Woodrey needs to be moved..

[Jaromir Jagr]

When 12 good teams play against each other, there are going to be great games and they are going to beat each other because they are all good. Nothing about it is "random".

Proving once more that you don't know what random is.

Randomness is the lack of a pattern. Unpredictability. Variance.

That's exactly what you just described.

Again, that's for you stat guys. When we get slaughtered by Florida, it's because our pitching wasn't built for the big stage, not because of a "lack of pattern" or "unpredictability".

You're happy giving Morris a pass because you think that bad defense and absurdly poor clutch hitting are due to random events. And we have just been getting cold cards. Bad luck. Nothing you can do about it.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

My point is that there are more than four teams good enough to win it all.

And none of those teams win it either!

Virginia was nowhere close. Fresno State wasn't in the same galaxy.

You really need to reevaluate yourself.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

When 12 good teams play against each other, there are going to be great games and they are going to beat each other because they are all good.

Virginia was 21st in the RPI. They were 37th in the ISR!

They weren't a top 5% team. It's debatable whether they were even in the top 10% of the sport.

You're clueless.

Ouch, what a poor understanding of the sport. Virginia was pre-season #2 /#3. They hit a three week stretch in March and April when they couldn't throw strikes. That's what killed your precious computer rankings. But there was never any doubt about their talent.

You have really showed a lot about yourself by using Virginia as an example. They lost the national championship game the year before and had everyone back. Anyone who thinks that they snuck up on people in the post-season REALLY doesn't follow college baseball.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

My point is that there are more than four teams good enough to win it all.

And none of those teams win it either!

Virginia was nowhere close. Fresno State wasn't in the same galaxy.

You really need to reevaluate yourself.

Pre-season #2 /#3, coming off a #2 finish with almost the whole roster back.

Yeah, they came out of nowhere.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

You started with Fresno State, Arizona, and Virginia, and I have decimated two of those.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

By the way, Arizona was #8 and #13 in the human polls and #8 in the ISR BEFORE the post-season began. It's anyone's guess as to how you are using them to make your already flimsy point about randomness.

They were 14 in the RPI and 8 in the ISR. They weren't a national seed and nobody picked them to win it pre-tournament.

You could have had 5, 6, 7 choices and you never would have picked them. That's the definition of unpredictable.

By the way they also avoided playing a # 1 or # 2 seed until Omaha. Here was their path.

4-seed Missouri
3-seed Louisville
3-seed Louisville
3-seed St. John's
3-seed St. John's

Amazing how that works, huh? The team with the easiest path wins the championship much more often than the 'best' team.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

The problem is your starting point. You begin with the idea that "Jim Morris is a phenomenal manager".

Will you stop talking about Jim Morris already?

This is about the broader concept of randomness. Forget Jim Morris. Try to understand the basic concept. Let's talk about Fresno State, Virginia and Arizona.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

So now you're cherry picking when you apply the ISR as a legitimate tool for determining the best team. Arizona being #8 certainly puts them in the mix and shows that they have no business being in your Super Duper random list that has now been whittled down to 1.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The problem is your starting point. You begin with the idea that "Jim Morris is a phenomenal manager".

Will you stop talking about Jim Morris already?

This is about the broader concept of randomness. Forget Jim Morris. Try to understand the basic concept. Let's talk about Fresno State, Virginia and Arizona.

We can talk about Fresno State. The other two don't apply.

But I like how you're trying to now take this off Jim Morris, as though he hasn't been the center of our entire discussion. Slick. But it shows that you know that you backed yourself in the corner.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

When we get slaughtered by Florida, it's because our pitching wasn't built for the big stage, not because of a "lack of pattern" or "unpredictability".

The Canes are 12-6 vs. the top 20. That's the most wins in the country.

We actually played 3 games against said team and didn't get slaughtered. But if we play them in June and do get slaughtered you will chalk it up to the 'big stage' like all morons do.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Because his postseason career consists of 150 games at Miami.

In other words not a small sample size.

You keep falling back on 2 or 3 games in one postseason. It's silly and everybody knows it.

"His"? Who is he? I thought this wasn't about Jim Morris?

Funny how you tried to quickly get out from under that rock.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

When we get slaughtered by Florida, it's because our pitching wasn't built for the big stage, not because of a "lack of pattern" or "unpredictability".

The Canes are 12-6 vs. the top 20. That's the most wins in the country.

We actually played 3 games against said team and didn't get slaughtered. But if we play them in June and do get slaughtered you will chalk it up to the 'big stage' like all morons do.

But the really smart people think it's just "random" that we consistently lose to good teams in the post-season. "But...but...we played them real close in February!!! And......TUITION!!!!"

It's pathetic that you now think like a Gator and celebrate playing someone close in week three while brushing the post-season aside.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

. Virginia was pre-season #2 /#3. They hit a three week stretch in March and April when they couldn't throw strikes.

A 3-week stretch?

They went 15-15 in the ACC over a 3 month period. They went 34-22 over the entire regular season.

The only thing they had going for them was postseason experience and then they got absurdly lucky in the draw.

Again you're clueless.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

You have really showed a lot about yourself by using Virginia as an example. They lost the national championship game the year before and had everyone back. Anyone who thinks that they snuck up on people in the post-season REALLY doesn't follow college baseball.

Oh yeah.

37th in the ISR and .500 in conference play. They were an obvious pick, right?

The idea that Virginia was an obvious pick to win the national championship is so absurd that it's embarrassing even for somebody like you.

They did sneak up on people because nobody picked them and no metric picked them!

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Pre-season #2 /#3, coming off a #2 finish with almost the whole roster back.

Pre-season rankings don't mean anything.

What a stupid argument.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Yeah, they came out of nowhere.

Who picked them to win?

Who even intimated that they might have an outside shot?

Nobody!

Yet you're on here claiming that they were an obvious choice.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

You started with Fresno State, Arizona, and Virginia, and I have decimated two of those.

Anybody who thinks Virginia was a chalk pick is a clown.

Period.

Anybody who thinks a non-national seed who's borderline top 10 is a shoe-in is also a clown.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

So now you're cherry picking when you apply the ISR as a legitimate tool for determining the best team.

What are you talking about?

I always cite the ISR.

No you're back to just making stuff up.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

We can talk about Fresno State. The other two don't apply.

A 21 RPI and 37 ISR team doesn't apply.

That says all we need to know about you.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

. Virginia was pre-season [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] /#3. They hit a three week stretch in March and April when they couldn't throw strikes.

A 3-week stretch?

They went 15-15 in the ACC over a 3 month period. They went 34-22 over the entire regular season.

The only thing they had going for them was postseason experience and then they got absurdly lucky in the draw.

Again you're clueless.

Oh my. You are just outing yourself. Anyone who watched the season knows that Virginia hit a wall right in the middle. You, of course, can only think in terms of their entire season and how their RPI ended up. Baseball people knew that they had the talent the entire time. If you'll notice, that team that had no shot took two of three from Jim "February" Morris and then ended by sweeping UNC on the road.

#2 pre-season coming off a #2 finish, but they weren't good enough to win the championship. You never cease to amaze around here.