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BoxingRobes said:
No idea.

Is Noland better? If Y...come play for the U. Are the other two better? Maybe. Then spend elsewhere.
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Respectable response. I'm not a Luke Nickel enthusiast(based upon his film). He is serviceable, but his arm strength isn't there and his accuracy doesn't make up for it (in my opinion). Judd is a project, but based upon his high school tape he is a B(at best project). Coleman is two years removed so I doubt it affects him at all, but he is another project. Coleman does have good arm talent though, he is just really small(in terms of height and weight).
 
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SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
You are going to be the same person on here crying when you find out Mateer has a no contact tag on him... You will also be the same person on here complaining if Air Noland ends up killing it somewhere else, meanwhile Emory is going 17/45 for 175 yards 0 TD (9 of the 17 being bubble screens).
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Cant lie our fans be funny asf with this **** poor Emory dude probably reading the board like im no lace it to other team every time till they put Judd in see whose laughin then🤣🤣
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
I will exit and never comeback if you can give any analysis whatsoever (based upon their senior/junior film) on why Luke Nickel is better than Air Noland. As a matter of fact, disregard the question. The statement alone tells me all I need to know about your the value of your opinion.
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Did you guys build Terry Porter a statue in Columbus???
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
Would you mind explaining to me the type of investment it would require with Nickel and Coleman(two prospects rated significantly lower out of high school than Air Noland) in the "pipeline"?
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The "rating" is irrelevant. How was Cam Ward rated out of high school? The staff obviously values both Nickel and Coleman. Plus I've already explained how Noland is still an attractive prospect. We went after him hard so the staff obviously loved him as well but he made his decision and that decision has consequences. Not saying that I would never the kid or that I don't like him, just that he may have missed his opportunity here.
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
No I'm not... Only time will tell, but I'm very confident Air Noland is more talented then every QB in The University of Miami's room. I'm also very confident that Mateer isn't going to enroll at the University of Miami. With that being said, if you would rather have a QB room with Emory Williams, Luke Nickel, and Judd Anderson over a QB room with Air Noland, Emory Williams, Luke Nickel, and Judd Anderson that's on you. The University of Miami's current QB room is absolutely garbage in my opinion. We would be fourtunate to win 8 games with this current roster and Emory at QB next year. It is what it is. I just don't want to hear any complaints about it when it happens.
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Nice strawman. I never said a thing about wanting EW, LN and JA over that room plus Noland. The comment was based on my preference of Mateer over Noland. Whether or not Mateer ends up coming here or your opinion that he doesn't come here is irrelevant to my preference of having Mateer over Noland. Of course of would rather add Noland to our QB room in a perfect world. I just don't think the staff is inclined to go in that direction.
 
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So The Matador is headed to Oklahoma and we are getting Air Noland? This is what I am gathering from all of this.

On a side note. Noland is a soft throwing lefty. He will fit right in on our Baseball team.
 
FrancisSawyer said:
Nice strawman. I never said a thing about wanting EW, LN and JA over that room plus Noland. The comment was based on my preference of Mateer over Noland. Whether or not Mateer ends up coming here or your opinion that he doesn't come here is irrelevant to my preference of having Mateer over Noland. Of course of would rather add Noland to our QB room in a perfect world. I just don't think the staff is inclined to go in that direction.
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The "strawman" I postulated is going to become a reality(in all likelihood) and it is definitely going to be a more likely occurrence then Mateer signing with Miami. In all actuality, my initial postulation is honestly based upon my lack of confidence that Mateer is actually in play. Like I previously stated, Mateer is definitely the better QB RIGHT NOW and he gives Miami the best chance to compete next year, but IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS I think getting Air Noland will ultimately be the better choice. The aforementioned statement is based upon my projection of Air Noland. If we bring him in and he hits we don't have worry about being in this same position next year(most likely). I have 0 confidence in our current QB room(with our current roster around them).
 
FrancisSawyer said:
The "rating" is irrelevant. How was Cam Ward rated out of high school? The staff obviously values both Nickel and Coleman. Plus I've already explained how Noland is still an attractive prospect. We went after him hard so the staff obviously loved him as well but he made his decision and that decision has consequences. Not saying that I would never the kid or that I don't like him, just that he may have missed his opportunity here.
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The rating isn't irrelevant when you are speaking about QBs with little to no sample size of starts in college. There is no respectable OC in the country that would tell you that Luke Nickel/Dereon Colemans tape is as good or better than Air Noland's. I'm not even a ratings person(especially with QBs) per se, but in this case the tape matches the rating.
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
The rating isn't irrelevant when you are speaking about QBs with little to no sample size of starts in college. There is no respectable OC in the country that would tell you that Luke Nickel/Dereon Colemans tape is as good or better than Air Noland's. I'm not even a ratings person(especially with QBs) per se, but in this case the tape matches the rating.
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I'm only using the ratings in this case because of the context around this specific player. He is one year removed from high school on the best roster in the country.
 
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jmcanes22 said:
So The Matador is headed to Oklahoma and we are getting Air Noland? This is what I am gathering from all of this.

