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Hurracanes said:
My bad. This is what I get for multi tasking.
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I was kind of asking at the same time. The homies that follow me on social in real life know I’m in 1,000 different places right now as well

So I was making sure because that’s the message I was trying to convey. I can’t stand when people keep harping on having a Top 5 class last year. It was a really good class but it’s getting overplayed a bit
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
I don’t think you’ve ever said anything negative about Miami ever, but there’s no way you’re comparing Mario to DeBoer and Kirby right?

DeBoer is 111-14 in his career as a HC.

Smart is 101-18.

Even Ryan Day is 63-9 despite doing more with less.

Mario is 83-73.

There’s no way you’re serious right now 😂😂
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I never said Mario was better than those coaches. My point was they wouldn't be great without talent. Im a Jimmies and Joes guy more than a "coach em up" guy.

But you think all their starting places were even? You sound like those ignorant FSU fans saying Mario wasnt good because he was a .500 career coach. Context matters.

Mario took over a winless pathetic FIU program. Then an Oregon program that had sunk to a 4 and 7 win season, and was devoid of talent. Then he took over Manny Diaz Miami program as we all know that had major issues.

Ryan Day took over Ohio State who was 49-6 in 4 years prior.

Kirby took over UGA who was 40-13 prior 4 years, had 2nd best team in 2012 behind Alabama.

As I mentioned earlier Washington had major talent. I like Deboar great coach, but he wasnt getting to the playoff without that elite talent.
 
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JayCane20 said:
All depends on how elite he actually is in the intangibles. Measurables aren’t great.

I think Coleman is the QB of the future in terms of guys we’ve taken from HS. Maybe Emory between next year and 2027 when he’s ready. Obviously portal is an option and I expect that to be the answer
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Yeah I've had a couple people tell me his measurables are lacking. They also questioned his arm strength. He doesn't have a weak arm, but the deep ball is never going to be a strength.

I'm not an Emory guy at all. Love the intangibles. But there are too many limitations. Even in high school. Not one high school coach I talked to told me they thought he'd start at Miami.

Anythings possible I guess. Maybe Nickel his a late growth spurt, Emory's arm gets significantly stronger, and Judd ____ (Idk where to start).
 
JayCane20 said:
Don’t really care where it’s ranked but I do know they better figure it out at DT and CB and land something else at DE.

Not a fan of several of our commitments and hope they plan on dropping the 2 Orlando OL because they’re not good.

Antoine was my favorite player in the class and he’s coming off an undisclosed injury (to my knowledge), Wallace is gonna be a while, and you’re gonna lose Merritt and Upshaw and I like both of them.

After what I’ve seen on the field I’m even more concerned at LB because you’re bringing in more of the same.

I feel good about TE and RB. WR is fine. Love SJ and Buchanan. I think Nickel is solid but I’m not sure where his ceiling is at. Pretty low probably. Big fan of Scroggins but he’s a couple years away and that’s all you have at DE. Very very low on Ewald, Fitzgerald, and Simpson. Don’t think they can play here. Again, more of the same at CB with guys that don’t run that well and more of the same at safety with kids that prove on a weekly basis that they can’t tackle, even at the HS level, except for Stubbs.

It would take dropping 5-6 of those guys and flipping several to make me feel good about the class overall regardless of the ranking.

Falling behind the big boys continues. Let’s see what we do in the portal because there’s tons of holes and no fix in sight. Not going to be fixed with true freshman anyway. Need to fill holes with guys that have 2-3 years of eligibility
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Agreed 1000%. Much better put than my post over the weekend.
 
It was never about winning. Honestly Mario probably goes harder recruiting when he’s winning 7 games. He better get back on the saddle or next year will be fun (not fun)
 
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TheEye said:
It is? Where were we ranked in Nov last year?
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A couple of things: (1) ESD has been moved up by 16 days. So the closer comparison is "where were we ranked 11/27 w/ only 2 more weekends (bye and WF) for visits"? (2) the idea that Mario all of a sudden flipped the world in a week is false. Mario was closing recruits for closer to 2.5 months, with ESD being the break of the wave.

Here are the c/o 2024 recruits who committed 10/1/23 or later:

Carr 10/8
Pickett, Jr. 10/19
Bell 11/3
McConathy 11/15
Scott 11/29
Lyle 12/18
Blount 12/20
Hayes 12/20

Here are the c/o 2024 recruits committed since 9/1/2024 to present (with ESD now 22 days away):

Moore 10/8
Toney 10/28 (I'll list him even though he was committed for a year, decommitted for a few weeks, then re-committed)

And to answer your question, on 11/15/2023, our 2024 recruiting class was ranked 11th. Mario has time, but the board and the landscape looks a good deal worse than it did last season.
 
