The defense is hopeless...

[tcgrad1014]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

How are we going to control TOP when we can't run the ball? We have 2 JAGS and a freshman at running back.

 

[tcgrad1014]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

How are we going to control TOP when we can't run the ball? We have 2 JAGS and a freshman at running back.

How do you know we can run the ball? What games have we shown a committance to running the ball?

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

Again...pure speculation....you assume it wont work cause we ran it a handful of times and got stuffed....



Running the ball usually doesnt show its effect until the 3rd and 4th qtrs of a game when the defense is wore down

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Venice, Larry...it's no use.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

 

[Larry]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

Uh, wut? Dude, were you watching the games?

Miami completely abandon the run against K-State after the very first drive that resulted in the Clements fumble. First drive. Ran the ball 5 times on that first drive. Ran the ball 5 times the rest of the half.

Against Notre Dame, Miami ran the ball 3 times in the first quarter...the plan was to score quick on the first drive...was good, but didn't convert and make the plays. But after that...Johnson was 3/11 on the next drive, 3/25 on the first drive of the second quarter, and another 3/10 on the final drive of the second quarter...a respectable 4ypc in a 13-3 (what should have been 13-6 game. Notre Dame opens up, punches Miami in the mouth and they never go back to the run game again.

 

[tcgrad1014]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

Again...pure speculation....you assume it wont work cause we ran it a handful of times and got stuffed....



Running the ball usually doesnt show its effect until the 3rd and 4th qtrs of a game when the defense is wore down

So we were going to wear down K State and ND with our running game? Seriously?

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

Uh, wut? Dude, were you watching the games?

Miami completely abandon the run against K-State after the very first drive that resulted in the Clements fumble. First drive. Ran the ball 5 times on that first drive. Ran the ball 5 times the rest of the half.

Against Notre Dame, Miami ran the ball 3 times in the first quarter...the plan was to score quick on the first drive...was good, but didn't convert and make the plays. But after that...Johnson was 3/11 on the next drive, 3/25 on the first drive of the second quarter, and another 3/10 on the final drive of the second quarter...a respectable 4ypc in a 13-3 (what should have been 13-6 game. Notre Dame opens up, punches Miami in the mouth and they never go back to the run game again.

Larry come on...facts have no business on this board, speculation is where its at man!

 

[Larry]

Venice, Larry...it's no use.

This football board is filling up quickly with some real trogs. Its like they don't even watch the games or have never seen a football in their lives.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Controlling the TOP when you have a porous defense is basic football 101. Aint noone gonna tell with me otherwise

Our offense hinges too much on momentum, its either cold and we cant convert to save our lives or its hot and were completing receptions. This is not what you run when your defense is a sieve.

This is usually some basic ****.

Game changes a bit when you have an offense like say...WVU or Oregon that is just a well oiled machine...but Miami's isn't built like those teams and can't legitimately score at will like they can either.

Miami needs to take pressure off the defense...can't tell me any different.

"Miami can't run on good teams"...maybe, but they didn't even TRY against K-State and Notre Dame.

Miami's best effort in TOP came against Georgia Tech...in Miami's 3 FBS wins, they ran the ball over 30 times. Miami's offense is pretty middling on first down, and throw it over 2:1 pass v run on first down. Perhaps try and lower that gap a little bit and establish the run a little bit on early downs. It'll help boost up that also middling 3rd down conversation efficiency and would help Miami extend drives a little bit.

Basic football ****.

So how many times was Fisch supposed to run for 2 yards a pop against K State and ND before abandoning the run? It wasn't going to work.

Again...pure speculation....you assume it wont work cause we ran it a handful of times and got stuffed....



Running the ball usually doesnt show its effect until the 3rd and 4th qtrs of a game when the defense is wore down

So we were going to wear down K State and ND with our running game? Seriously?

Im sorry, do you know something that we all dont, are they made or titanium and dont breathe oxygen?

 

[bbcane]

hard to run when your down by 3 scores. that said sure dont hurt pats, giant, , gb well you get point

top is last years offense

 

[tcgrad1014]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

 

[GhostofVenice01]

hard to run when your down by 3 scores. that said sure dont hurt pats, giant, , gb well you get point

top is last years offense

We abandoned the run after the 1st drive. Pretty sure we werent down 3 tds then.


