Well this certainly doesn’t sound great

[WeBallinBoyz]

This is the stupidest take.

Smart took over a loaded UGA roster that was firing their coach because he couldnt win the NC not because his teams were bad.

Day took over loaded OSU roster from Urban Meyer in a transition over power meant to keep OSU humming.

You should add Dan Lanning to your list... he took over a loaded roster from.... oh wait nvm

Smart and Day walked into fantastic situations.

Cristobal had to start FIU from the ground up. Literally.

There's no way you're serious right now.

Lanning didn’t take over a loaded roster, he gutted a **** ton of it and used the portal

God a lot of you don’t know ball. It’s so funny and sad at the same time.

But I know Zane’s post history, nothing factual will change his mind. Oldham I at least respect because he’s a premier league guy.

 

[Zanecane]

best season in 2 decades and still got outcoached by a really bad and injured GT team

Got out coached by a really bad and injured GT team and it's still our best season in two decades.

Exact same words but I guess its how you choose to frame it.

We are going to keep improving the floor of the roster. Thats going to improve our ceiling.

 

[swat1]

I've said this 100x and it's never mentioned in these recruiting threads...UM is also recruiting against being in an absolute **** conference while having to recruit against the big brand teams. I personally believe UM will not win another NC until they can get on a level playing field conference wise. The vast majority of top end talent are going SEC/B1G.

 

[OldhamA]

Lanning didn’t take over a loaded roster, he gutted a **** ton of it and used the portal

God a lot of you don’t know ball. It’s so funny and sad at the same time.

But I know Zane’s post history, nothing factual will change his mind. Oldham I at least respect because he’s a premier league guy.

I'm a Championship guy. Blackburn Rovers play in the second tier.

 

[hoops156]

Got out coached by a really bad and injured GT team and it's still our best season in two decades.

Exact same words but I guess its how you choose to frame it.

We are going to keep improving the floor of the roster. Thats going to improve our ceiling.

i didnt expect this many holes on our roster (that were masked by Cam and the offense) 3 years in. its unacceptable especially the DL where the "elite" talent is and its painfully average at best.

 

[hoops156]

I've said this 100x and it's never mentioned in these recruiting threads...UM is also recruiting against being in an absolute **** conference while having to recruit against the big brand teams. I personally believe UM will not win another NC until they can get on a level playing field conference wise. The vast majority of top end talent are going SEC/B1G.

lets beat GT first and then worry about battling with the big brand teams. we gotta start taking care of the teams we should beat with ease.

 

[JHallCanes]

I think the staff is changing its ways in some ways. Look at 2026, for example. However, In the past, we have reached on a lot of kids that not many schools were truly interested in or aren’t really moving the needle to build a program. I feel we take on too many “projects” who normally are 3 star players because the staff thinks they can coach these kids up. I hope I am dead wrong but I don’t believe it’s working. For example, the Ray Ray’s, CJ’s, Robby’s/Bobby’s, Harris, Wes, Chase, etc. are mid players, thus far.

Looking ahead, I suspect (wink wink) we are going to hit the portal hard for next season on numerous positions because certain staff members are concerned about certain rooms. In year 4, I am surprised this is the case under Mario. Eventually, this program will need to be built through HS. The 2025 class, although talented in some positions, is a tad disappointing considering the season we are having.

I’m actually in complete agreement but most people aren’t ready to hear certain things

On one hand I can see the work we’ve been doing about to payoff in 2026 (hopefully) and the portal has been improving as well

On the other hand I was never a fan of the Mario hire but I can acknowledge that his slow building plan is just that. Slow. It takes a few years to look back but it’s been mixed at best

Doesn’t mean I’m sitting here going “relax guysm it’s fine” but a couple years ago everyone here was sucking Lincoln Riley’s **** for the quick turnaround and now look at them

Anyway. My concern is losing the best QB Miami has ever had next year and people thinking we have a roster capable of carrying a “game manager” at QB are insane but….

 

[PSU Cane]

This is the stupidest take.

Smart took over a loaded UGA roster that was firing their coach because he couldnt win the NC not because his teams were bad.

