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[supacane]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

Are you related to morris? Because its obvious that you didnt see the same things we and other coaches who said all the same thing everyone else saw from morris, maube you should go rewatch some games

I don't need to rewatch ****. In 2012 Duke had 27 Catches for over 200 yards in 2013 against a much easier schedule he had 4. In addition in 2012 Mike James had 30 catches for over 340 yards. Our team was much younger and less experience and it was still Morris throwing the ball. Don't let some facts get in the way of your agenda of blaming players for coaching deficiencies

 

[supacane]

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Which players weren't put in position to succeed? Hurns? Who had the best year yardage wise of any Miami WR. Waters with his 6 TDs? Coley?

Must be really missing Duke's 8.2 per catch from that season. Mike James did his damage mostly on screens which worked but so did the WR screens that Coley leaned on this past season.

As far as screens last year. Didn't Morris throw his first pick of the year on a screen against FAU in the first game? That might shake a new play caller just a bit. Bounced one off the helmet against UNC that wound up being a pick too.

Coley needs to progress but I'm not shocked his first recruited QB was the anti-Morris in Kaaya.

Kaaya has not played a down of CFB. Might want to wait till he has to say he is anti this and anti that. Continued over hype of players who have not left greentree for a second. SMH

 

[fincane]

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Which players weren't put in position to succeed? Hurns? Who had the best year yardage wise of any Miami WR. Waters with his 6 TDs? Coley?

Must be really missing Duke's 8.2 per catch from that season. Mike James did his damage mostly on screens which worked but so did the WR screens that Coley leaned on this past season.

As far as screens last year. Didn't Morris throw his first pick of the year on a screen against FAU in the first game? That might shake a new play caller just a bit. Bounced one off the helmet against UNC that wound up being a pick too.

Coley needs to progress but I'm not shocked his first recruited QB was the anti-Morris in Kaaya.

Kaaya has not played a down of CFB. Might want to wait till he has to say he is anti this and anti that. Continued over hype of players who have not left greentree for a second. SMH

Anti-Morris in his approach. I don't remember anyone saying that Morris treated the game of football like the coaches have said Kaaya does.

 

[kmwcane]

Absolutely false. SM had no pocket presence and rarely made multiple reads . Normally he'd make one read, then roll out. Usually ending up in a throw away or run out of bounds.

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Well yeah, Coley was anti-middle of the field with Morris as a QB. I would've been too.

Throwing across the middle, the most highly trafficked area of the field, is the last thing you do with an erratic QB that misses high and/or throws the ball with no touch. That is offensive football 101. Coley was scheming around Morris' limitations. Deep throws and throws towards the sidelines are the safest throws for someone with a skillset like Morris.

 

[canecountry3]

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Well yeah, Coley was anti-middle of the field with Morris as a QB. I would've been too.

Throwing across the middle, the most highly trafficked area of the field, is the last thing you do with an erratic QB that misses high and/or throws the ball with no touch. That is offensive football 101. Coley was scheming around Morris' limitations. Deep throws and throws towards the sidelines are the safest throws for someone with a skillset like Morris.

This is all that needs to be written on the matter.

 

[supacane]

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Which players weren't put in position to succeed? Hurns? Who had the best year yardage wise of any Miami WR. Waters with his 6 TDs? Coley?

Must be really missing Duke's 8.2 per catch from that season. Mike James did his damage mostly on screens which worked but so did the WR screens that Coley leaned on this past season.

As far as screens last year. Didn't Morris throw his first pick of the year on a screen against FAU in the first game? That might shake a new play caller just a bit. Bounced one off the helmet against UNC that wound up being a pick too.

Coley needs to progress but I'm not shocked his first recruited QB was the anti-Morris in Kaaya.

Kaaya has not played a down of CFB. Might want to wait till he has to say he is anti this and anti that. Continued over hype of players who have not left greentree for a second. SMH

Anti-Morris in his approach. I don't remember anyone saying that Morris treated the game of football like the coaches have said Kaaya does.

He is a true FR. U have no idea what he will be on the field. Every new QB was the saviour since Kyle Wright. Prove something before all this none sense. He hasnt done anything. And the ones on their knees blowing him are the first ones to turn on said players and start calling them names

 

[fincane]

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Which players weren't put in position to succeed? Hurns? Who had the best year yardage wise of any Miami WR. Waters with his 6 TDs? Coley?

Must be really missing Duke's 8.2 per catch from that season. Mike James did his damage mostly on screens which worked but so did the WR screens that Coley leaned on this past season.

As far as screens last year. Didn't Morris throw his first pick of the year on a screen against FAU in the first game? That might shake a new play caller just a bit. Bounced one off the helmet against UNC that wound up being a pick too.

Coley needs to progress but I'm not shocked his first recruited QB was the anti-Morris in Kaaya.

Kaaya has not played a down of CFB. Might want to wait till he has to say he is anti this and anti that. Continued over hype of players who have not left greentree for a second. SMH

Anti-Morris in his approach. I don't remember anyone saying that Morris treated the game of football like the coaches have said Kaaya does.

He is a true FR. U have no idea what he will be on the field. Every new QB was the saviour since Kyle Wright. Prove something before all this none sense. He hasnt done anything. And the ones on their knees blowing him are the first ones to turn on said players and start calling them names

He could be awful but you're clearly missing the point. Coley went to California and got from all appearances a guy who treats football like his job. That has nothing to do with expectations, potential or him being a Greentree AA. You've responded two times to something and I didn't mention Kaaya's potential on-field performance once.

