Todays scrimmage

[DJWilliams55]

Shayon is a good kid. He will be a fine captain cheering his teammates on from the bench. Talent plays. It's not personal.

The Profit needs to play.

 

[nycane]

its a scrimmage. you have qb's who know the defense cant put a beating on them.its not real pressure.

 

[DiegoCane]

Over analyzing a scrimmage no one saw. I'm shocked.

 

[jnw4563]

I hope coach Golden making coach D's life very uncomfortable until this defense proves itself, even thought they are close friends. I hope Golden can separate work & friendship, because Miami will not tolerate many more 7-5 years because of the defense. He will be on the hot seat if that happens because we are not a 7-5 program. We are used to winning big in Miami.

 

[UM58]

As long as Highsmith and Rodgers are getting significant playing time we will give up big plays. Not picking on them but they're pretty bad. And truth be told Jenkins hasn't exactly set the world on fire..

Fact of the matter is our defense was beyond terrible last yr. if we can become at least average to slightly above average ill be happy and we should be in the hunt for 10 wins and a shot at the ACC title.

As someone mentioned earlier, the secondary is still young. They're going to give up big plays.

Fine, but don't let them have a 100% 3rd and long conversion rate, nor a 8 yard average on first down, because we are afraid of giving up a big play.

Our problem is that by playing ten yards off the ball, we give bad QBs who couldn't make a big play if their family was held hostage, the chance to make uncontested 10 yard tosses all day long.

Make clowns from UNC, UVA and the like beat us, don't give them 15 yard completions in order to stop "the big play".

No argument here

 

[The Franchise]

The hate for green is stupid. He is not a rush end. Not all DEs are rush ends. He is solid at what he does.

Now highsmith is a different story

No one hates Green. Green is just a bad player. Great guy. Bad player. As for him not being a rush end that's absolutely the truth. He's not a rush end because he can't get to the passer. If he could, then he'd be a rush end.

You saw what this D did last year with a bunch of guys who couldn't get to the passer. 11 can get to the passer, and so can AQM. That is what this defense needs.

Shayon Green isnt a bad player though????

Sure he is. Watch the games and quit quoting his tackle stats to me where he humped piles 10 yards down the field. He'll be decent as a bit player and an emotional leader this year. That'll be a role in which he will excel.

I dont have to quote stats.... those plays 10 yards up field were made b/c he had too when other players along the dline and at the lb position where either out of position or constantly getting washed out of the play.

He was the only d-lineman holding the point of attack and thats why the coaches like him and thats his job... the d-end position isnt only about getting sacks. He didnt have the step to get a sack last year b/c he wasnt yet fully healthy from his knee injury. I expect him to get a couple sacks this year but thats not his job, his main job is to contain and stop the run.

LULZ at this myth about him "holding the point of attack". Just because he can't rush the passer doesn't mean he's great at holding the point of attack. Go re-watch that ND game and focus on the TE from ND single-blocking Green down the field like he was on skates. The TE is not supposed to handle your DE like that, but he did because Green wasn't big enough, strong enough or athletic enough to do anything about it.

You know why the corches love him? Because he's got an incredible attitude and is a super tough sumbytch. He's a coach's dream. He just can't play a lick, and that's why were so desperately trying to bring in DEs this year.

I'm done with this because it just gets stupid and repetitive. If you think Green's a standout player, then that's cool. Stick with that. 11 and 98 or whoever else can play will eat up most of his reps this year though, and the proof will be in the pudding.

 

[eleganttomcat]

I love Malcolm Lewis, I love Quan, I love McCord, I love Coley, I love Artie, I love Jamal, I love Deon, I love Tracy, I ******* LOVE DUKE (obviously), I love Morris, I honestly ******* LOVE this entire team. And this freshman class is full of absoute studs. Absolute ballin' studs.

This team has a great identity and I can't wait for it to be revealed this season. Golden is a walking legend boys. Lets enjoy the ride. This staff is unreal. I wouldn't trade Golden for Saban or any other coach in the country nor would I trade our roster for any single other roster in the entire country.