Day took over loaded OSU roster from Urban Meyer in a transition over power meant to keep OSU humming.

You should add Dan Lanning to your list... he took over a loaded roster from.... oh wait nvm

You might want to go back and look at what Lanning did to that roster after he took over....including the OL.

Each of those guys recruited well as a coordinator AND brought something to those teams schematically. Mario has to win recruiting/culture wars bc he doesn't win on gameday. That's the biggest difference....well that and the bankrolls of those universities. Mario needs to continue winning enough on the trail and in the portal and supplementing that with hitting on coordinators.

 

[Hurracanes]

I’m actually in complete agreement but most people aren’t ready to hear certain things

On one hand I can see the work we’ve been doing about to payoff in 2026 (hopefully) and the portal has been improving as well

On the other hand I was never a fan of the Mario hire but I can acknowledge that his slow building plan is just that. Slow. It takes a few years to look back but it’s been mixed at best

Doesn’t mean I’m sitting here going “relax guysm it’s fine” but a couple years ago everyone here was sucking Lincoln Riley’s **** for the quick turnaround and now look at them

Anyway. My concern is losing the best QB Miami has ever had next year and people thinking we have a roster capable of carrying a “game manager” at QB are insane but….

Not that my opinion is relevant but I do want to go on record by saying I believe Mario is the right man for the job. He has already impacted this program in ways most people can see. It’s not a matter of if but when with Mario. To your point, when you’re fixing this program from inside out, it’s a slow process.

That being said, I expect some changes to be made with this staff but there is one (non coach) who plays a major role with recruiting I hope to see leave. That may rub some folks here the wrong way but it’s how I feel. Fortunately, for them, it’s unlikely Mario lets him leave.

 

[swat1]

lets beat GT first and then worry about battling with the big brand teams. we gotta start taking care of the teams we should beat with ease.

That's been the story for the last 20yrs

 

[Calinative]

The Oregon’s, OSU’s, Texas, etc, gap between us isn’t getting smaller. Texas lost 2 RB’s and they aren’t missing a beat. Georgia safety room is elite. I can go on.

Going into year 4, I don’t see us reloading with HS prospects, especially in certain key rooms. I’m just saying, this is concerning.

Why wouldn't the results gap match the money gap...

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

You're better than this.

Ha..I'm really not.

But all I'm really saying is let's see if kids like Justin Scott and Jones and Trader and Carr and Lightfoot etc etc are difference makers or not before we decide we need to hit panic buttons on certain positions. These are all really highly rated kids. But that doesn't have anything to do with of course we need to continue to stack talent, especially at DB. I think that doesn't even need to be said, it's fully understood. But it it an absolute must we land multiple DL prospects this year that are instant impact guys? If the 2024 class are busts, it sure is. But we can't say that either way yet by any means.

 

[Hurracanes]

Why wouldn't the results gap should match the money gap...

No idea what you said but I concur.

 

[JHallCanes]

Not that my opinion is relevant but I do want to go on record by saying I believe Mario is the right man for the job. He has already impacted this program in ways most people can see. It’s not a matter of if but when with Mario. To your point, when you’re fixing this program from inside out, it’s a slow process.

That being said, I expect some changes to be made with this staff but there is one (non coach) who plays a major role with recruiting I hope to see leave. That may rub some folks here the wrong way but it’s how I feel. Fortunately, for them, it’s unlikely Mario lets him leave.

Yep again totally agree

Didn’t like the hire at first but I like what I’ve seen after the initial issues with the staff. Hiring guys like Dawson and going and getting guys like Cam, those flew a bit in the face of what I thought about him

No one cares more about the program than him and he’s been given the resources to see the plan through. We are still paying meaningful games and FSU is a ******* disaster and UiF ain’t much better

Maybe for some it’s a low bar but I don’t care. I’m happy in general even if there’s some things that **** me off here and there

 

[305407cane]

Gabinos a hedge guy over hype guy. Keep that in mind

 

[Dwinstitles]

@Dwinstitles been preaching the wins thing for years

They keep ignoring evidence, worst detectives would be on cis. No homicides solved all killers running loose. Pause

 

[cway313]

Ha..I'm really not.

