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This could have been avoided. But no let's sell the fanbase on recruiting 3*s that no one wants because the portal is easier. These Lions are my shining light. No excuses just go play football.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
So this was all fun to argue but it’s 2am at the bar and even the tortas are leaving.

Is there a legitimate plan to land a QB or not? Because all this arguing is mute. If we don’t land one, you’re essentially punting on 2025 being a ceiling of 8-4…more likely 6-6 or worse.

8-4 would involve the defense doing a complete 180, Nickel being a stud immediately, the DL taking a gigantic step forward, Daniels turning into a WR1, Trader going for 800+ yards. That’s probably not happening.

The other thing people forget is how healthy we were in 2024. That’s almost guaranteed not to happen next year. What massive contributors did we lose to serious injuries? No one. We lost a Richard for like three games. Alston missed like 2. Bain missed meaningless non-cons and VT. We were extremely healthy.
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Nothing to argue over. Miami always tries to reinvent the wheel by taking shortcuts. Their is one proven way to build a contender. Stack talent across the board. Instead we fall hostage every offseason and try to budget to field a solid ACC team.
 
Hurracanes said:
This is one of the rare times I don’t agree with you. The staff thought very highly of Emory. If they didn’t, we would already have a QB in place, and Emory would likely be in the portal by now.
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And here is how this should resolve itself...

1. I understand expressions of INTERNAL confidence, to give Emory confidence, to give the team confidence. Ultimately, that doesn't prevent you from hitting the Portal.

2. I LESS understand taking a position of EXTERNAL confidence that prevent a team from DOING SOMETHING. As in "hey, Fernando, we're good at QB". That part is bull****. At a bare minimum, we are losing BOTH Ward and Poff, and only enrolling Nickel. Purely from a numbers standpoint, we need SOMEBODY else. And we haven't even signed Poff's replacement, let alone determined definitively whether Emory is Cam's replacement (which we all know he is not, particularly post-PopTarts).

Even The Gator took a lower-level Portal QB as a BACKUP (nobody envisions him competing with Lagway). We've taken...NOBODY...

It's time. I like Emory. I don't want to lose Emory (certainly not at this time). But if he can't see that a borderline-CFP team (2024) facing ND and UF in September 2025 cannot possibly put all of its eggs in the basket of a guy who played 1.9 games in 2023 and 0.5 games in 2024. Even Emory, in all of his strongest confidence, cannot possibly be angry at UM for trying to get some ACTUAL GAME EXPERIENCE in place prior to September 2025.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
So this was all fun to argue but it’s 2am at the bar and even the tortas are leaving.

Is there a legitimate plan to land a QB or not? Because all this arguing is mute. If we don’t land one, you’re essentially punting on 2025 being a ceiling of 8-4…more likely 6-6 or worse.

8-4 would involve the defense doing a complete 180, Nickel being a stud immediately, the DL taking a gigantic step forward, Daniels turning into a WR1, Trader going for 800+ yards. That’s probably not happening.

The other thing people forget is how healthy we were in 2024. That’s almost guaranteed not to happen next year. What massive contributors did we lose to serious injuries? No one. We lost a Richard for like three games. Alston missed like 4 and he was a rotational piece. Bain missed meaningless non-cons and VT. We were extremely healthy for all intents and purposes.
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Clearly a mope post because you didn’t even mention Damari Browns injury
 
T$$$ said:
I may have missed it if this was mentioned somewhere else.....but casually dropping "they offered arch manning money to be Cam's successor" is sure to earn this post 100 more pages.
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And yet, it should NOT result in 100 more pages.

Miami should always be, AND IS ALWAYS, doing its due diligence. This mythical misunderstanding of Miami's process as "we respond once a name is officially in the Portal" is just insanity.

How people think we are NOT constantly having conversations with NIL agents and back-channeling through third-party intermediaries, I have no idea.
 
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Hurracanes said:
This is one of the rare times I don’t agree with you. The staff thought very highly of Emory. If they didn’t, we would already have a QB in place, and Emory would likely be in the portal by now.
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I think they did as a back up. I felt the plan was always a bridge qb to nickel. maybe im wrong.
 
nycane said:
I think they did as a back up. I felt the plan was always a bridge qb to nickel. maybe im wrong.
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That is correct but they weren’t going to drop big $ unless it was too good to pass on ala Mateer. We missed on many QB’s for different reasons but the common denominator was because they felt they didn’t need to go the Cam route. And here we are..
 
