Tim "Lice" Harris is a joke thread

This is why FSU and SEC schools close well over us. We'll be in it for a kid until real late and then whoosh, the cash flies in the last week of recruiting and the big schools all of the sudden "close well". I can smell it coming.

You and a few other guys really get what is going on, LOL.
 
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I'd rather take a kid who wants to be at Miami than take a chance on a kid who wants to play games. He had two years to think it over, Next!


I really dont get this whole situation; from most reports(mainly Ice Harris) Miami said it was a numbers thing; I just cant wrap my head around that. It makes absolutely no sense.

1. You dont pull a kids offer 6 days before NSD because he wont commit, especially with the possible backlash.
--- who cares if he grabs the FSU hat; you have to put your pride aside and make the logical decision.

2. IF it really is a numbers crunch, so what if we oversigned by one. And if he picked the noles it wouldnt even affect the numbers.

3. You have to just let it ride out until national signing day,

I guess my point is: Why was it such a necessity to pull his offer? Why was it worth pulling his offer? Why not just leave it on the table and deal with it on NSD.

With all that being said, I think there HAS to be more to it than a numbers cruch.

I could see C4L scenario being a possibity, but my only question it why not just let it ride, how could it really hurt us that bad? To avoid being dissed? or oversigning by one?

What am I missing?
 
Not hatin, i'm a Cane's fan, and have been for over thirty years. i 'm sure ice has done a lot of good things but the issue here is not ice it's, the recruiting process and the Canes.

at a minimum the message should be clear, if you're looking we're lookin'. If you're telling us there might be something different and maybe better out there, we're lookin too. You tellin us you could go somewhere else, you won't commit, means we're telling you someone else could fill your spot, and take your scholorship.

Not like this kid hasn't had the last year to figure this out, jeesh he's from miami!

remember the past NLOIDs where fence-sitting, highly rated recruits chose other schools at the last minute. we tried to take las minute plan Bs, wound up with plan Cs, holes in the roster, all the time telling future recruits they could slow play us, and **** us at the las minute. Them days over fellas.
 
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Ive been a big time Al fan from the jump, but this is a ******* disaster. This is EXACTLY the type of thing Randy would do. You do not publicly humiliate Tim Ice Harris or his kids. You do not alienate pipeline schools. The whole "oh whatever Kirkland is a project" argument is ******* insane and short sighted. Sonny is a project too. If you are going to pull a scholarship days before signing day you do it to someone living in Maryland, not someone living in overtown. We can always pull obscure lightly recruited out of state kids. Randy did it pretty much exclusively after he alienated everyone in Dade County and Plant. We have 2 guys in this class from Dade County right now and we just alienated the top program for years to come. And for what?

Lulz.

Did AG or Barrow go on Twitter crying wolf? Did AG or Barrow go on WQAM? Did AG or Barrow run to fat Manny?

Ice and Kirk's stepdad are the ones that made the mistake here.

BTW isnt the only school in S FL.
 
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Not hatin, but i'm not a fan of young black men, i'm a Cane's fan, and have been for over thirty years. i 'm sure ice has done a lot of good things but the issue here is not ice it's, the recruiting process and the Canes.

at a minimum the message should be clear, if you're looking we're lookin'. If you're telling us there might be something different and maybe better out there, we're lookin too. You tellin us you could go somewhere else, you won't commit, means we're telling you someone else could fill your spot, and take your scholorship.

Not like this kid hasn't had the last year to figure this out, jeesh he's from miami!

remember the past NLOIDs where fence-sitting, highly rated recruits chose other schools at the last minute. we tried to take las minute plan Bs, wound up with plan Cs, holes in the roster, all the time telling future recruits they could slow play us, and **** us at the las minute. Them days over fellas.

Probably want to re-word that one
 
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Smelly indeed, If the kid wanted to be at Miami he would have been. I' don't believe Ice or Kirk, good luck to them.
Why hasn't Kirkland or ICE asked for the ship back????? As of the time of the interview this am, they still had not asked for the ship back! Humm.... Something smells toooooooo fishy!

Something here stinks. It all doesn't add up. If he was really that upset afterwards, why not call AG and say I want to come. There is way more to this story than what is being portrayed. As always, if there is a stud that wants in you always make room. ALWAYS. ALWAYS!

+1. Harris said that he asked Kirkland last night if he wanted Ice to call Golden and ask for ship and Kirkland said no. Something smells fishy indeed.
 
I don't know if this has been discussed because I've only looked at the first post so far. But does anyone else remember Kirk claiming a couple of weeks ago that he would announce on Feb. 1 because he wanted to give the schools he didn't choose a chance to fill his spot with someone else? What do you think the chances are that he and UM made that agreement? I think they're pretty strong.

All of a sudden, Kirk tells UM he's going to wait till signing day because, as Ice said last night, this is a big decision, and Kirk's still not certain where he's going. UM wanted assurance from him that he'd commit to them by Feb. 1, as they likely originally agreed upon, and Kirk said no again. So, they pulled the plug because they smelled a rat and needed to make sure they filled that spot with someone.

Let's not also lose track of the fact that UM set up a big signing day event with ESPN, and the last thing UM wants is for some punk to throw the UM hat on the ground and do an Irish jig on it. They wanted assurance from Kirk, and Kirk decided he didn't want to give it to them. I don't buy this whole deal about Ice not knowing about a deadline. It reeks of **** to me because that Feb. 1 announcement was discussed 2 weeks ago.

Like I said last nigh, I'll ride with Alshermond. The Don has been super precise with EVERYTHING he's done with recruiting and developing this programs since he got here. Does anyone honestly think he'd fly off the handle and make some irrational decision on a whim that might blow up in his face?