But all I'm really saying is let's see if kids like Justin Scott and Jones and Trader and Carr and Lightfoot etc etc are difference makers or not before we decide we need to hit panic buttons on certain positions. These are all really highly rated kids. But that doesn't have anything to do with of course we need to continue to stack talent, especially at DB. I think that doesn't even need to be said, it's fully understood. But it it an absolute must we land multiple DL prospects this year that are instant impact guys? If the 2024 class are busts, it sure is. But we can't say that either way yet by any means.

I've witnessed you author many 300 threads. "Elite" is used far to carelessly around here. Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, Dylan Stewart I would even be comfortable putting OJ Frederique in that group. I disagree with most of what you wrote but I'll wait to see how the season unfolds.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I've witnessed you author many 300 threads. "Elite" is used far to carelessly around here. Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, Dylan Stewart I would even be comfortable putting OJ Frederique in that group. I disagree with most of what you wrote but I'll wait to see how the season unfolds.

Man, you're talking about a high *** bar. Those are probably three Top 5 overall draft picks. Not OJ, the other 3 from the other schools. I'm not talking about dissecting the word elite, if you feel those are elite players, they certainly are, and if you're ONLY going to say those types of kids are elite, then yeah we probably aren't going to have a lot of elite kids. But it's just an adjective. In terms of actual talent, if you guys think we're going to land kids like Ryan Williams every year and if we don't, it's a failure or we can't win, I don't really know what to tell you. Those kids are like if a unicorn **** out an even shinier unicorn. These are NFL Hall of Fame type talents. Legit some of the best true freshmen players I've ever seen in my life. **** yeah, we should be pushing for all these kids, and we should expect to get one here or there. But my point is, we literally signed the best DL class in the country last season, ON PAPER. Which means nothing, of course, but you have to give those kids a chance to develop. They're not all going to be Dylan Stewart. Very, very, VERY few are. Those kids could very well be All-ACC or All-America type players, or they could be JAG. We literally do not know right now. That's really my entire point. But yeah, we gotta see how it goes into next year before we draw any conclusions. JMO.

 

[cway313]

Man, you're talking about a high *** bar. Those are probably three Top 5 overall draft picks. Not OJ, the other 3 from the other schools. I'm not talking about dissecting the word elite, if you feel those are elite players, they certainly are, and if you're ONLY going to say those types of kids are elite, then yeah we probably aren't going to have a lot of elite kids. But it's just an adjective. In terms of actual talent, if you guys think we're going to land kids like Ryan Williams every year and if we don't, it's a failure or we can't win, I don't really know what to tell you. Those kids are like if a unicorn **** out an even shinier unicorn. These are NFL Hall of Fame type talents. Legit some of the best true freshmen players I've ever seen in my life. **** yeah, we should be pushing for all these kids, and we should expect to get one here or there. But my point is, we literally signed the best DL class in the country last season, ON PAPER. Which means nothing, of course, but you have to give those kids a chance to develop. They're not all going to be Dylan Stewart. Very, very, VERY few are. Those kids could very well be All-ACC or All-America type players, or they could be JAG. We literally do not know right now. That's really my entire point. But yeah, we gotta see how it goes into next year before we draw any conclusions. JMO.

I don't think we need 22 elite players. I just feel it is irresponsible to throw around the label. For instance the 23' class landed us 1 starter. He is certainly in the discussion for elite but what else? Upgrading the on field product has to be the only goal. Kids are transferring at the highest rate of all time and it won't be slowing down with the forecasted rule changes.
The '24 class may end up great but we have seen 2 players log meaningful snaps and they have produced 7 tackles and 1 sack. What you are proposing is that we can pick and choose where.to address team needs based off previous years recruiting rankings. We took Samson 2 years ago and at best he would be OT3 next year. That is a very strange way for an "ELITE" recruiter to manage roster construction.
If you believe us having 5* Marquise Lightfoot means we are set at DE for next year, I fundamentally disagree. JMO

 

[TemplarCane]

My lack of confidence is more on staffing, less on recruiting. Second and third-year players still play fundamentally poor ball, especially on defense.

Bad evaluations? Bad coaching? Bad scheming? All of the above?