SouthCak Cane
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He is going to be the biggest steal in the draft easily. The guy has been proving everyone wrong all his life. Wish nothing but the best for him!
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BoxingRobes
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Patrick is going to have FOUR defensive lineman drafted this year. Chubb, Kentavious Street, BJ Hill, and Justin Jones...all showed out to varying degrees in the combine.
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Yeah, well, they’re full of ****!
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I was astonished with his bench press due to the fact he's an amputee..but my Lord that 40 for a LB..that's who I want picked at #30 now...
MainLineCane
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So did McIntosh workout yet?
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weak showing by canes. talent gap still huge.
Sweet is 250lbs
Yeah and some guys in here think he is overrated and Walton is close to him as a prospect. Did the same dumb song and dance with Cook and Yearby too.
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He doesn't have the bend around the edge to be a sack machine.
In his prime he'll line up over the RT and shut down the run, racking up 8-10 sacks a season (on a good team).
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Must have went to the same HS as Josh Jobe.
4.5-4.6 at that size? Electronically timed? Cocaine is a great drug!
4.93 is really impressive for him.
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Chad will be in the leagu for a long time. He’ll probably be one of those DEs that avg. 7-8 sacks/yr. Hes definitely not a 1st rounder, imo, but a 3rd rounder. Here’s hoping to my Bears reaching for him in the 2nd since they blew their 3rd round pick for Trubisky. Smh.
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Coach Macho
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Surprised Chad is that heavy. I figured he was in the high 260's.
His forty time was nothing special but I thought he looked great in the LB drills. Showed good knee bend and changed direction smoothly.
I'm really curious about the role he's going to play at the next level. He's never had the natural lean/bend/twitch to be a pass rush specialist IMO. He's a few pounds away from having ideal measurements for a 3-4 DE. (which is ironically what Golden wanted to do with him)
He might find his niche as a DT in pass rush packages.
His forty time was nothing special but I thought he looked great in the LB drills. Showed good knee bend and changed direction smoothly.
I'm really curious about the role he's going to play at the next level. He's never had the natural lean/bend/twitch to be a pass rush specialist IMO. He's a few pounds away from having ideal measurements for a 3-4 DE. (which is ironically what Golden wanted to do with him)
He might find his niche as a DT in pass rush packages.
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WEAKNESSES
Hasn't figured out how to use his hands yet and will need more schooling in that area. Leads with his torso and shoulders and is there to be punched by tackles.
**** Coach Kul!
Hasn't figured out how to use his hands yet and will need more schooling in that area. Leads with his torso and shoulders and is there to be punched by tackles.
**** Coach Kul!
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Overall, its been an underwhelming combine performance for our guys. My summary:
- Braxton Berrios measured in as like the shortest wr (had good weight for his size) with like the shortest arms. At least he had average hand size. put up a below average bench number, especially for having short arms (though he's only 184lbs, so 11 reps is solid I guess. And he didn't do any of the running (I think he would have done really well in the 3 cone, shuttle, and VJ). Missed opportunity due to injury.
- Our DTS Norton and McIntosh. Man I havent heard anything about them being hurt. So the fact that they didn't do any of the drills is straight up ***** ****. I got a feeling it was their ****** *** agent that convinced them not to do the drills because they're already "1st round picks" which is complete bs. They NEEDED to do all the drills. If they don't have a good excuse man...Mcintosh did literally nothing but get measurements. At least Norton ran the ******* 40 and did the BP putting up 30 which was really solid. They're lucky they had very good measurments. Mcintosh had excellent length (97th percentile wingspan). Honestly i didn't even realize McIntosh was that long. With his length, and relative lack of weight (14th percentile for a dt) I really think he's gunna end up being a 34DE at the next level, he has prototypical 5tech size. Norton Norton also had very good length, better weight and excellent hand size with almost 11" hands.