On a side note. Noland is a soft throwing lefty. He will fit right in on our Baseball team.
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I just saw his highlights and was stunned he was a 5 Star everyone was fighting over.

Given their hit rate, the money it cost to recruit a 5 star QB out of high school is insane. I could see wanting pursue the right one in the portal but that doesn't appear to be this situation.
 
Dre said:
I just saw his highlights and was stunned he was a 5 Star everyone was fighting over.

Given their hit rate, the money it cost to recruit a 5 star QB out of high school is insane. I could see wanting pursue the right one in the portal but that doesn't appear to be this situation.
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Exactly. 3 million for Mateer? I would fold up the tent and head home. Just accept next year as a "Down Year" with Cario Mistobal. Save that money. I wouldn't waste it on Noland either. Tua has a stronger arm than he does.

We gotta do better recruiting the DB's and DEs in the future though. What's one more year no playoffs. I do feel bad for some of you who didn't get to experience the Canes in a NC either in person or on TV.

It was very fun!
 
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jmcanes22 said:
Exactly. 3 million for Mateer? I would fold up the tent and head home. Just accept next year as a "Down Year" with Cario Mistobal. Save that money. I wouldn't waste it on Noland either. Tua has a stronger arm than he does.

We gotta do better recruiting the DB's and DEs in the future though. What's one more year no playoffs. I do feel bad for some of you who didn't get to experience the Canes in a NC either in person or on TV.

It was very fun!
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I do think the move is develop guys like Nickel and then pay them the big dollars when they prove it. Unfortunately it appears we're a year behind because Emory and Judd don't inspire confidence.

Don't think Mario can afford to go 7-5 this year running with Emory so they may have to break the bank one more time on Mateer if he wants to be here. Recruiting was bad enough this year on a 10-2 Heisman finalist season.
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
Granted this is 18 year old 3-4 months removed from high school... So that's a 71.4 completion percentage, with 9.4 yards per completion, and 8.4 yards per rush. The int isn't good.. but again this is a true freshman at The Ohio St university. I'm not saying it's elite, but I am saying he was/is better then every QB on our current roster.
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I think you’re losing the point. I think a lot of people would take Air’s upside over anyone on the roster. I think he has real arm talent.

The problem is we need someone to play this year. Yes, if we could bring Air in as a future play that would be great but it doesn’t solve our primary issue which is who is playing quarterback at Miami this year. Can’t roll with a guy who hasn’t proven anything. So the idea that Air would be a better get than Mateer is where you lose me.
 
Dre said:
I do think the move is develop guys like Nickel and then pay them the big dollars when they prove it. Unfortunately it appears we're a year behind because Emory and Judd don't inspire confidence.

Don't think Mario can afford to go 7-5 this year running with Emory so they may have to break the bank one more time on Mateer if he wants to be here. Recruiting was bad enough this year on a 10-2 Heisman finalist season.
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An 8-4 season warms up his seat significantly. 9 wins raises eyebrows.
 
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Felonious Monk said:
An 8-4 season warms up his seat significantly. 9 wins raises eyebrows.
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If we can stop gap and Luke Nickel is that guy after a year of acclimation then we're in a good spot. But yea, even the biggest Emory supporters (I'm a moderate fan) can't believe this is a 10 win team with him.
 
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TwentySix said:
I think you’re losing the point. I think a lot of people would take Air’s upside over anyone on the roster. I think he has real arm talent.

The problem is we need someone to play this year. Yes, if we could bring Air in as a future play that would be great but it doesn’t solve our primary issue which is who is playing quarterback at Miami this year. Can’t roll with a guy who hasn’t proven anything. So the idea that Air would be a better get than Mateer is where you lose me.
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We are ultimately going to have to roll with a guy that hasn't proven anything. Again, in the immediate sense(the micro) I'd rather have Mateer. But like I said, in the grand scheme of things(macro) I'd rather get Air. Like others have stated, I would love to get both. I just can't see Mateer coming to Miami. To many factors are in OU's favor. On field we are the better choice but he probably has the confidence that he will be successful regardless of where he goes.
 
Felonious Monk said:
An 8-4 season warms up his seat significantly. 9 wins raises eyebrows.
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In any other "Blue Blood" school I would agree with you. But the way Miami is run, would they put Cario on the hot seat with a 8-4 or even a 7-5 record? He's a part of the Columbus crew. He's one of their own.

Don't get me wrong. I think Cario wants to win. I also think Dan Campbell for Detroit wants to win. They just f*** things up when it matters the most. Not in a million years is he on the hot seat.
 
SWORNTOTHESTORM said:
Respectable response. I'm not a Luke Nickel enthusiast(based upon his film). He is serviceable, but his arm strength isn't there and his accuracy doesn't make up for it (in my opinion). Judd is a project, but based upon his high school tape he is a B(at best project). Coleman is two years removed so I doubt it affects him at all, but he is another project. Coleman does have good arm talent though, he is just really small(in terms of height and weight).
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You gotta be related to Noland...Or dont watch film Noland is probably better than Judd thats it Coleman and Luke is Big time ballers
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