Hows that for homerism rokukila? I'm serious too bro.

 

[zone3cane]

'Preciate what you do magilacuty and Udaman.

My pleasure. I appreciate when others do it so this was just my chance to reciprocate.

Having gotten home from the scrimmage, I had a chance for to reflect further on what I saw. For what it's worth:

- Offense: I did not see very much to criticize with the first team. The results speak for themselves. However, I would say that we should prepare ourselves for more streaky offensive performances. There were quite a few explosive "chunk" plays but fewer methodical drives than I would have expected. There is still a significant stepdown from Morris to Williams. Williams rattles more easily in the pocket and throws more errant passes. Crawford and Clements should be serviceable as back-ups but at least in the scrimmage I saw more upside with Clements. He is a tougher runner than Crawford.

I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the defense:

DE: We saw a lot of McCord, Gilbert and Muhammad. And while they may have been feasting on the 2nd string OL particularly in the second half they generated a good outside rush, tipped a few passes and were otherwise active. Even Kelvin Cain got in for a cameo with a tipped ball. Despite Chick's absence my impression was that this was an improved and deeper group. Gilbert was the most intriguing addition to me because he is not just quick but also polished. (If I had to compare him to a former Cane I would say Wally Ojomo heading into his senior season.)

DT: Excluding the plays were Duke duked, Porter, Pierre and Robinson were very stout against the inside run. And dare I say that the DTs helped collapse a few pockets on passing downs (moreso in the second half). I was also impressed with Kamalu. He sacked Williams once I believe and held up at the point of attack well. Renfrow got burn as well but was not memorable.

LBs: LBs were likewise good defending the run but continue to be non-existent against the TE in the flats and the RB screen. Gaines was his usual steady self. Perryman got a lot of burn even in the second half when Gaines had taken off the pads. Figatron had some nasty tackles on Crawford and Clements and (I believe) he's the one who sent Mo Hagens to the bench. Other than that, did not see many LB plays that stood out.

CBs: A competent but unspectacular performance from this group. At one point I noticed Crawford actually picked up Duke motioning out of the backfield on a designed wheel route (where has that been the past few years?). And TH3 contested a few balls. But the CB that stood out the most was Artie Burns. He tackles with authority and he made a great break on a well-placed pass to Herb Waters from Morris to bat it away. What our CBs cannot do is run stride for stride with Phillip Dorsett on a go route for 50 yards. Which means they need safety help and...

Safeties are a **** show. Bush did not play but was suited up. KC, Highsmith and Rayshawn got the majority of the snaps. And the combination of Hurns, Coley and Lewis out of the slot abused them. This is partially a function of the quality of the receivers but as others have noted a sign that we are still deficient here. Jamal Carter got in towards the end of the game and wrapped up well on a tackle of Clements but if that was the only memorable play from the safety position then we are in trouble.

Hope this is of help for those that weren't there. August 30th can't come soon enough. Go Canes!

The good thing is how many teams on our schedule has a receiver as fast as Phillip Dorsett??? maybe FSU's young guys Jesus Wilson and Kermit Whitfield but they are true freshman... its not like we have to worry about getting torched on go routes for the most part.

Also the safety position is terrible w/o Deon Bush back there.... thats why i lol when ppl call Rayshawn Jenkins "special." He still has a long way to go and I think Miami should consider Deon Bush and Jamal Carter as the two starters at safety during the season.

Everything else sounds good and the d-line imo with the late additions have improved even greater then i expected them to be at this point from last season, which is obviously positive.

 

[zone3cane]

Shayon is a good kid. He will be a fine captain cheering his teammates on from the bench. Talent plays. It's not personal.

The Profit needs to play.

LOL what is it about rotations dont you all seem to understand?? You think AQM and everybody else isnt going to play b/c Green is also going to play???

