Something to keep in mind when you see Miami departures

[Calinative]

Parrish was the best back in every game he played in.

FWIW I’m not disagreeing with you. We need more explosiveness in that room. Just stating the obvious.

Well that’s just not true though lol.

He played in Louisville, NCSt, and UVA game and barely got the ball. Those are games Fletcher did well in except for UVA which was Ajay Allen. He also played terrrible against GTech - where Chaney was definitely our best RB.

I mean he played well against A&M, UNC, and Boston college. Dont particularly care much about Temple, Miami, and Bethune.

So he started out as our best rb. As season went on he lost the job. And that’s when the others played well. He played great against Boston College, so he ended strong. But the entire middle of the season he was non-existent.

 

[PIPO]

My only concern is that they’re going for the bird in the bush approach again. Okunlola as a DE is a proven college commodity, not a flaky recruit or a reclassifying 2025 kid.

I say this without considering that it will keep Okunlola in Miami for at least two more seasons.

Especially since FSU offered him because you know what their main angle is - to get Pancake up north.

 

[CreativeCane]

I think you have to take Okunlola's bro for the simple fact it keeps Samson here.

The fact that he was an All ACC team freshman just makes it a cherry on top.

Bad move to pass on him, regardless of what freshman they sign.

I mean, Samson signed here without his brother, so it's not like he's completely leaning on his brother's destination as his, at least not up to this point. And as someone else already said, maybe he wants guaranteed playing time, which he we can't guarantee here at the moment.

Not all brothers have a need to play together.

 

[Calinative]

He got hurt against UNC. When he finally came back healthy he rushed for 111 on 10 att and 2 TDs. He avg 1.5 more yards than any back, led the team in rushing and TDs despite getting the fewest att between DC and Fletch. Parrish is a dog and a great example to the young kids. He plays as physical as anyone on the team. Why give that up when him and Fletch are the perfect complement?

Got hurt in UNC then proceeded to get snaps and carries in 3 games where he did nothing. Does that not meet the criteria of “every game he played he was our best RB”? lol

I get his ypc was better. But pretty much it was all the Boston college game. Fletcher had like a 4.8ypc from after temple. Parrish had 5.27ypc. Allen had 5.2…

So when you say he was our best rb… he was to start the season and against Boston college. I think his production would be the same next year. He’s solid. Ur you say he’s perfect with Fletcher. But is he that different from Allen? Does Chris Johnson have more potential that we should get snaps to?

I’m just saying I wouldn’t expect Parrish to get a crap load of snaps here by mid/end of season same way he didn’t last year. Again I’m confident he’d produce at the same level he has his entire career which is solid. Fringing on good. Just you KNOW it’s not going to be great

 

[tdjones34]

The staff expects to sign a big class, both from high school and the Portal. So a lot of these departures are not necessarily the choice of the players or recruits.

Judge the total picture when the dust settles.

What D means is you're dumb and not good at math.

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

What's wrong with older and better??

Nothing I suppose. I'm a little jaded at the older transfer guys we still have on the roster, along with the ones who left and did not pan out.... Ladson, Denis, Sagopolu, and so on.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

What's wrong with older and better??

That’s the issue I have with some that say this room is loaded and that room is loaded.

Calling a room “stacked” based on young players that have sparingly played is ludicrous, misleading and flat-out wrong. I am a proud star *****, and stars do generally lead to more wins and more draft picks…but it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re already first-team all conference players. They need to be developed and groomed. The potential is there for a stacked room, but it’s not stacked yet. There isn’t a stacked group on this team except OL imo, and the overall record reflects that. Even DE like JayCane said has a bonafide star, and a bunch of injury prone and/or talented young guys that haven’t quite put it together yet.

Potential? Absolutely. Top tier potential, elite. Now…Proven to be a top-tier unit in college football? No, because most haven’t played or have played in garbage time.

In the meantime, we need players in the portal to bridge the gap. More importantly, we need to win games…so in essence, most of these players should have a track record of success in college. And we need to hit on a large majority of these players, way more than ‘22 and ‘23.

If we’re going to be gutting the roster (which we allegedly did in ‘22 and ‘23) for a large high school class, we’re banking on two things:

- youth being thrown into the fire
- Nailing this portal class to a tee in order to “bridge the gap” and allow some late bloomers in both the ‘23 class and guys in the ‘24 class to get acclimated for ‘25.

