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[Biscayne]

I'm shocked that we got as much as we did out of Morris.

Oh, and to do who say Fisch made SteMo so much better a QB than Coley:

SEASON G-GS COMP ATT YDS PCT TD INT LG
2012 12-12 245 421 3,345 58.2 21 7 87
2013 13-13 198 344 3,028 57.6 21 12 84

 

[The Franchise]

This . The staff was scared of short underneath routes with Morris, high throws across the middle are bad news.

Exactly. And when everything is a fastball those short passes tend to bounce off helmets and hands and into defenders' hands.

Snickers had no touch or natural feel for the nuances of the position, and a lot of that had to do with him not being a football junkie. He never came off as a student of the game. Instead, he just relied on that howitzer.

Morris was Nuke Laloosh: million dollar arm, ten cent head...

You need a gym rat at that position. The game is too complex these days to roll out of bed on Saturday and just start slinging it. Unless you're a freak athlete like Manziel or Vick you need to be a gym rat. I don't think Snickers ever really cared enough about football. He was one of those new age renaissance guys.

Exactly, more than ever, that QB is an extension of your OC and if you don't have that 'first one in, last to leave the building' guy as a QB, you're in trouble. I remember Kenny Kelly, having this same problem, I remember a coach on the UM staff during that period flat out telling me and a friend,"Kenny Kelly, simply was not a student of the game." Right there, was all I needed to know why Ken Dorsey was our leader from that period.

That's why I love Kaaya's future, he loves football. This is what he wants to do with his life. It's not just a hobby or extracurricular activity

Kevin Olsen? Well, uhhh, yeah....

Exactly.

 

[k9cane]

I'm shocked that we got as much as we did out of Morris.

Oh, and to do who say Fisch made SteMo so much better a QB than Coley:

SEASON G-GS COMP ATT YDS PCT TD INT LG
2012 12-12 245 421 3,345 58.2 21 7 87
2013 13-13 198 344 3,028 57.6 21 12 84

Interesting, in defense of Morris, he was hobbled for at least a third of the season with a bum ankle. But again, his limitations were far beyond the physical ones

 

[The Franchise]

I'm shocked that we got as much as we did out of Morris.

Oh, and to do who say Fisch made SteMo so much better a QB than Coley:

SEASON G-GS COMP ATT YDS PCT TD INT LG
2012 12-12 245 421 3,345 58.2 21 7 87
2013 13-13 198 344 3,028 57.6 21 12 84

And he played 2013 on one leg and much of it without one of the best players in football (duke). He was the same guy in 2013 as he was as a true freshman under Whip and as a junior under fish.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Wait....so we are going back to Patrick nix and everyone is excited??

I don't recall Nix calling many quick slants or using the middle of the field. He was the king of the QB draw and bubble screens to nowhere.

 

[supacane]

Our schedule was tough as **** in 2012. Don't forget that ****. We played ND and K St OOC on the road. Our schedule was pansy last season.

 

[supacane]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

 

[poncho0091]

The kid was running for his life almost every snap - and I dont mean on the deep routes --- even in the shotgun he didnt have time

Absolutely false. SM had no pocket presence and rarely made multiple reads . Normally he'd make one read, then roll out. Usually ending up in a throw away or run out of bounds.

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

 

[fincane]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

Who the **** gives the defense any leeway? Just talking to talk.

Morris wasn't good in 2012 or 2013 and the legend of Jedd Fisch is a ridiculous one. How about Jedd Fisch builds this into offense? You're down 16-10 to heavily favored FSU in 2012. You've got the ball in the redzone. Don't put in Robert Lockhart, a freshman who had been injured the entire year and have Morris throw a fade to him. Morris threw it out of bounds by the way. I went and just watched the play again and even the great and powerful Jedd Fisch couldn't get Morris to drop the ball off to Mike James who leaked out to the right and was open for a first down. Same guy he always was.

 

[poncho0091]

Duke had 4 catches last year. That's not just Morris. U guys blame Highsmith and Rodgers etc for every problem on D and every problem on O on Morris.

How often did we see Duke leak out of the backfield on pass plays with no one near him while Snickers was locked in on his primary option? I know I saw it a ton. If the RB consistently leaks out into the flats and the QB either doesn't see him or doesn't want to check it down to him, then that's on the QB.

