Any good analysis of what caused Guidry to lose it?

[IbzRlz]

LBer play was bad as well. Kiko's play fell off a cliff, Wes was average at best, and when coupled with DL play being below average with little pressure and the secondary, well we all know how that went...the perfect storm for the worst defense I've seen at UM in 40 years

 

[k9cane]

James Williams is in the NFL
Kam Kinchens is in the NFL
Leonard Taylor is in the NFL
Te’Cory Couch is gone
Jaden Davis was drafted by the NFL
Mauigoa got slow
Bain was injured and never himself
Damari brown was injured in week 1
Elijah Alston was injured most of the season
Losing Harvey and JHH was ****-on at the time, but they’re both good players and would have helped a ton. Branson Deen as well.
Jaden Harris is in the conversation for worst Miami safety of all-time
The defense wasn’t nearly as good as some of you remember. It was WAY better than this year, obviously, but not great. People just hated Dawson because of TVD, but the offense was statistically better last season.
We can’t recruit DBs to save our lives to replace the kids above we lost
Opposing coaches now have power level film on Guidry

Bottom line, we lost several NFL players/very good players and replaced them with **** on toast. Going from Kam and James to Meesh and Harris is like leaving Bern’s and diving thru Arby’s. Guidry was clearly outclassed schematically, but his staff and Mario did him no favors by again providing Arby’s. The portal additions have stunk, the DB recruiting has been beyond nightmarish conditions and Guidry was clueless.

well....when you put it THAT way...

 

[Coach Macho]

Not being lined-up has nothing to do with talent.

Interesting enough, when offenses don't give us pre-snap movement we usually fare pretty well.

 

[Lokest]

How is it racist to say we have dumb players?

Good job exposing your true beliefs lol.

That's not what you said and you know that. Why are you saying that a bunch of miami's players are likely illiterate?

 

[ALLoverCANE]

I thought he was “meddling” in 2023 though?

It's only "meddling" because it's ineffective. If he had any schematic ability whatsoever, it wouldn't be a problem. But he's so useless in this regard that it's best that he stay out of the way.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Not being lined-up has nothing to do with talent.

Interesting enough, when offenses don't give us pre-snap movement we usually fare pretty well.

This post is also true.

I was in a suite for the bowl game and I got a few strange looks when I started screaming “TEN MEN!” when Iowa State was about to score. Ask @Wake_Cane …

 

[hoops156]

Some wild stuff in here

I thought all college teams lose talent?

I thought the job of an elite recruiter was to have players ready to step in when we do?

Certainly an elite recruiter can replace practice squad NFL players right?

Marios evals are a larger issue really and also the unbalanced classes.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Not being lined-up has nothing to do with talent.

Interesting enough, when offenses don't give us pre-snap movement we usually fare pretty well.

Our secondary lacked solid talent for sure but the DC did them 0 favors, kept leaving them out on islands to get abused over & over again, kept putting our slow MLB in man coverage against scat backs & slot WRs, kept stunting & abandoning gap integrity, kept putting DEs in coverage, **** was TERRIBLE coaching. A good coach realizes what he has and adjusts his gameplan and scheme to maximize the available talent, offenses abused us with the same exact gameplan week after week it was ******* maddening

 

[Jassid82]

My biggest issue was how Mario preaches physicality and our defense was the furthest thing from physical. We couldn’t tackle in space, when we hit our guys typically got dragged for extra yardage. And as everyone pointed out we couldn’t even get lined up correctly.

Mario should have been taking notes last night... Al Golden and whoever the **** UGAs DC put on a master class of what a defense should look like. They looked like ole school Miami defenses. Fast, physical, violent at attack, gang tackling, very few blown assignments..just all around mastery..Thats what it should look like, Mario! You fixed the offense..bravo..now fix the defense.

 

[Xio]

Were people here not sucking him off last year?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Were people here not sucking him off last year?

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Did Guidry coach the higher-stats Miami side of the ball last year? Sure.

Was it a highly-ranked defense last year? No it was not.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Were people here not sucking him off last year?

