first he's a micromanager, now he didn't police them enough ... i'm all for criticism, but atleast let there be a level of fairness ... and in fairness, guidry looked promising, he lost a few pieces to the league and couldn't reload and couldn't find a system to yield decent results ... and he got fired ... not sure what else mc could do
 
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Mr. Dynasty1 said:
You know why Mario can’t intervene with schematic changes? It’s because he’s not a schematic coach. He brings no value to coaching in that area. He cant help the defense figure things out like a Kirby, Lanning, Stoops, etc…..He cant tweak the offense like Kiffin, Harbaugh, **** Lashlee. (Not saying those coaches are perfect).

Mario has to stay out the way and ride the rollercoaster because he can’t help, outside of O-Line ****
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oline is pretty **** good tho ...
 
Cribby said:
1. Bad recruiting
2. Bad development
3. Bad evaluations
4. Dumb players which means not being taught well
5. Got exposed as a DC after one year of playing at the highest level. It’s like offenses was sitting in the huddle and knew the plays.
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Cribby, the defensive line imo was still fairly a good unit… A little disappointing as year went on, but obviously there much bigger problems on the defense.

But it could have been better.

Were the kids we let walk to SMU an NIL issue? Or did Mario just not like these kids and encouraged them to leave? I mean Elijah Roberts ended up being a beast for them, and the other 2 played very well. It's a little big of a poor reflection if we thought they just weren't good enough. I'm not saying the other 2 were huge losses and we didn't have that level of player…But Harvey was a nice #3 end, and JHH is starter caliber.
 
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