 

[UMprodigy]

safety position scares the **** out of me!

biggest weakness on the team, hands down. can't wait to see kacy tomorrow.

 

[zone3cane]

No one hates Green. Green is just a bad player. Great guy. Bad player. As for him not being a rush end that's absolutely the truth. He's not a rush end because he can't get to the passer. If he could, then he'd be a rush end.

You saw what this D did last year with a bunch of guys who couldn't get to the passer. 11 can get to the passer, and so can AQM. That is what this defense needs.

Shayon Green isnt a bad player though????

Sure he is. Watch the games and quit quoting his tackle stats to me where he humped piles 10 yards down the field. He'll be decent as a bit player and an emotional leader this year. That'll be a role in which he will excel.

I dont have to quote stats.... those plays 10 yards up field were made b/c he had too when other players along the dline and at the lb position where either out of position or constantly getting washed out of the play.

He was the only d-lineman holding the point of attack and thats why the coaches like him and thats his job... the d-end position isnt only about getting sacks. He didnt have the step to get a sack last year b/c he wasnt yet fully healthy from his knee injury. I expect him to get a couple sacks this year but thats not his job, his main job is to contain and stop the run.

LULZ at this myth about him "holding the point of attack". Just because he can't rush the passer doesn't mean he's great at holding the point of attack. Go re-watch that ND game and focus on the TE from ND single-blocking Green down the field like he was on skates. The TE is not supposed to handle your DE like that, but he did because Green wasn't big enough, strong enough or athletic enough to do anything about it.

You know why the corches love him? Because he's got an incredible attitude and is a super tough sumbytch. He's a coach's dream. He just can't play a lick, and that's why were so desperately trying to bring in DEs this year.

I'm done with this because it just gets stupid and repetitive. If you think Green's a standout player, then that's cool. Stick with that. 11 and 98 or whoever else can play will eat up most of his reps this year though, and the proof will be in the pudding.

LOL you sound ridiculous... Shayon Green is one of the strongest and biggest players on the team, wtf r u talking about? You mention one play of one game when the entire defense was terrible to make a stupid point like that smh wow. How about the fact that Shayon and Chickillo had to play so many reps b/c there was nobody behind him that can come in and share the load, you do know that will wear anybody down right??? .... i'm guessing you dont.

i dont think he's a standout player either, and other guys will rotate they arent getting "his reps" do you understand football?? i need to ask you that before i continue debating w/ you about this subject.

 

[UM58]

'Preciate what you do magilacuty and Udaman.

My pleasure. I appreciate when others do it so this was just my chance to reciprocate.

Having gotten home from the scrimmage, I had a chance for to reflect further on what I saw. For what it's worth:

- Offense: I did not see very much to criticize with the first team. The results speak for themselves. However, I would say that we should prepare ourselves for more streaky offensive performances. There were quite a few explosive "chunk" plays but fewer methodical drives than I would have expected. There is still a significant stepdown from Morris to Williams. Williams rattles more easily in the pocket and throws more errant passes. Crawford and Clements should be serviceable as back-ups but at least in the scrimmage I saw more upside with Clements. He is a tougher runner than Crawford.

I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the defense:

DE: We saw a lot of McCord, Gilbert and Muhammad. And while they may have been feasting on the 2nd string OL particularly in the second half they generated a good outside rush, tipped a few passes and were otherwise active. Even Kelvin Cain got in for a cameo with a tipped ball. Despite Chick's absence my impression was that this was an improved and deeper group. Gilbert was the most intriguing addition to me because he is not just quick but also polished. (If I had to compare him to a former Cane I would say Wally Ojomo heading into his senior season.)

DT: Excluding the plays were Duke duked, Porter, Pierre and Robinson were very stout against the inside run. And dare I say that the DTs helped collapse a few pockets on passing downs (moreso in the second half). I was also impressed with Kamalu. He sacked Williams once I believe and held up at the point of attack well. Renfrow got burn as well but was not memorable.