A lot is hypothetical before we see who exactly enters the portal and who we snag from the HS ranks. Going to be a rollercoaster of an offseason, but gotta trust Mario to sort the roster out in order to achieve success in ‘24 and beyond.

 

[BoxingRobes]

You’re crazy, this is the best time of year.

Recruiting and portal info is like crack.

Some of these boys we post with can't handle the heat. You see this board lately? Sheesh.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Well that’s just not true though lol.

He played in Louisville, NCSt, and UVA game and barely got the ball. Those are games Fletcher did well in except for UVA which was Ajay Allen. He also played terrrible against GTech - where Chaney was definitely our best RB.

I mean he played well against A&M, UNC, and Boston college. Dont particularly care much about Temple, Miami, and Bethune.

So he started out as our best rb. As season went on he lost the job. And that’s when the others played well. He played great against Boston College, so he ended strong. But the entire middle of the season he was non-existent.

I’ll give you GT. But Chaney is no longer here. Comparing Parrish to Fletcher, in the NC State game he averaged 5 YPC just like Fletcher did. Fletcher just got all the carries. Every other one he got more than 1-2 carries (like the ones you mentioned) bc he supposedly wasn’t 100%, he was the best back in all of them. And if he was actually healthy in any of those games and just didn’t get the ball, that’s not on him. Parrish also averaged about a half yard more per carry than Fletcher in ACC play.

Fletcher obviously has a much higher ceiling, but I’m actually in favor of Parrish leaving just like you bc I want CJJ and hopefully Riley to get more carries. Next year is important and with a legit portal QB this team could make noise. But the real prize is in 2025. If the D line class closes with elite guys, you have them with experience in year 2 along side Wayne, Bain, etc. Young OL is experienced. Young receiving core is ready, DB room is better, hopefully LB is better etc. That’s when you see if you can make a real run at it.

 

[Page305]

Nothing I suppose. I'm a little jaded at the older transfer guys we still have on the roster, along with the ones who l

That’s the issue I have with some that say this room is loaded and that room is loaded.

Calling a room “stacked” based on young players that have sparingly played is ludicrous, misleading and flat-out wrong. I am a proud star *****, and stars do generally lead to more wins and more draft picks…but it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re already first-team all conference players. They need to be developed and groomed. The potential is there for a stacked room, but it’s not stacked yet. There isn’t a stacked group on this team except OL imo, and the overall record reflects that. Even DE like JayCane said has a bonafide star, and a bunch of injury prone and/or talented young guys that haven’t quite put it together yet.

Potential? Absolutely. Top tier potential, elite. Now…Proven to be a top-tier unit in college football? No, because most haven’t played or have played in garbage time.

In the meantime, we need players in the portal to bridge the gap. More importantly, we need to win games…so in essence, most of these players should have a track record of success in college. And we need to hit on a large majority of these players, way more than ‘22 and ‘23.

If we’re going to be gutting the roster (which we allegedly did in ‘22 and ‘23) for a large high school class, we’re banking on two things:

- youth being thrown into the fire
- Nailing this portal class to a tee in order to “bridge the gap” and allow some late bloomers in both the ‘23 class and guys in the ‘24 class to get acclimated for ‘25.

A lot is hypothetical before we see who exactly enters the portal and who we snag from the HS ranks. Going to be a rollercoaster of an offseason, but gotta trust Mario to sort the roster out in order to achieve success in ‘24 and beyond.

I absolutely agree with everything you said.

 

[chris2183l]

Nobody.

Has the Damari situation been cleared up? I'd say his loss would hurt some for sure

 

[Calinative]

That’s the issue I have with some that say this room is loaded and that room is loaded.

Calling a room “stacked” based on young players that have sparingly played is ludicrous, misleading and flat-out wrong. I am a proud star *****, and stars do generally lead to more wins and more draft picks…but it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re already first-team all conference players. They need to be developed and groomed. The potential is there for a stacked room, but it’s not stacked yet. There isn’t a stacked group on this team except OL imo, and the overall record reflects that. Even DE like JayCane said has a bonafide star, and a bunch of injury prone and/or talented young guys that haven’t quite put it together yet.

Potential? Absolutely. Top tier potential, elite. Now…Proven to be a top-tier unit in college football? No, because most haven’t played or have played in garbage time.