Hurracanes said:
That is correct but they weren’t going to drop big $ unless it was too good to pass on ala Mateer. We missed on many QB’s for different reasons but the common denominator was because they felt they didn’t need to go the Cam route. And here we are..
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I think it was not overpaying. like I said, I could be wrong.
 
cway313 said:
This could have been avoided. But no let's sell the fanbase on recruiting 3*s that no one wants because the portal is easier.
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The high 4* QB we had committed that year is available again. Think we should get him?

High school QB recruiting is a crap shoot. The Portal is the ticket if managed correctly. It's up to the coaches to land the plane. Mendoza would have been a layup.
 
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Hurracanes said:
This is one of the rare times I don’t agree with you. The staff thought very highly of Emory. If they didn’t, we would already have a QB in place, and Emory would likely be in the portal by now.
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Completely agree with you, no disrespect @nycane

If you believed prior to the pop tart bowl that Emory wasn’t going to be the guy, there is no way you can only go in with MATEER, knowing that that was gonna be a tough pull because the money wasn’t the only factor- coaches, nearer to home, etc

This is all a lose-lose for Mario and Dawson. Either they believed that Emory could be the guy, which really makes me question everything about their evaluations, or they didn’t and then had a terrible portal strategy on the quarterback options in admittedly a not overwhelming class of available quarterbacks so far.

Maybe they pull something out, maybe somebody new enters, or maybe they need to go back and pull somebody that the board won’t love but is still an upgrade from what we have. Or maybe Luke Nickel is a God.

Either way, if things work out, it will be by the grace of God, not through a great strategic plan.
 
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DMoney said:
The high 4* QB we had committed that year is available again. Think we should get him?

High school QB recruiting is a crap shoot. The Portal is the ticket if managed correctly. It's up to the coaches to land the plane. Mendoza would have been a layup.
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I was told Mendoza went into the portal loving Miami and would have come at a discounted price compared to others.
 
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JustAFanHTX said:
I think even a great offensive line matters non with a non factor at QB. Load the box defense always will win. So yes even without cam or a competent QB the line doesn’t matter
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Manny Diaz vs UNC would like a word with you.
 
Hurracanes said:
I am surprised we aren’t upgrading on the DL and LB rooms more. The lack of talent on that side of ball is clear as day so It’s just insane work we are only prioritizing the secondary. Come spring, the staff is going to panic and make more moves but by then it’ll be too late. This staff can’t get out of its own way. 25’ going to be a difficult season.
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We got Barrow and Baron post-Spring. There will be plenty of opportunities to upgrade.
 
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DMoney said:
The high 4* QB we had committed that year is available again. Think we should get him?

High school QB recruiting is a crap shoot. The Portal is the ticket if managed correctly. It's up to the coaches to land the plane. Mendoza would have been a layup.
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I agree those were the only 2 options 3 years ago. We also had to grab the basketball player Poff last year as our future QB. The portal is a good option as a safety net, but when you are desperate and not the sexiest option you are left in this predicament. This was predictable and last year caused the staff to get ****y.
 
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DMoney said:
Not really. Mateer got a huge offer.

I think we’ve been pursuing a riskier strategy. It worked last year. I’m more conservative- give me Mendoza and build the rest of the team up. Let’s see how it ends.
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Didnt Mendoza already sign with Indiana?
 
nycane said:
It wasn't a secret but who knows. Things change.
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I’ll say this again. Overconfidence can be a killer. The narrative was “we can make a run at Mateer.” Now it’s we can get a top qb that isn’t in the portal to turn down the nfl to come here because we did it with Cam.

It’s a dangerous game that doesn’t make sense. We’ll see how it works out but if they miss next year could be disastrous
 
COCane4Life said:
I’ll say this again. Overconfidence can be a killer. The narrative was “we can make a run at Mateer.” Now it’s we can get a top qb that isn’t in the portal to turn down the nfl to come here because we did it with Cam.

It’s a dangerous game that doesn’t make sense. We’ll see how it works out but if they miss next year could be disastrous
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you had to go for Mateer. That being said it's funny that this board hated mendoza, then when it looked like we wouldn't get him he turned into Pat Mahomes. I always thought Mendoza could do good here but ALOT of people didnt like him until he committed to Indiana.
 
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