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JD4 said:
Lol people could’ve said the same thing about Kirby Smart when he was at Bama that Saban is a defensive guru specifically DBs.

Let’s give the coaches a little more time before we start saying they’ve failed

Also, Mario got a late start since he joined us later than other new coaches did. He hired guys who come from successful programs and with that, bring legitimacy.

Hard pill to swallow for us canes fans, but our program was a joke outside of Miami and people didn’t take us seriously. He’s doing it first class and has managed to bring it the best staff we’ve had from top to bottom in 20 years.

If they weren’t the best hires he can fix it later, but when people say “strikes” they mean three mistakes and then he’s gotta go. This isn’t the kind of thing where you even start to think about firing him over.

He’s literally the most qualified coach we could’ve gotten and he only came here because he played here and won Natty’s here. He’s turning our program around and making us legit.

“strike one is on Mario for hiring the runner up of the recruiter of the year award who comes from defending champs Georgia and Broyle’s award winner Gattis from Michigan after their best season in decades”

I can’t with some of the entitled and dumb **** y’all say

Progress is incremental
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I didn't say it, I quoted someone that said it

there's a difference
 
paksat said:
I didn't say it, I quoted someone that said it

there's a difference
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I think they might be mistakes but coaches make bad hires. I disagree most with you saying it is "strike 1" because you're saying he's a third of the way from being fired.

If they end up being duds, I give him the benefit of the doubt and not holding it against him based off the resume they had when he hired them and the time he had to hire his guys
 
JD4 said:
I think they might be mistakes but coaches make bad hires. I disagree most with you saying it is "strike 1" because you're saying he's a third of the way from being fired.

If they end up being duds, I give him the benefit of the doubt and not holding it against him based off the resume they had when he hired them and the time he had to hire his guys
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nope we don't have time for this ****

he's getting paid millions of dollars to be a top tier head coach at this level. I can't just sit back and say, "well we didn't know, and he didn't know, so on to the next."

how many times we gonna repeat that line?
 
paksat said:
nope we don't have time for this ****

he's getting paid millions of dollars to be a top tier head coach at this level. I can't just sit back and say, "well we didn't know, and he didn't know, so on to the next."

how many times we gonna repeat that line?
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Lol

This man threw us a fcking lifeline when he came and forced the admin to commit to the program. We aren't getting a bonafide HC when everyone thinks our program is a fcking joke which they did. Hitting on an up and coming coach can take years and keep setting us back further

Progress takes time dopey

Be happy things are moving in the right direction.
 
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JD4 said:
Lol

This man threw us a fcking lifeline when he came and forced the admin to commit to the program. We aren't getting a bonafide HC when everyone thinks our program is a fcking joke which they did. Hitting on an up and coming coach can take years and keep setting us back further

Progress takes time dopey

Be happy things are moving in the right direction.
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hes getting paid 80 mill lol. it aint like he came for free. they're getting paid extremely well (gattis, Mario, etc.) to come here and coach.
 
FFS at all of this 🙄... but why not I guess?

You're not worried about Gattis, you're worried about Mario.

An OC is an identity hire. The guys who hired Pat Nix and Dan Enos may have missed that, but there is no way Mario did.

He will always want a team that can impose its will and be physically taxing on an opponent, that means running the ball first and foremost. If you've not been listening to the man at all, that is MC's top offensive priority, and he and Gattis are aligned there. Air raid boys make your peace with it now.

For years we've made excuses like, "saving it for X," "don't have the player(s) Y," etc, but things like spreading teams outside the hashes, running RPOs, etc. are identity comments. Teams that do them, do them every week against all opponents. They make it work whether or not they have all the perfect pieces.

Not having Rambo may limit the effectiveness of certain concepts, but we aren't thus far even attempting to threaten we are going to try. That, IMO, is a factor in TVD locking on early or going through his progressions slowly. He also isn't fully tuned in with Gattis yet either, which is fair.

All that being said, these guys have a ton of tape on what TVD does really well, and the kid is vocal AF, by all accounts. It's early enough to adjust if your them, and way too early to be ****y if you're us.

Tomorrow is a **** good test to learn how well they can accomplish what they want, and build upon what your QB has shown he can do. We can accomplish both.
They'd be idiots to not lean on TVD, he's our best player.

If we come out like we did against Clemson two years ago and play in some, "don't lose" bubble, I'll be ****ed at Mario, not Gattis.
 
Southern Oz said:
Agree. And every offensive system works, it just depends if you have the cattle or not. It feels like the margins in the enos and Gattis systems are smaller, and if they don’t adjust to personnel (see Jarren Williams under centre 7 step drops with a bad Oline) then it gets ugly quick.

I am happy to be wrong, and we aren’t going to truely know for a few years . I guess I’m just going on record saying I’m not a Gattis believer and we aren’t going to see a top 20 offence under him (and Mario) at the end of any year. Even with a TVD at QB.
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You are correct. We need the horses on oline which we are on the way to building and we now are deep in the qb room. We also have a good stable of backs and tight ends.

It’s not an exciting offense but it is efficient and does stress the defense to defend the whole field. Now if we can get a vertical threat to compliment the rest.
 