Let's go one step further, "Ice" was a part of the previous regime that failed miserably at everything they did so does anyone think it's possible that "Ice" fugged this up? You have Golden who has been on point and "Ice" who was sent back down to the HS ranks.

Something doesn't add up and I'll take Goldens side on this. DK needed to either **** or get off the pot and he made his choice so now he can lay in it. Hopefully these South FL Me Me's will learn that Golden aint fugging around! If you're looking then we're looking. He's told everybody that from day one so when he passes you by don't act like you didn't know.
 
Not hatin, but i'm not a fan of young black men, i'm a Cane's fan, and have been for over thirty years. i 'm sure ice has done a lot of good things but the issue here is not ice it's, the recruiting process and the Canes.

at a minimum the message should be clear, if you're looking we're lookin'. If you're telling us there might be something different and maybe better out there, we're lookin too. You tellin us you could go somewhere else, you won't commit, means we're telling you someone else could fill your spot, and take your scholorship.

Not like this kid hasn't had the last year to figure this out, jeesh he's from miami!

remember the past NLOIDs where fence-sitting, highly rated recruits chose other schools at the last minute. we tried to take las minute plan Bs, wound up with plan Cs, holes in the roster, all the time telling future recruits they could slow play us, and **** us at the las minute. Them days over fellas.

Please elaborate. I'm a young black man so what's up?
 
Don't care about Kirkland. I care about not ****ing off HS coaches from our biggest pipeline schools.

Regardless of whose fault it is...you don't **** where you eat. And that's what Golden did yesterday. It's not a big deal to me now, but if it causes us to lose out on other top players at BTW like Matthew Thomas then it becomes a big deal.
 
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Not hatin, but i'm not a fan of young black men, i'm a Cane's fan, and have been for over thirty years. i 'm sure ice has done a lot of good things but the issue here is not ice it's, the recruiting process and the Canes.

at a minimum the message should be clear, if you're looking we're lookin'. If you're telling us there might be something different and maybe better out there, we're lookin too. You tellin us you could go somewhere else, you won't commit, means we're telling you someone else could fill your spot, and take your scholorship.

Not like this kid hasn't had the last year to figure this out, jeesh he's from miami!

remember the past NLOIDs where fence-sitting, highly rated recruits chose other schools at the last minute. we tried to take las minute plan Bs, wound up with plan Cs, holes in the roster, all the time telling future recruits they could slow play us, and **** us at the las minute. Them days over fellas.
LOL WUT. You do realize that most Canes have been young black men? Probably not the best statement to make.
 
Not hatin, but i'm not a fan of young black men, i'm a Cane's fan, and have been for over thirty years. i 'm sure ice has done a lot of good things but the issue here is not ice it's, the recruiting process and the Canes.

at a minimum the message should be clear, if you're looking we're lookin'. If you're telling us there might be something different and maybe better out there, we're lookin too. You tellin us you could go somewhere else, you won't commit, means we're telling you someone else could fill your spot, and take your scholorship.

Not like this kid hasn't had the last year to figure this out, jeesh he's from miami!

remember the past NLOIDs where fence-sitting, highly rated recruits chose other schools at the last minute. we tried to take las minute plan Bs, wound up with plan Cs, holes in the roster, all the time telling future recruits they could slow play us, and **** us at the las minute. Them days over fellas.

Please elaborate. I'm a young black man so what's up?

I took it that he is fan of this U and supports any kids who want to come to play here whether they are white, black, blue, or purple. What did you gather from that young black man? You aren't about to pull the race card are you?
 
You guys looking to hang texacane. LULZ. I'm sure he just used poor verbiage. Someone earlier stated that Ice had done more for young black men than anyone. This dude texacane, I'm assuming, meant that he's a fan of UM, not of "young black men" that Ice supposedly helps. I think he meant to emphasize his loyalty to UM, not to some concept of "general help".
 
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All yall hating on Ice can fu*k off! That man has helped more young black men than any person on this **** board! So just because he's upset with the surprise he has a right to do so but everybody on here saying he is butthurt can suck an aids infested popsicle!

I have as much interest in Ice Harris's assistance to "young black men" as you have with Donna Shalala's improvement in UM's academic standings.
 
Booker T consistantly scatters good talent around the country, and a hometown Powerhouse HS. But, this "pipeline" label is a bit over used.
 
Could care less for Kirkland as a player. Staff must think the same. But if you loss 6 because, than its a problem. That said what if 6 is already gone.
 
Ive been a big time Al fan from the jump, but this is a ****ing disaster. This is EXACTLY the type of thing Randy would do. You do not publicly humiliate Tim Ice Harris or his kids. You do not alienate pipeline schools. The whole "oh whatever Kirkland is a project" argument is ****ing insane and short sighted. Sonny is a project too. If you are going to pull a scholarship days before signing day you do it to someone living in Maryland, not someone living in overtown. We can always pull obscure lightly recruited out of state kids. Randy did it pretty much exclusively after he alienated everyone in Dade County and Plant. We have 2 guys in this class from Dade County right now and we just alienated the top program for years to come. And for what?

Lulz.

Did AG or Barrow go on Twitter crying wolf? Did AG or Barrow go on WQAM? Did AG or Barrow run to fat Manny?

Ice and Kirk's stepdad are the ones that made the mistake here.

BTW isnt the only school in S FL.

harris has influence on all the dade schools, that is a fact, every school down here loves harris, and lets not forget he is part of team that produces talent, something doesnt feel right about this whole situation, there is something that is not being said, money, promises, something, i really dont think that golden is this stupid and even if he is coley, crystal ball, and carroll are not stupid they would stop golden from doing that and that is just saying if golden is stupid (im not saying that and i dont think he is) and someone had said this in one of the 55,000 page post that we may never know what really happened
 
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