LBs: LBs were likewise good defending the run but continue to be non-existent against the TE in the flats and the RB screen. Gaines was his usual steady self. Perryman got a lot of burn even in the second half when Gaines had taken off the pads. Figatron had some nasty tackles on Crawford and Clements and (I believe) he's the one who sent Mo Hagens to the bench. Other than that, did not see many LB plays that stood out.

CBs: A competent but unspectacular performance from this group. At one point I noticed Crawford actually picked up Duke motioning out of the backfield on a designed wheel route (where has that been the past few years?). And TH3 contested a few balls. But the CB that stood out the most was Artie Burns. He tackles with authority and he made a great break on a well-placed pass to Herb Waters from Morris to bat it away. What our CBs cannot do is run stride for stride with Phillip Dorsett on a go route for 50 yards. Which means they need safety help and...

Safeties are a **** show. Bush did not play but was suited up. KC, Highsmith and Rayshawn got the majority of the snaps. And the combination of Hurns, Coley and Lewis out of the slot abused them. This is partially a function of the quality of the receivers but as others have noted a sign that we are still deficient here. Jamal Carter got in towards the end of the game and wrapped up well on a tackle of Clements but if that was the only memorable play from the safety position then we are in trouble.

Hope this is of help for those that weren't there. August 30th can't come soon enough. Go Canes!

'Preciate what you do magilacuty and Udaman.

My pleasure. I appreciate when others do it so this was just my chance to reciprocate.

Having gotten home from the scrimmage, I had a chance for to reflect further on what I saw. For what it's worth:

- Offense: I did not see very much to criticize with the first team. The results speak for themselves. However, I would say that we should prepare ourselves for more streaky offensive performances. There were quite a few explosive "chunk" plays but fewer methodical drives than I would have expected. There is still a significant stepdown from Morris to Williams. Williams rattles more easily in the pocket and throws more errant passes. Crawford and Clements should be serviceable as back-ups but at least in the scrimmage I saw more upside with Clements. He is a tougher runner than Crawford.

I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the defense:

DE: We saw a lot of McCord, Gilbert and Muhammad. And while they may have been feasting on the 2nd string OL particularly in the second half they generated a good outside rush, tipped a few passes and were otherwise active. Even Kelvin Cain got in for a cameo with a tipped ball. Despite Chick's absence my impression was that this was an improved and deeper group. Gilbert was the most intriguing addition to me because he is not just quick but also polished. (If I had to compare him to a former Cane I would say Wally Ojomo heading into his senior season.)

DT: Excluding the plays were Duke duked, Porter, Pierre and Robinson were very stout against the inside run. And dare I say that the DTs helped collapse a few pockets on passing downs (moreso in the second half). I was also impressed with Kamalu. He sacked Williams once I believe and held up at the point of attack well. Renfrow got burn as well but was not memorable.

LBs: LBs were likewise good defending the run but continue to be non-existent against the TE in the flats and the RB screen. Gaines was his usual steady self. Perryman got a lot of burn even in the second half when Gaines had taken off the pads. Figatron had some nasty tackles on Crawford and Clements and (I believe) he's the one who sent Mo Hagens to the bench. Other than that, did not see many LB plays that stood out.

CBs: A competent but unspectacular performance from this group. At one point I noticed Crawford actually picked up Duke motioning out of the backfield on a designed wheel route (where has that been the past few years?). And TH3 contested a few balls. But the CB that stood out the most was Artie Burns. He tackles with authority and he made a great break on a well-placed pass to Herb Waters from Morris to bat it away. What our CBs cannot do is run stride for stride with Phillip Dorsett on a go route for 50 yards. Which means they need safety help and...

Safeties are a **** show. Bush did not play but was suited up. KC, Highsmith and Rayshawn got the majority of the snaps. And the combination of Hurns, Coley and Lewis out of the slot abused them. This is partially a function of the quality of the receivers but as others have noted a sign that we are still deficient here. Jamal Carter got in towards the end of the game and wrapped up well on a tackle of Clements but if that was the only memorable play from the safety position then we are in trouble.