- Mark Walton did okay. Nothing great. Literally did below average (for RBs) for everything - from measurements to drills. However i don't think anyone really was expecting him to be some stud in the 40 or the jumps and ****, and we knew he was relatively short with solid thickness. Honestly comparing the two combines, Mark Walton basically was a SLIGHTLY less athletic Duke Johnson. Walton 5/8ths of an inch taller, 5lbs lighter, same arm length, same hand size, 4.60 40 compared to Dukes 4.54. Walton had a 31.5" vert to Dukes 33.5". and Walton had 118" Broad jump to Dukes 121". Crazy how close they were in everything. ...and both had ankle injuries. ...Duke went 3rd, but I think Walton might go 4th. Not a bad day for Walton, but not a good one either.
- Chris Herndon unfortunately is still rehabing from his injury. Idk if hes gunna be healthy enough at the Pro day?. but he put up pretty average to below average H/W/Arm Length. above average showing on the bench.
- Chad Thomas. Man Im the most disapointed with him. IDK why yall are saying he had a good day. once again another player that does not do the shuttle or 3cone drill. I really don't get why our DLineman didn't do everything today. The biggest question is why the **** he entered the combine at 281lbs. He was only ******* 5lbs lighter than Rj Mcintosh! Like I guess he is trying to show teams he can be a 34DE? I'm not really sure why he wouldn't want to perform between 270-275. His 40 time imo, directly suffered because of that. And no, a 4.91 40 is not good. What he should have done is come in 10lbs lighter. Great measurements, but Rj Mcintosh fits better as a 34DE than he does. Chad is half an inch taller, but is lighter, has slightly shorter wingspan/arm length/ and hand size. At least he did the VJ and BJ! Unfortunately the Vert was terrible (only 29" is bad for him). Broad jump was good though. Again if he was 10lbs lighter he would have done better. I don't get why its like he's positioning himself to be a 34de rather than a 43De. as a 43 DE he'd want to be 275lbs or less for sure. disappointing imo.
- Kc McDermott. Thank ******* lord we have at least one guy who isn't afraid to do all the drills. (Hopefully delaney will too, but CBs go tomorrow). he's most likely an OG in the NFL - lets hope he has the strength to hold up there, which im not sure he does judging by his time as an og here and only putting up 26reps. Problem with him as an OG is, he will need to be heavier than what weighted in at - 311lbs. He should have been like 330lbs tbh. And the reason OG is the better spot for him is because he has short arms - only 32". That would not do well at OT. Had a good 3cone drill time and a solid 40 time.
- Dee Delaney hasn't done drills yet. his measurements were a lil less than i would have though. came in at 5'11.5" which is above average, but he has really short arms (20th percentile)...so his overall length is average. Great weight to be a physical CB, and huge hands which will be great for him to jam. disappointing 13reps on the bench. 3 cone will be critical for him imo. He posts a good 3cone time for a 200lb cb and he could get himself drafted. The average 3cone time for CBs is 6.88s, so he's gotta beast that.....for the 40 and broad jump im hoping he gets 4.55-4.59 (though not sure he will), and 122" (10'2"). That would be a good performance for him.
spider charts:
Berrios
Mcintosh
Norton
Walton
Herndon
Thomas
Mcdermott
Delaney
- Braxton Berrios measured in as like the shortest wr (had good weight for his size) with like the shortest arms. At least he had average hand size. put up a below average bench number, especially for having short arms (though he's only 184lbs, so 11 reps is solid I guess. And he didn't do any of the running (I think he would have done really well in the 3 cone, shuttle, and VJ). Missed opportunity due to injury.
- Our DTS Norton and McIntosh. Man I havent heard anything about them being hurt. So the fact that they didn't do any of the drills is straight up ***** ****. I got a feeling it was their ****** *** agent that convinced them not to do the drills because they're already "1st round picks" which is complete bs. They NEEDED to do all the drills. If they don't have a good excuse man...Mcintosh did literally nothing but get measurements. At least Norton ran the ******* 40 and did the BP putting up 30 which was really solid. They're lucky they had very good measurments. Mcintosh had excellent length (97th percentile wingspan). Honestly i didn't even realize McIntosh was that long. With his length, and relative lack of weight (14th percentile for a dt) I really think he's gunna end up being a 34DE at the next level, he has prototypical 5tech size. Norton Norton also had very good length, better weight and excellent hand size with almost 11" hands.