 

[Canesfan1899]

The kid was running for his life almost every snap - and I dont mean on the deep routes --- even in the shotgun he didnt have time

Not true. Watch the tape. He left the pocket for perceived pressure. Stephen had 0 pocket awareness, presence or movement. If he saw any flash of pressure he bailed. We actually pass protected pretty well last year.

This.

 

[k9cane]

The kid was running for his life almost every snap - and I dont mean on the deep routes --- even in the shotgun he didnt have time

Not true. Watch the tape. He left the pocket for perceived pressure. Stephen had 0 pocket awareness, presence or movement. If he saw any flash of pressure he bailed. We actually pass protected pretty well last year.

This.

That's another issue many had with Morris, he would always bail out out of the pocket, instead of stepping up into it. Would kill a lot of downfield passing plays

 

[cane since birth]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

Are you related to morris? Because its obvious that you didnt see the same things we and other coaches who said all the same thing everyone else saw from morris, maube you should go rewatch some games

I don't need to rewatch ****. In 2012 Duke had 27 Catches for over 200 yards in 2013 against a much easier schedule he had 4. In addition in 2012 Mike James had 30 catches for over 340 yards. Our team was much younger and less experience and it was still Morris throwing the ball. Don't let some facts get in the way of your agenda of blaming players for coaching deficiencies

Lmao, go back and watch games then come back to me about the whole morris got screwed by coaching thing, but since you want to go there with the RB passes, so does throwing to the RB on screen plays make him a better QB??? Does that mean if he had more of those plays he would stop over throwing guys, stop having tunnel vision, stop using bad footwork, make him read defenses? Because those are all things he does and has nothing to do with play calling, sh¡t morris even under threw scree plays under fischs system

 

[niner]

Our schedule was tough as **** in 2012. Don't forget that ****. We played ND and K St OOC on the road. Our schedule was pansy last season.

It's amazing that people want to use the excuse that Morris only did well, because he lit up some scrubs in the second half of the season, but when the alternative is proposed that nearly our entire season was that soft schedule last year, noone will acknowledge it.

No need to guestimate which schedule was tougher, there is an actual stat that tells you. They were pretty much the same.

SOS
2012: 42nd
2013: 44th

 

[Jsily]

How does it make sense to have two tail backs on the field at the same time let alone stick him in the slot when you have tons of talent at wide out. I'm calling BS

 

[lauderdaleballer]

How does it make sense to have two tail backs on the field at the same time let alone stick him in the slot when you have tons of talent at wide out. I'm calling BS

Exactly!!! We supposedly have a deep wideout core... We don't need Yearby in the slot... That complicates things...

 

[Miami82]

How does it make sense to have two tail backs on the field at the same time let alone stick him in the slot when you have tons of talent at wide out. I'm calling BS

Exactly!!! We supposedly have a deep wideout core... We don't need Yearby in the slot... That complicates things...

Why would you even risk losing your backup. Isn't Yearby right behind Duke?

 

[poncho0091]

Our schedule was tough as **** in 2012. Don't forget that ****. We played ND and K St OOC on the road. Our schedule was pansy last season.

It's amazing that people want to use the excuse that Morris only did well, because he lit up some scrubs in the second half of the season, but when the alternative is proposed that nearly our entire season was that soft schedule last year, noone will acknowledge it.

No need to guestimate which schedule was tougher, there is an actual stat that tells you. They were pretty much the same.

SOS
2012: 42nd
2013: 44th

Lets not forget in that 2013 SOS is a bowl game which adds an extra game in which we played a ranked team which boosts that SOS. We played 3 ranked teams, 1 of which finished the season with 4 wins. The other 2 we played curb stomped us. If we take away the bowl game since we didn't have one in 2012, it leaves us with FSU and UF. We played 3 ranked teams in 2012 during the regular season, all of which were still ranked at season's end and the worst one K St still finished 12th (higher) than our second best opponent (Louisville) from this year.

 

[supacane]

How does it make sense to have two tail backs on the field at the same time let alone stick him in the slot when you have tons of talent at wide out. I'm calling BS

The defense call packages based on offensive personnel. If Duke and Yearby is on the field they most likely will be covered by LB and safeties. You would count on them to win those matchups. Now if the D tries to cover them with CBs you simply run it. Match up problems

 

[jakeman1]

Morris made the offensive live look bad. The only times he got the ball out fast were when he had pre-determined where he was going to throw. It was a different offense even with Williams in the game when Morris was injured. Morris did better under Fisch, but against good defenses, he still struggled. He wasn't good enough to sustain drives when the deep ball was taken away.

 

[the storm]

We all know that Morris was limited last year due to injury but Coley is going to get booed off the field if he does the looking to the sideline stuff again this year. Maybe Golden should take over the play calling.

 

[PUNCICANE]

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Well yeah, Coley was anti-middle of the field with Morris as a QB. I would've been too.

Throwing across the middle, the most highly trafficked area of the field, is the last thing you do with an erratic QB that misses high and/or throws the ball with no touch. That is offensive football 101. Coley was scheming around Morris' limitations. Deep throws and throws towards the sidelines are the safest throws for someone with a skillset like Morris.

Agreed, but he could have just sacked up and started Ryan Williams instead of a hobbled Morris...

 

[KevinCaneFace]

I'm not sure Coley was calling every play to the sideline or a deep ball. Some of that was Morris not looking to his checkdowns and staying locked on certain receivers.