Hope this is of help for those that weren't there. August 30th can't come soon enough. Go Canes!

The good thing is how many teams on our schedule has a receiver as fast as Phillip Dorsett??? maybe FSU's young guys Jesus Wilson and Kermit Whitfield but they are true freshman... its not like we have to worry about getting torched on go routes for the most part.

Also the safety position is terrible w/o Deon Bush back there.... thats why i lol when ppl call Rayshawn Jenkins "special." He still has a long way to go and I think Miami should consider Deon Bush and Jamal Carter as the two starters at safety during the season.

Everything else sounds good and the d-line imo with the late additions have improved even greater then i expected them to be at this point from last season, which is obviously positive.

Hard to comment on Jenkins without seeing the scrimmage. I feel sorry for whoever has to play next to those other two scrubs.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

I hope coach Golden making coach D's life very uncomfortable until this defense proves itself, even thought they are close friends. I hope Golden can separate work & friendship, because Miami will not tolerate many more 7-5 years because of the defense. He will be on the hot seat if that happens because we are not a 7-5 program. We are used to winning big in Miami.

No argument with that. But let's not judge the man until the season is over.

 

[The Franchise]

Shayon Green isnt a bad player though????

Sure he is. Watch the games and quit quoting his tackle stats to me where he humped piles 10 yards down the field. He'll be decent as a bit player and an emotional leader this year. That'll be a role in which he will excel.

I dont have to quote stats.... those plays 10 yards up field were made b/c he had too when other players along the dline and at the lb position where either out of position or constantly getting washed out of the play.

He was the only d-lineman holding the point of attack and thats why the coaches like him and thats his job... the d-end position isnt only about getting sacks. He didnt have the step to get a sack last year b/c he wasnt yet fully healthy from his knee injury. I expect him to get a couple sacks this year but thats not his job, his main job is to contain and stop the run.

LULZ at this myth about him "holding the point of attack". Just because he can't rush the passer doesn't mean he's great at holding the point of attack. Go re-watch that ND game and focus on the TE from ND single-blocking Green down the field like he was on skates. The TE is not supposed to handle your DE like that, but he did because Green wasn't big enough, strong enough or athletic enough to do anything about it.

You know why the corches love him? Because he's got an incredible attitude and is a super tough sumbytch. He's a coach's dream. He just can't play a lick, and that's why were so desperately trying to bring in DEs this year.

I'm done with this because it just gets stupid and repetitive. If you think Green's a standout player, then that's cool. Stick with that. 11 and 98 or whoever else can play will eat up most of his reps this year though, and the proof will be in the pudding.

LOL you sound ridiculous... Shayon Green is one of the strongest and biggest players on the team, wtf r u talking about? You mention one play of one game when the entire defense was terrible to make a stupid point like that smh wow. How about the fact that Shayon and Chickillo had to play so many reps b/c there was nobody behind him that can come in and share the load, you do know that will wear anybody down right??? .... i'm guessing you dont.

i dont think he's a standout player either, and other guys will rotate they arent getting "his reps" do you understand football?? i need to ask you that before i continue debating w/ you about this subject.

OK. You win. Green's awesome and will win the Outland Trophy this year.

 

[DJWilliams55]

Thanks for that report Udaman. it's disappointing that Rayshawn isn't improving. Deon needs to get back and stay healthy. I don't want to see Rodgers or Highsmith on the field ever again...if need be bring Carter in and let him go thru some lumps.

 

[The Franchise]

'Preciate what you do magilacuty and Udaman.

My pleasure. I appreciate when others do it so this was just my chance to reciprocate.

Having gotten home from the scrimmage, I had a chance for to reflect further on what I saw. For what it's worth:

- Offense: I did not see very much to criticize with the first team. The results speak for themselves. However, I would say that we should prepare ourselves for more streaky offensive performances. There were quite a few explosive "chunk" plays but fewer methodical drives than I would have expected. There is still a significant stepdown from Morris to Williams. Williams rattles more easily in the pocket and throws more errant passes. Crawford and Clements should be serviceable as back-ups but at least in the scrimmage I saw more upside with Clements. He is a tougher runner than Crawford.

