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There have been news every time I've been asleep, gone to the gym or been running.

I'll promise that I'll do any of the three things as much as possible during the next months.

Much love,

suck your mom.
 
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It's insane to me that Mario was able to find a quality DC before hiring an OC, and it's especially damning considering how long he and everyone else knew that Gattis wasn't the guy for the job; he's had MONTHS to work on this and complete his due diligence. This shouldn't be so d@mn difficult, and it's really making me question how bad his rep is within coaching circles.
 
Highline17 said:
Scared abt Whipple’s expirence for us, only ever called one game
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People were scared about Dorsey too. The NFL constantly upgrades guys with no play calling experience. That’s why you must be worth your own salt evaluating coaches. Whipple was born to coach and was raised in it. Him playing college ball was more about getting a jump on coaching versus playing pro ball.

Ask anyone about Kellen Moore and Dorsey and they’d tell you they were going to be star coaches. Whipple is the same type .

I’d like to land somebody like this before their career blows up for once.
 
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RedPill Stepdad said:
2016


OF+ - 40th

PPG - 47th

YPG - 26th

YPP - 53rd

explosive plays - 43rd
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So his best year was with a Nick Mullens who just won conference player of year the season before with a different OC. An OC who is now the OC at UNC in Chip Lindsey. Of course Mullens had a worse year under Dawson and they threw the ball alot less.
 
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mirvin88 said:
They tell more of a story but you do have to use some critical thinking. Things like changing offensive schemes could have a noticeable impact initially.
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Absolutely.

Or Houston having King and others sit out the rest of the season so they could all transfer. Stuff like that can be important.

But people use that to explain away a career of sh*tty seasons.

Like you can do that was Nuss.

Hoke was collapsing at Michigan. Muschamp demanded he play conservatively.
McElwain era was left with Muschmap’s horrible offensive recruiting.

You can provide context that explains the failures of literally every season. But once you’re doing that, rather than outliers, you’ve lost me.
 
umiamifan1 said:
It's insane to me that Mario was able to find a quality DC before hiring an OC, and it's especially damning considering how long he and everyone else knew that Gattis wasn't the guy for the job; he's had MONTHS to work on this and complete his due diligence. This shouldn't be so d@mn difficult, and it's really making me question how bad his rep is within coaching circles.
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Agree 100%. If dude ends up being someone on the sidelines this Sunday I can get down with that. Otherwise no bueno.
 
Mackmiller974 said:
Crazy thing is the offense improved a ton with Streeter and he still got fired.

2021 with Tony Elliott as OC
Scoring 82nd Total 100th
DJ 13 Total TDs 10INTs 55%

2022 with Brandon Streeter as OC
Scoring 30th Total 48th
DJ 29 Total TDs 7INTs 62%

Maybe they only fired him because they knew they could get Garrett Riley? It all happened pretty fast
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Didn’t know that. Thanks for posting. Looks like Dabo made a power play. He wanted to change what they’re doing in O. DCs in the ACC didn’t all of a sudden figure them out…. Graduation did. Once u don’t have 1st rd QBs/ and WRs at your disposal, then you find out real fast, that football ain’t as simple.
 
Cribby said:
People were scared about Dorsey too. The NFL constantly upgrades guys with no play calling experience. That’s why you must be worth your own salt evaluating coaches. Whipple was born to coach and was raised in it. Him okaying college ball was more about getting a jump on coaching versus playing pro ball.

Ask anyone about Kellen Moore and Dorsey and they’d tell you they were going to be star coaches. Whipple is the same type .

I don’t think he’ll get hired , I’d just like to land somebody like this before their career blows up for once.
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I’m generally not scared of no playcalling, but based on us NEEDING to get the offense rolling I would think that a guy that’s done it b4 in college would be the choice. Ex Kevin Johns has set up many successful offenses across CFB
 
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mossmadness said:
Dawson as OC:

WVU:

2013: 84
2014: 56

Kentucky:

2015: 77

Southern Miss:

2016: 75
2017: 100
2018: 123

Houston:

2020: 62
2021: 58
2022: 23


He has one Top 50 offense in his entire career. And that’s if you believe Dana didn’t take the reigns over in 2022.

Is the argument that every coach he has ever had has refused to allow Dawson to run Dawson’s offense?
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mario has not had one person hired or in legitimate contention that people couldn't justify as a solid candidate or deserving (at the time of the hiring)

no way he changes that and hires someone like dawson's sorry ***
 
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IndayArtHauz said:
Has anyone done a deep dive on why Mario loves the Rams O and what that might mean about what his goals are?
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Because it’s really good and has had a bunch of quality coaches pass through

So far Sean McVay has had a staff of:
Matt Lafleur - HC Packers
Zac Taylor - HC Bengals
Kevin O’Connell - HC Vikings
Shane Waldron - Seahawks OC
Wes Phillips - Vikings OC
Jedd Fisch - HC Arizona

And that’s just guys that have been promoted offensively.
 
Cribby said:
People were scared about Dorsey too. The NFL constantly upgrades guys with no play calling experience. That’s why you must be worth your own salt evaluating coaches. Whipple was born to coach and was raised in it. Him playing college ball was more about getting a jump on coaching versus playing pro ball.

Ask anyone about Kellen Moore and Dorsey and they’d tell you they were going to be star coaches. Whipple is the same type .

I don’t think he’ll get hired , I’d just like to land somebody like this before their career blows up for once.
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Preach
 
calinative umstudent said:
Because it’s really good and has had a bunch of quality coaches pass through

So far Sean McVay has had a staff of:
Matt Lafleur - HC Packers
Zac Taylor - HC Bengals
Kevin O’Connell - HC Vikings
Shane Waldron - Seahawks OC
Wes Phillips - Vikings OC
Jedd Fisch - HC Arizona

And that’s just guys that have been promoted offensively.
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and now with all those people gone this year the rams had the last ranked offense in the entire nfl

granted injuries...but still, very very bad

so hopefully he's not too impressed with anyone that current staff
 
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calinative umstudent said:
Because it’s really good and has had a bunch of quality coaches pass through

So far Sean McVay has had a staff of:
Matt Lafleur - HC Packers
Zac Taylor - HC Bengals
Kevin O’Connell - HC Vikings
Shane Waldron - Seahawks OC
Wes Phillips - Vikings OC
Jedd Fisch - HC Arizona

And that’s just guys that have been promoted offensively.
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Yeah but what else
 
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