Morris was incapable of throwing a screen pass. He'd either throw into the dirt or directly into the back of a lineman. He was a one trick pony.

Interesting considering it wasn't a problem the year before. It amazes me that people make statements like this and completely forget that it was not an issue before. Let's see you have a qb who is looking solid (not great), but the sky is the limit under one OC, the same OC who also fixed JH who was a wreck. Then we bring in a new rookie OC and the guy looks like garbage. Let's just assume the guy is the problem and the new, rookie OC is completely flawless.

 

[supacane]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

Who the **** gives the defense any leeway? Just talking to talk.

Morris wasn't good in 2012 or 2013 and the legend of Jedd Fisch is a ridiculous one. How about Jedd Fisch builds this into offense? You're down 16-10 to heavily favored FSU in 2012. You've got the ball in the redzone. Don't put in Robert Lockhart, a freshman who had been injured the entire year and have Morris throw a fade to him. Morris threw it out of bounds by the way. I went and just watched the play again and even the great and powerful Jedd Fisch couldn't get Morris to drop the ball off to Mike James who leaked out to the right and was open for a first down. Same guy he always was.

The same ones criticizing Morris as the sole reason for our offensive ineptitude are the same ones supporting No D. It's one in the same

 

[Biscayne]

Duke had 4 catches last year. That's not just Morris. U guys blame Highsmith and Rodgers etc for every problem on D and every problem on O on Morris.

How often did we see Duke leak out of the backfield on pass plays with no one near him while Snickers was locked in on his primary option? I know I saw it a ton. If the RB consistently leaks out into the flats and the QB either doesn't see him or doesn't want to check it down to him, then that's on the QB.

Morris was incapable of throwing a screen pass. He'd either throw into the dirt or directly into the back of a lineman. He was a one trick pony.

Interesting considering it wasn't a problem the year before. It amazes me that people make statements like this and completely forget that it was not an issue before. Let's see you have a qb who is looking solid (not great), but the sky is the limit under one OC, the same OC who also fixed JH who was a wreck. Then we bring in a new rookie OC and the guy looks like garbage. Let's just assume the guy is the problem and the new, rookie OC is completely flawless.

Poncho, Morris had nearly identical numbers last year compared to 2012 even though he was injured for a majority of the season.

SEASON G-GS COMP ATT YDS PCT TD INT LG
2012 12-12 245 421 3,345 58.2 21 7 87
2013 13-13 198 344 3,028 57.6 21 12 84

 

[supacane]

Absolutely false. SM had no pocket presence and rarely made multiple reads . Normally he'd make one read, then roll out. Usually ending up in a throw away or run out of bounds.

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Thank you. When Duke Johnson has 4 receptions in like 8 games that is not just Morris. The TE and RBs were not featured in the offense.

 

[cane since birth]

Oh yeah and 3 different OC in 4 years doesn't help either but that's not relevant now is it? I'm certain Morris would have went up another notch if he had Fisch back again. It's ok to give No D unlimited leeway and years to field a average defense but the QB on his third OC should light it up under a rookie play caller who shares none of the blame. U better pray am wrong. The difference between Fisch and Coley. Fisch built the outlet passes into the offense and not just a after thought just in case u remember and he was decent at setting up plays. I haven't seen that ability from Coley. He reminded me of Whipple.

Are you related to morris? Because its obvious that you didnt see the same things we and other coaches who said all the same thing everyone else saw from morris, maube you should go rewatch some games

 

[supacane]

Duke had 4 catches last year. That's not just Morris. U guys blame Highsmith and Rodgers etc for every problem on D and every problem on O on Morris.

How often did we see Duke leak out of the backfield on pass plays with no one near him while Snickers was locked in on his primary option? I know I saw it a ton. If the RB consistently leaks out into the flats and the QB either doesn't see him or doesn't want to check it down to him, then that's on the QB.

Morris was incapable of throwing a screen pass. He'd either throw into the dirt or directly into the back of a lineman. He was a one trick pony.

Interesting considering it wasn't a problem the year before. It amazes me that people make statements like this and completely forget that it was not an issue before. Let's see you have a qb who is looking solid (not great), but the sky is the limit under one OC, the same OC who also fixed JH who was a wreck. Then we bring in a new rookie OC and the guy looks like garbage. Let's just assume the guy is the problem and the new, rookie OC is completely flawless.