I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the defense:

DE: We saw a lot of McCord, Gilbert and Muhammad. And while they may have been feasting on the 2nd string OL particularly in the second half they generated a good outside rush, tipped a few passes and were otherwise active. Even Kelvin Cain got in for a cameo with a tipped ball. Despite Chick's absence my impression was that this was an improved and deeper group. Gilbert was the most intriguing addition to me because he is not just quick but also polished. (If I had to compare him to a former Cane I would say Wally Ojomo heading into his senior season.)

DT: Excluding the plays were Duke duked, Porter, Pierre and Robinson were very stout against the inside run. And dare I say that the DTs helped collapse a few pockets on passing downs (moreso in the second half). I was also impressed with Kamalu. He sacked Williams once I believe and held up at the point of attack well. Renfrow got burn as well but was not memorable.

LBs: LBs were likewise good defending the run but continue to be non-existent against the TE in the flats and the RB screen. Gaines was his usual steady self. Perryman got a lot of burn even in the second half when Gaines had taken off the pads. Figatron had some nasty tackles on Crawford and Clements and (I believe) he's the one who sent Mo Hagens to the bench. Other than that, did not see many LB plays that stood out.

CBs: A competent but unspectacular performance from this group. At one point I noticed Crawford actually picked up Duke motioning out of the backfield on a designed wheel route (where has that been the past few years?). And TH3 contested a few balls. But the CB that stood out the most was Artie Burns. He tackles with authority and he made a great break on a well-placed pass to Herb Waters from Morris to bat it away. What our CBs cannot do is run stride for stride with Phillip Dorsett on a go route for 50 yards. Which means they need safety help and...

Safeties are a **** show. Bush did not play but was suited up. KC, Highsmith and Rayshawn got the majority of the snaps. And the combination of Hurns, Coley and Lewis out of the slot abused them. This is partially a function of the quality of the receivers but as others have noted a sign that we are still deficient here. Jamal Carter got in towards the end of the game and wrapped up well on a tackle of Clements but if that was the only memorable play from the safety position then we are in trouble.

Hope this is of help for those that weren't there. August 30th can't come soon enough. Go Canes!

'Preciate what you do magilacuty and Udaman.

My pleasure. I appreciate when others do it so this was just my chance to reciprocate.

Having gotten home from the scrimmage, I had a chance for to reflect further on what I saw. For what it's worth:

- Offense: I did not see very much to criticize with the first team. The results speak for themselves. However, I would say that we should prepare ourselves for more streaky offensive performances. There were quite a few explosive "chunk" plays but fewer methodical drives than I would have expected. There is still a significant stepdown from Morris to Williams. Williams rattles more easily in the pocket and throws more errant passes. Crawford and Clements should be serviceable as back-ups but at least in the scrimmage I saw more upside with Clements. He is a tougher runner than Crawford.

I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the defense:

DE: We saw a lot of McCord, Gilbert and Muhammad. And while they may have been feasting on the 2nd string OL particularly in the second half they generated a good outside rush, tipped a few passes and were otherwise active. Even Kelvin Cain got in for a cameo with a tipped ball. Despite Chick's absence my impression was that this was an improved and deeper group. Gilbert was the most intriguing addition to me because he is not just quick but also polished. (If I had to compare him to a former Cane I would say Wally Ojomo heading into his senior season.)

DT: Excluding the plays were Duke duked, Porter, Pierre and Robinson were very stout against the inside run. And dare I say that the DTs helped collapse a few pockets on passing downs (moreso in the second half). I was also impressed with Kamalu. He sacked Williams once I believe and held up at the point of attack well. Renfrow got burn as well but was not memorable.