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JHallCanes said:
I was kind of asking at the same time. The homies that follow me on social in real life know I’m in 1,000 different places right now as well

So I was making sure because that’s the message I was trying to convey. I can’t stand when people keep harping on having a Top 5 class last year. It was a really good class but it’s getting overplayed a bit
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I think the staff is changing its ways in some ways. Look at 2026, for example. However, In the past, we have reached on a lot of kids that not many schools were truly interested in or aren’t really moving the needle to build a program. I feel we take on too many “projects” who normally are 3 star players because the staff thinks they can coach these kids up. I hope I am dead wrong but I don’t believe it’s working. For example, the Ray Ray’s, CJ’s, Robby’s/Bobby’s, Harris, Wes, Chase, etc. are mid players, thus far.

Looking ahead, I suspect (wink wink) we are going to hit the portal hard for next season on numerous positions because certain staff members are concerned about certain rooms. In year 4, I am surprised this is the case under Mario. Eventually, this program will need to be built through HS. The 2025 class, although talented in some positions, is a tad disappointing considering the season we are having.
 
NPBCANE4 said:
Ohio State Head coach, Alabama Head coach, Competent LSU head coach, Competent Texas head coach. Those Schools will out perform Mario 8/10 times with the right coach. Doesn't matter if Mario is "better" than them. They will outperform him. Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Hugh Freeze to name a few more. I think Mario is a very good recruiter. I think we will get 5-8 classes consistently. I just dont think he should be given the crown as King or should be expectation year in year out. Hes never been that guy.
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“Mario isn’t a top 4 recruiter”
“Who’s better?”
“Generic coach at top schools, doesn’t matter if they’re actually better recruiters”

Incredible.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
I don’t think you’ve ever said anything negative about Miami ever, but there’s no way you’re comparing Mario to DeBoer and Kirby right?

DeBoer is 111-14 in his career as a HC.

Smart is 101-18.

Even Ryan Day is 63-9 despite doing more with less.

Mario is 83-73.

There’s no way you’re serious right now 😂😂
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Smart and Day walked into fantastic situations.

Cristobal had to start FIU from the ground up. Literally.

There's no way you're serious right now.
 
Zanecane said:
We're a top 12 team in the country. You think he put us at a talent disadvantage? You don't think every team has weaknesses?

Vocal minority of the fanbase sounding like entitled front runners. Expecting the team to be undefeated or it's a huge disaster. As if 100+ teams aren't trying to win the same prize.

This season has been our best in 25+ years. We'll be competitive every year if we continue to recruit at this clip.

What coach that would actually come to Miami is going to get us better high school / portal classes? I'm genuinely curious...
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best season in 2 decades and still got outcoached by a really bad and injured GT team
 
Hurracanes said:
I think the staff is changing its ways in some ways. Look at 2026, for example. However, In the past, we have reached on a lot of kids that not many schools were truly interested in or aren’t really moving the needle to build a program. I feel we take on too many “projects” who normally are 3 star players because the staff thinks they can coach these kids up. I hope I am dead wrong but I don’t believe it’s working. For example, the Ray Ray’s, CJ’s, Robby’s/Bobby’s, Harris, Wes, Chase, etc. are mid players, thus far.

Looking ahead, I suspect (wink wink) we are going to hit the portal hard for next season on numerous positions because certain staff members are concerned about certain rooms. In year 4, I am surprised this is the case under Mario. Eventually, this program will need to be built through HS. The 2025 class, although talented in some positions, is a tad disappointing considering the season we are having.
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I share the worry here. Feels like we’re building year to year ala fsu and not building a program ala UGA. Hope I’m wrong!!!
 
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OldhamA said:
Smart and Day walked into fantastic situations.

Cristobal had to start FIU from the ground up. Literally.

There's no way you're serious right now.
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you are what your record says you are. mario will always lose a game or 2 he shouldnt even tho he has a talent advantage at oregon and here because he isnt the greatest game day coach. his DC cost him a shot at his best season ever as an HC.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I don’t think you’ve ever said anything negative about Miami ever, but there’s no way you’re comparing Mario to DeBoer and Kirby right?

DeBoer is 111-14 in his career as a HC.

Smart is 101-18.

Even Ryan Day is 63-9 despite doing more with less.

Mario is 83-73.

There’s no way you’re serious right now 😂😂
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This is the stupidest take.

Smart took over a loaded UGA roster that was firing their coach because he couldnt win the NC not because his teams were bad.

Day took over loaded OSU roster from Urban Meyer in a transition over power meant to keep OSU humming.

You should add Dan Lanning to your list... he took over a loaded roster from.... oh wait nvm
 
What’s making players harder to flip? Are they getting advances that they don’t want to pay back? It does look like there won’t be a major head coach getting fired that will shake up the carousel. Also early signing day means no late OV or in home visits.
 
Gocanes1990 said:
I share the worry here. Feels like we’re building year to year ala fsu and not building a program ala UGA. Hope I’m wrong!!!
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The Oregon’s, OSU’s, Texas, etc, gap between us isn’t getting smaller. Texas lost 2 RB’s and they aren’t missing a beat. Georgia safety room is elite. I can go on.

Going into year 4, I don’t see us reloading with HS prospects, especially in certain key rooms. I’m just saying, this is concerning.
 
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