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hoops156 said:
also for some reason people think we've been calling for the full air raid. dont think anyone has even said that. lashlee didnt even run an air raid. he used air raid concepts but he was more of a gus guy. we can run a better passing offense while still running the ball. no one is saying flip it completely. you have a heisman worthy QB, you use him. if it means throwing it 30-40 times a game so be it. egos can be swallowed if it leads to wins.
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Hypothetically - tomorrow, we run the ball 45x and throw it 20. Win 17-10.

In that case a lot of fans would have to “swallow their egos,” right?
 
bshaw28 said:
How people feel about Richt now is completely different. At the start of 2016 he was "rejuvenated" and going to turn Kayaa into a 1st Rd draft pick.

I have more confidence in Gattis for sure - but he also had more horses on Offense outside of QB. Nico Collins & Donovan Peoples-Jones are now starting NFL WR's. His OL - Cesar Ruiz (1st RD) Jaylen Mayfield (2nd RD) James Hudson (4th RD) was more talented. RB's Hassan Haskins (4th RD) & Zach Charbonnet (Possible Day 2) were more talented.

I'm just always of the opinion players > coaches. Concepts are great - but without the players to run it, it doesn't mean much.
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Nobody knew Richt was in the early stages of Parkinson’s. I was HIGHLY critical of Richt for that 4 game skid in 2016, especially his play calling at VaTech. It was obvious what needed to be done and when he did it, we finished the year on a win streak.
JD4 said:
TBH, I remember seeing Michigan fans saying Gattis hadn't done a great job first couple years and they thought since he had more help and less responsibility the offense improved, which might be true and he might not be a great coach for us.

This might have been a bad hire by Mario, but you don't start talking about throwing Mario out when his"bad hires" come late in the season when options are limited, at a new school that everyone has lost respect for, and the guys you poached just got the ****king award for best coordinator in the country (even if it was a fluke he freaking won it) and the #2 recruiter in the nation coming from the defending champs.

It isn't like he poached these dudes for upgraded roles lol. They're doing the same things they were at Michigan and Georgia where they were successful. Tell me those places have more talent and more infrastructure or whatever--well guess what people, that is what he's trying to build, and if you can't see the progress he's made or the changes to the program already idk what to tell you.

You don't become Georgia overnight. He hired guys with good resumes from premier programs on short notice. Even if they turn out to be duds I won't hold it against him. No one bats 1000%
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Michigan’s offense was decent in 2019. They got dominated at the line against some of their better opponents, but were a high scoring team most of the season. Watch the Wisky game and tell me what Gattis could have done about that.

2020 covid year was rough, but it was six games. A lot of weird stuff happened all over the country and the B1G only played half their games after reversing their decision to cancel. Patterson was no Peyton Manning but he was all world compared to the guys who were left. I wouldn’t draw to many conclusions after that season.

Harbaugh HAD TO do whatever he could because his seat was getting really hot. They dramatically increased the run game attempts and it worked with rpo, pa, and the occasional deep shot. Gattis wanted to pass like he did at Bama but he didn’t have anyone up to the task.

Could we at least give the guy half a season before we run him out of town?
 
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DTP said:
I watched a lot of Michigan games and while I wasn’t crazy about the Gattis hire, he has A LOT more in his play book than what we’ve seen. He used the RPO heavily at Michigan and I don’t think we’ve run a single RPO this year yet.
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This is what I keep telling people.

The 2019 games give a better picture about what he wants to do.
 
TruCane81 said:
Nobody knew Richt was in the early stages of Parkinson’s. I was HIGHLY critical of Richt for that 4 game skid in 2016, especially his play calling at VaTech. It was obvious what needed to be done and when he did it, we finished the year on a win streak.


Michigan’s offense was decent in 2019. They got dominated at the line against some of their better opponents, but were a high scoring team most of the season. Watch the Wisky game and tell me what Gattis could have done about that.

2020 covid year was rough, but it was six games. A lot of weird stuff happened all over the country and the B1G only played half their games after reversing their decision to cancel. Patterson was no Peyton Manning but he was all world compared to the guys who were left. I wouldn’t draw to many conclusions after that season.

Harbaugh HAD TO do whatever he could because his seat was getting really hot. They dramatically increased the run game attempts and it worked with rpo, pa, and the occasional deep shot. Gattis wanted to pass like he did at Bama but he didn’t have anyone up to the task.

Could we at least give the guy half a season before we run him out of town?
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Yeah I'm not trying to run anyone out or be able to say all along I knew they'd fail blah blah

Give the guys a chance lol
 
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hoops156 said:
hes getting paid 80 mill lol. it aint like he came for free. they're getting paid extremely well (gattis, Mario, etc.) to come here and coach.
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If they weren't getting paid then they aren't the right guys lmao

When you're good they pay you to do it

Mario will raise us up to a place where people might want to coach sometime again but that hasn't been the case
 
So if we don't hire Lashlee back this fanbase won't be happy with anybody that likes to run the ball? yall knew this when you wanted Mario so badly. He is a run first coach. Period. Dumbasses
 
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