LBs: LBs were likewise good defending the run but continue to be non-existent against the TE in the flats and the RB screen. Gaines was his usual steady self. Perryman got a lot of burn even in the second half when Gaines had taken off the pads. Figatron had some nasty tackles on Crawford and Clements and (I believe) he's the one who sent Mo Hagens to the bench. Other than that, did not see many LB plays that stood out.

CBs: A competent but unspectacular performance from this group. At one point I noticed Crawford actually picked up Duke motioning out of the backfield on a designed wheel route (where has that been the past few years?). And TH3 contested a few balls. But the CB that stood out the most was Artie Burns. He tackles with authority and he made a great break on a well-placed pass to Herb Waters from Morris to bat it away. What our CBs cannot do is run stride for stride with Phillip Dorsett on a go route for 50 yards. Which means they need safety help and...

Safeties are a **** show. Bush did not play but was suited up. KC, Highsmith and Rayshawn got the majority of the snaps. And the combination of Hurns, Coley and Lewis out of the slot abused them. This is partially a function of the quality of the receivers but as others have noted a sign that we are still deficient here. Jamal Carter got in towards the end of the game and wrapped up well on a tackle of Clements but if that was the only memorable play from the safety position then we are in trouble.

Hope this is of help for those that weren't there. August 30th can't come soon enough. Go Canes!

The good thing is how many teams on our schedule has a receiver as fast as Phillip Dorsett??? maybe FSU's young guys Jesus Wilson and Kermit Whitfield but they are true freshman... its not like we have to worry about getting torched on go routes for the most part.

Also the safety position is terrible w/o Deon Bush back there.... thats why i lol when ppl call Rayshawn Jenkins "special." He still has a long way to go and I think Miami should consider Deon Bush and Jamal Carter as the two starters at safety during the season.

Everything else sounds good and the d-line imo with the late additions have improved even greater then i expected them to be at this point from last season, which is obviously positive.

Hard to comment on Jenkins without seeing the scrimmage. I feel sorry for whoever has to play next to those other two scrubs.

It's not hard for a dipshart like zonedout3.

 

[DMoney]

Green was not built for the role he was forced to play last year. It was like Vegas Franklin at DT. Green is a high school linebacker who bulked up, not an everydown run-stuffing down lineman.

In short spurts, he can give us some toughness and energy. This shift to a 3-4 and the arrival of AQM and Gilbert will help him.

 

[DJWilliams55]

Shayon is a good kid. He will be a fine captain cheering his teammates on from the bench. Talent plays. It's not personal.

The Profit needs to play.

LOL what is it about rotations dont you all seem to understand?? You think AQM and everybody else isnt going to play b/c Green is also going to play???

I'm well aware of the need for rotation....but you don't put in a kid out of his league in there just to create a rotation. We can have a decent rotation without Green going in there and getting owned. In the 4-3 you can rotate Chick Gilbert AQM and McCord depending on down distance etc. the youngsters are a little light in the *** yes but they are ballers. At the end of the day I don't want someone out there that is going to get pounded no matter if he is wearing the C or not.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Safety is going to be a problem if anything happens to Bush. We are seriously lacking talent/depth back there. You can't expect a true freshman in Carter to be ready right away and the upperclassmen are simply on the roster cause we don't have anyone better at the moment.

Make no mistake about it...when this program is at full strength a Highsmith or Rodgers is on the scout team....not firmly entrenched in the 2 deep

I'd argue the healthyof Bush is just as important as that of Curtis Porter at this point in relation to the success of this years D.

 

[UM58]

Safety is going to be a problem if anything happens to Bush. We are seriously lacking talent/depth back there. You can't expect a true freshman in Carter to be ready right away and the upperclassmen are simply on the roster cause we don't have anyone better at the moment.

Make no mistake about it...when this program is at full strength a Highsmith or Rodgers is on the scout team....not firmly entrenched in the 2 deep

I'd argue the healthyof Bush is just as important as that of Curtis Porter at this point in relation to the success of this years D.

I think Bush is more important than Porter.