And way to compare an NFL team with the 3 best quarterbacks in the league and loaded with talent at the WR position to our situation. SEEMS LEGIT.

 

[tcgrad1014]

Venice, Larry...it's no use.

This football board is filling up quickly with some real trogs. Its like they don't even watch the games or have never seen a football in their lives.

I seem to be seeing things just like our OC. Would his point of view be similarly dismissed as someone has never seen a football game?

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

Says who? Have you been around since the off season? AG said in year one we were gonna be a tough, hardnosed smash mouth team built like Alabama


Jesus Marion Joseph, its like yall only see what you wanna see

 

[tcgrad1014]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

Says who? Have you been around since the off season? AG said in year one we were gonna be a tough, hardnosed smash mouth team built like Alabama


Jesus Marion Joseph, its like yall only see what you wanna see

Last year we couldn't pick up 1 yard when we needed it. This year we were all of a suddenly going to be a smash mouth team? Not sure where you're getting that from.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

Says who? Have you been around since the off season? AG said in year one we were gonna be a tough, hardnosed smash mouth team built like Alabama


Jesus Marion Joseph, its like yall only see what you wanna see

Last year we couldn't pick up 1 yard when we needed it. This year we were all of a suddenly going to be a smash mouth team? Not sure where you're getting that from.

So....2 times last year we didnt convert our short yardage situations without our headcoaches S/C program implemented that means we abandon the run for the rest of his career here? Do me a favor and see what type of offense Golden ran at Temple before coming here...


And Goldens first interview here after being signed he said that to the press...so apparently im not sure where youve been getting your info from

 

[tcgrad1014]

Wasnt our strength of the team going into the season our OL and our stable of 4 running backs??

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

Says who? Have you been around since the off season? AG said in year one we were gonna be a tough, hardnosed smash mouth team built like Alabama


Jesus Marion Joseph, its like yall only see what you wanna see

Last year we couldn't pick up 1 yard when we needed it. This year we were all of a suddenly going to be a smash mouth team? Not sure where you're getting that from.

So....2 times last year we didnt convert our short yardage situations without our headcoaches S/C program implemented that means we abandon the run for the rest of his career here? Do me a favor and see what type of offense Golden ran at Temple before coming here...


And Goldens first interview here after being signed he said that to the press...so apparently im not sure where youve been getting your info from

Dude, we do not have the personnel to run a "smash mouth" offense. I have no doubt that this is AG's long term plan. We do not have a quality RB with the size to handle pounding the ball between the tackles 20 times a game. We have JAGs and Duke Johnson. Additionally, our O-line doesn't seem to be terribly adept at run blocking. Fisch is working with the cards he was dealt and he is doing the best job he can do. Has his play calling been perfect? Of course not. But I like what he's done. The offense is not the problem.

 

[sniffin94]

Says who? Our O-line has been overrated for at least 5 years. Our RBs consist of 2 JAGS and an undersized freshman. Who's the 4th RB?

Says who? Have you been around since the off season? AG said in year one we were gonna be a tough, hardnosed smash mouth team built like Alabama


Jesus Marion Joseph, its like yall only see what you wanna see

Last year we couldn't pick up 1 yard when we needed it. This year we were all of a suddenly going to be a smash mouth team? Not sure where you're getting that from.

So....2 times last year we didnt convert our short yardage situations without our headcoaches S/C program implemented that means we abandon the run for the rest of his career here? Do me a favor and see what type of offense Golden ran at Temple before coming here...


And Goldens first interview here after being signed he said that to the press...so apparently im not sure where youve been getting your info from

Dude, we do not have the personnel to run a "smash mouth" offense. I have no doubt that this is AG's long term plan. We do not have a quality RB with the size to handle pounding the ball between the tackles 20 times a game. We have JAGs and Duke Johnson. Additionally, our O-line doesn't seem to be terribly adept at run blocking. Fisch is working with the cards he was dealt and he is doing the best job he can do. Has his play calling been perfect? Of course not. But I like what he's done. The offense is not the problem.

The ******* offense scored 3 points last week