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I was a fan last year, switching schemes mid year to a 3-3-5 was impressive. With that said there were signs, that Louisville game was the blueprint on how to expose him and he never adjusted. And this year was an unmitigated disaster. Even the Florida game where I thought the defense played well had a bust in the long td run.

 

[kyle_schick]

That's not what you said and you know that. Why are you saying that a bunch of miami's players are likely illiterate?

Combining what we know about modern public school/literacy rates, the complete lack of many of them being allowed to speak with the media, and their inability to even know how to line up on the field for 13 games per year/multiple years in the program, I'd say it's a fair assessment that alot of these kids probably read at a 5th grade level. Overall low IQ guys.

 

[Lokest]

Combining what we know about modern public school/literacy rates, the complete lack of many of them being allowed to speak with the media, and their inability to even know how to line up on the field for 13 games per year/multiple years in the program, I'd say it's a fair assessment that alot of these kids probably read at a 5th grade level. Overall low IQ guys.

You sure you want to call others Iow IQ?
You’re claiming that a bunch of 18-23 year olds pursuing degrees at the university of Miami are reading at a 5th grade level because they have restrictions on media appearances and part of a poor college defense?

Never mind I guess we found the problem. Pack this thread up

2023 defense: could read
2024 defense: can’t read

 

[WestGA'Cane]

The DL is an interesting case study, post-mortem. JHH had to be disgruntled re: playing time.

-#10 v JHH - wash? / slight adv. U

Guessing Nyjalik left due to PT, and Harvey was shown the door.

-Kelly & Harvey (surprisingly productive) v Barron & Alston (inj.) - L

The field at DT v Taylor & Deen - L

DB was a significant L. Additionally, the utter lack of development, in fact regression, at the 2nd level was detrimental.

Felt Guidry was comparable to Paul Johnson a few years ago at Ga.Tech. Once the book was out, it was a wrap.

 

[kyle_schick]

You sure you want to call others Iow IQ?
You’re claiming that a bunch of 18-23 year olds pursuing degrees at the university of Miami are reading at a 5th grade level because they have restrictions on media appearances and part of a poor college defense?

Never mind I guess we found the problem. Pack this thread up

2023 defense: could read
2024 defense: can’t read

I love old people who are:

1. Impressed with going to college and think it's impressive to sit thru classes, using AI to write papers, graduating bc you can't fail.

2. Think Div 1 football players actually go to class, actually do their own tests, actually do their own homework, actually write their own papers.

3. Think these recruits in highschool take their own SATs/ACTs.

Truly remarkable how out of touch with reality some of you morons are.

 

[The canesman]

Unfortunately $$$$ seems to be the only motivator for these kids. When you are looking around and see other team mates making more than you it haas to have a negative effect. Coaching is more difficult today. Motivational speeches are a thing of the past. I believe Saban saw what changes are coming to the game and decided it’s just too exhausting. The D underperformed all season they left it up to the money player to get the job done. We’ve had so many coaches with the same ****. We need players with more heart and loyalty than how many stars they have.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I love old people who are:

1. Impressed with going to college and think it's impressive to sit thru classes, using AI to write papers, graduating bc you can't fail.

2. Think Div 1 football players actually go to class, actually do their own tests, actually do their own homework, actually write their own papers.

3. Think these recruits in highschool take their own SATs/ACTs.

Truly remarkable how out of touch with reality some of you morons are.

Good job with the generalizations and assumptions.

Why don't you ask @Wake_Cane if our football players actually go to class, actually do their own tests, actually do their own homework, actually write their own papers.

Sure, you've got all the conclusions, but none of the actual observation or experience to prove it.

 

[kyle_schick]

Good job with the generalizations and assumptions.

Why don't you ask @Wake_Cane if our football players actually go to class, actually do their own tests, actually do their own homework, actually write their own papers.

Sure, you've got all the conclusions, but none of the actual observation or experience to prove it.

True. All assessments and assumptions.

I'll stand by what I said.

 

[JD08]

Good job with the generalizations and assumptions.

Why don't you ask @Wake_Cane if our football players actually go to class, actually do their own tests, actually do their own homework, actually write their own papers.

Sure, you've got all the conclusions, but none of the actual observation or experience to prove it.

Those must have been a Derrick Harris impersonator blocking my view in those classes.