- Mark Walton did okay. Nothing great. Literally did below average (for RBs) for everything - from measurements to drills. However i don't think anyone really was expecting him to be some stud in the 40 or the jumps and ****, and we knew he was relatively short with solid thickness. Honestly comparing the two combines, Mark Walton basically was a SLIGHTLY less athletic Duke Johnson. Walton 5/8ths of an inch taller, 5lbs lighter, same arm length, same hand size, 4.60 40 compared to Dukes 4.54. Walton had a 31.5" vert to Dukes 33.5". and Walton had 118" Broad jump to Dukes 121". Crazy how close they were in everything. ...and both had ankle injuries. ...Duke went 3rd, but I think Walton might go 4th. Not a bad day for Walton, but not a good one either.
- Chris Herndon unfortunately is still rehabing from his injury. Idk if hes gunna be healthy enough at the Pro day?. but he put up pretty average to below average H/W/Arm Length. above average showing on the bench.
- Chad Thomas. Man Im the most disapointed with him. IDK why yall are saying he had a good day. once again another player that does not do the shuttle or 3cone drill. I really don't get why our DLineman didn't do everything today. The biggest question is why the **** he entered the combine at 281lbs. He was only ******* 5lbs lighter than Rj Mcintosh! Like I guess he is trying to show teams he can be a 34DE? I'm not really sure why he wouldn't want to perform between 270-275. His 40 time imo, directly suffered because of that. And no, a 4.91 40 is not good. What he should have done is come in 10lbs lighter. Great measurements, but Rj Mcintosh fits better as a 34DE than he does. Chad is half an inch taller, but is lighter, has slightly shorter wingspan/arm length/ and hand size. At least he did the VJ and BJ! Unfortunately the Vert was terrible (only 29" is bad for him). Broad jump was good though. Again if he was 10lbs lighter he would have done better. I don't get why its like he's positioning himself to be a 34de rather than a 43De. as a 43 DE he'd want to be 275lbs or less for sure. disappointing imo.
- Kc McDermott. Thank ******* lord we have at least one guy who isn't afraid to do all the drills. (Hopefully delaney will too, but CBs go tomorrow). he's most likely an OG in the NFL - lets hope he has the strength to hold up there, which im not sure he does judging by his time as an og here and only putting up 26reps. Problem with him as an OG is, he will need to be heavier than what weighted in at - 311lbs. He should have been like 330lbs tbh. And the reason OG is the better spot for him is because he has short arms - only 32". That would not do well at OT. Had a good 3cone drill time and a solid 40 time.
- Dee Delaney hasn't done drills yet. his measurements were a lil less than i would have though. came in at 5'11.5" which is above average, but he has really short arms (20th percentile)...so his overall length is average. Great weight to be a physical CB, and huge hands which will be great for him to jam. disappointing 13reps on the bench. 3 cone will be critical for him imo. He posts a good 3cone time for a 200lb cb and he could get himself drafted. The average 3cone time for CBs is 6.88s, so he's gotta beast that.....for the 40 and broad jump im hoping he gets 4.55-4.59 (though not sure he will), and 122" (10'2"). That would be a good performance for him.
spider charts:
Berrios
Mcintosh
Norton
Walton
Herndon
Thomas
Mcdermott
Delaney
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Why the **** did he decide to perform at a 34de weight? I don't get why he wasn't 270lbs so that he could get better 40 and jumps, and still be at great height/weight ratio.
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Agree. I didn't wanna say anything and sound pessimistic but I agree with you. People think he had a great combine and I don't see it. By coming in at 280lbs, running slow and jumping poor, he basically solidified himself as a tweener. Like you said, he would've been better off coming in around 270.
I think he needs to drop some weight before his pro day.
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what are you even talking about?. Thats his weight and he carries it well. He has shown his versatility. He can Be a 3-4 end or a 4-3 strongside end with ability to move inside on passing downs. Chad even did the olb drills and looked smoother than ***n Arden Key who is like 220 pds. What the **** are you talking about. Chad is a mid round guy and a 40 time wasnt changing that. He did well at the Combine. At the end of the day...another Liberty City kid will be drafted in the top 3 rounds of the draft.
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