Poncho, Morris had nearly identical numbers last year compared to 2012 even though he was injured for a majority of the season.

SEASON G-GS COMP ATT YDS PCT TD INT LG
2012 12-12 245 421 3,345 58.2 21 7 87
2013 13-13 198 344 3,028 57.6 21 12 84

Did u also look at who we played against. I'm sure you didn't

 

[poncho0091]

Our schedule was tough as **** in 2012. Don't forget that ****. We played ND and K St OOC on the road. Our schedule was pansy last season.

It's amazing that people want to use the excuse that Morris only did well, because he lit up some scrubs in the second half of the season, but when the alternative is proposed that nearly our entire season was that soft schedule last year, noone will acknowledge it.

 

[Billy D Williams]

I saw HS teams with more diversified offenses than what I saw from Coley. He was a predictable as an afternoon thunderstorm. Not to mention his play calling was too slow which in turn made the offense too slow. We need better tempo, no stop and look to the sideline for the call. With all the weapons we have if he sped up the tempo it wouldn't allow the defense make reads.

 

[fincane]

Absolutely false. SM had no pocket presence and rarely made multiple reads . Normally he'd make one read, then roll out. Usually ending up in a throw away or run out of bounds.

This....also, to say the staff didn't call inside passes is stupid. The route trees clearly had inside routes, Morris just never went to them. Granted that maybe because he seemed incapable of multiple reads, but that's on Morris. I expect us to be a much more efficient offense this year, especially on third down.

The only people who ever were inside were the TE and the occasionally the rb. The greatest strength of using a TE in the passing game is to take advantage of a lb essentially covering a receiver, but that doesn't work when the TE runs the same 5 yard hitch routes and the WR are always running deep. It's too predictable and the LB gets to stand by and wait for the qb to try and make the pass.

Go back and watch, this is completely false. We had people running inside patterns just like everyone else. Morris never looked over the middle. Period.

I did watch. I even broke it down in a thread after one of our games last year. I think it was like 30 something passing plays and a wide receiver crossed the middle of the field maybe 5-6 times. Like I said, TE's and rb got to sit on the hashmarks more often, but we didn't utilize mid field effectively or efficiently. Seriously, Coley is in love with TE's on the hash marks, WR streaks and WR outside hitches to the sideline. He is anti WR crossing over the middle where we should be taking advantage with our WR crop.

I'm not putting all the blame on Coley. Morris didn't do himself any favors, but, Coley did not put our players in a position to succeed. If you doubt this, go look at the number of receptions our rbs had the year before (with Morris at qb) compared to last year and see how much it dropped off. We have one of the best receiving cores in college football and all we did was have them run deep routes.

Which players weren't put in position to succeed? Hurns? Who had the best year yardage wise of any Miami WR. Waters with his 6 TDs? Coley?

Must be really missing Duke's 8.2 per catch from that season. Mike James did his damage mostly on screens which worked but so did the WR screens that Coley leaned on this past season.

As far as screens last year. Didn't Morris throw his first pick of the year on a screen against FAU in the first game? That might shake a new play caller just a bit. Bounced one off the helmet against UNC that wound up being a pick too.

Coley needs to progress but I'm not shocked his first recruited QB was the anti-Morris in Kaaya.

 

[fincane]

I saw HS teams with more diversified offenses than what I saw from Coley. He was a predictable as an afternoon thunderstorm. Not to mention his play calling was too slow which in turn made the offense too slow. We need better tempo, no stop and look to the sideline for the call. With all the weapons we have if he sped up the tempo it wouldn't allow the defense make reads.

The look to the sidelines thing began in 2012 with Fisch. That wasn't new. Oregon looks to the sideline too and they have no problems playing fast. So does Auburn.

 

[fincane]

Our schedule was tough as **** in 2012. Don't forget that ****. We played ND and K St OOC on the road. Our schedule was pansy last season.

It's amazing that people want to use the excuse that Morris only did well, because he lit up some scrubs in the second half of the season, but when the alternative is proposed that nearly our entire season was that soft schedule last year, noone will acknowledge it.

Morris was the QB for both teams so I'm not sure what the point is. He was average in 2013 and 2012. The schedule argument doesn't help Morris. The schedule was weaker and the offensive players around him were better and more experienced until injuries took their toll and he wasn't any better.