In the meantime, we need players in the portal to bridge the gap. More importantly, we need to win games…so in essence, most of these players should have a track record of success in college. And we need to hit on a large majority of these players, way more than ‘22 and ‘23.

If we’re going to be gutting the roster (which we allegedly did in ‘22 and ‘23) for a large high school class, we’re banking on two things:

- youth being thrown into the fire
- Nailing this portal class to a tee in order to “bridge the gap” and allow some late bloomers in both the ‘23 class and guys in the ‘24 class to get acclimated for ‘25.

A lot is hypothetical before we see who exactly enters the portal and who we snag from the HS ranks. Going to be a rollercoaster of an offseason, but gotta trust Mario to sort the roster out in order to achieve success in ‘24 and beyond.

But ultimately this is a numbers game. We can’t have 12 DEs. Something has to give. Either you sacrifice some of our Hs class or other positions to bring someone like Okunlola in. And that’s the case at other positions too. Drops have to be made somewhere. And a lot is you know what you have in guys that anre sophomore/juniors. So a guy like chase smith, should he be expected to contribute? If not shouldn’t he be shown the door? I mean maybe he’s a late bloomer or will be valuable for ST…

Again I’d want Okunlola cause he was proven to be good early. But the numbers at DE IF we flip Stewart/Blount just won’t add up all that well.

Now I’d rather be stacked at DE and undermanned at Lb… so I’d take Okunlola and then force ourselves to play a young lb. But there are tradeoffs.

Ultimately we NEED young guys to develop and step up or we will never be good. Like our young Lbs needs to have guys step up period. Same at RB and WR.

 

[Calinative]

Also there just are positions I feel more comfortable relying on young guys. RB is one of them. If we had a stud like Etienne, I’d be cool. But Parrish? I don’t think he’s really worth it when we have Allen/Johnson that are also in that “lightning” to Fletchers thunder role.

Honestly to me one of Parrish/Allen probably shouldn’t be returning.

 

[S.CarolinaCane]

In other words we will have some painful departures

I would say we were a lot more excited when some of these guys committed out of high school. But if you're a highly touted recruit that can't work your way into the depth chart. You might need a change of scenery

 

[BS85]

Fwiw, Gaby said he was told yesterday that we won’t be going after Samson’s brother

Nothing is easy with this school

 

[BS85]

Y'all assume Samson even wants his brother here.

Um, yes im assuming that

 

[sharkindaawater]

Guys that need to leave imo:
Parrish
Shemar kirk
Michael Redding
Cam McCormick
Logan sagopalu
Jonathan Denis
Chris Washington
Demetrius freeney
Brian balom
Cyrus moss?
Chase smith?

As well as all guys already in portal obviously

Shemar Kirk just got here. Chase smith? No to both of those

 

[skyman]

I thought he tore his ACL which would have him out at least into the fall, if not longer.

2 years at miami.. welcome to uhellth

 

[Sabetta]

Well that’s just not true though lol.

He played in Louisville, NCSt, and UVA game and barely got the ball. Those are games Fletcher did well in except for UVA which was Ajay Allen. He also played terrrible against GTech - where Chaney was definitely our best RB.

I mean he played well against A&M, UNC, and Boston college. Dont particularly care much about Temple, Miami, and Bethune.

So he started out as our best rb. As season went on he lost the job. And that’s when the others played well. He played great against Boston College, so he ended strong. But the entire middle of the season he was non-existent.

Bro wtf are you even talking about? He was trying to play through a very obvious injury. After leaving the UNC hurt (where he carried the ball 13 for 79) he got 6 total att his next 4 games. It has nothing to do with Fletcher passing him up it was an injury.
If you remember Fletcher was hurt too. He got more att than Parrish in the BC game and went for 3.7 YPC. He also only went over 5 YPC once. I’m not putting the kid down even though I think he’s got a ways to go but to act like we can just throw Parrish out the door and easily replace him with two guys who’ve never gotten college att and Fletch is ludicrous.
And again, nobody on this team other than maybe Bain, Kiko and a few OL play as physical and has the heart he does. This young team needs to see that.

 

[USNAVYCANE]

The staff expects to sign a big class, both from high school and the Portal. So a lot of these departures are not necessarily the choice of the players or recruits.

Judge the total picture when the dust settles.

Naaaaa, I’m gonna jump to conclusions asap