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Not really. Mateer got a huge offer.

I think we’ve been pursuing a riskier strategy. It worked last year. I’m more conservative- give me Mendoza and build the rest of the team up. Let’s see how it ends.
Mateer was definitely the exception.

In my opinion, our conservative approach is going to backfire on us far more than is currently being discussed. I truly hope I’m wrong.

For months (really years) we’ve communicated with countless QB camps across the country, yet we’ve passed on everyone except Ward and Puff for various reasons. Despite having the resources to bring in top QBs, we somehow haven’t been able to close the deal. Something about this process feels fundamentally off.

If it wasn’t for Luke and Coleman, I would be straight panicking.
 

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With what we have lost, we are closer (right now) to the loser of the 2023 Orange Bowl than we are to the winner of that game.

We lost the top contributors from the offense - QB, RB1, 3 TEs, 2 OL and 4 WRs.
I think FSU’s problem was that they had the worst OL in the nation. They were 131st in sack percentage and 133rd in yards per rush. When there’s no foundation, the whole thing could crumble.

That’s why the 2023 Canes are the team I’m eyeing. It’s hard to be bad with a good OL, but we tried our best- not kneeling to win a game, throwing picks like you bet on the other team. Can we correct the flaws of that team with better overall talent around the QB?
 
Mateer was definitely the exception.

In my opinion, our conservative approach is going to backfire on us far more than is currently being discussed. I truly hope I’m wrong.

For months (really years) we’ve communicated with countless QB camps across the country, yet we’ve passed on everyone except Ward and Puff for various reasons. Despite having the resources to bring in top QBs, we somehow haven’t been able to close the deal. Something about this process feels fundamentally off.

If it wasn’t for Luke and Coleman, I would be straight panicking.


Well, one problem that is EASILY fixable is getting a full-time QB guru. No more limits for on-field coaching numbers.

Gattis was not a QB guru and clashed with the guy who "was". I don't think we've had anyone else besides Dawson in 2 years.

Hire a guy who is FULL-TIME looking for consistency of tools/skills and can coach that up. Let's not just recruit an "interesting mix" of skillsets like TVD and Emory and Judd and Luke and Dereon and Cam and Hufflepuff. Let's try to get guys who can run the same playbook without massive adjustments.
 
I think FSU’s problem was that they had the worst OL in the nation. They were 131st in sack percentage and 133rd in yards per rush. When there’s no foundation, the whole thing could crumble.

That’s why the 2023 Canes are the team I’m eyeing. It’s hard to be bad with a good OL, but we tried our best- not kneeling to win a game, throwing picks like you bet on the other team. Can we correct the flaws of that team with better overall talent around the QB?
Respectfully, 2023 shouldn’t be the bar in year 4 with the amount of $ invested into this program.
 
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With what we have lost, we are closer (right now) to the loser of the 2023 Orange Bowl than we are to the winner of that game. That is the opposite of the goals set out for Year 4 even by the greatest of slurpers or greatest of mopes. You discussed it in another thread - going backwards from 10 continues to **** the brand image in a time we are spending and NEED to be at the best we can appear to be.

We lost the top contributors from the offense - QB, RB1, 3 TEs, 2 OL and 4 WRs.
I like what we are doing on the defensive side in the portal but essentially replacing the entire secondary with guys that have never played together before, with no coach, and a **** poor track record of hires on that side of the ball doesn’t really give me this warm fuzzy feeling that we just need to be “solid” on offense either

Hard to be worse than we were on defense this year but I can’t just be like oh a game manager will do it because the defense can carry us

Hopefully this summer we are having different conversations
 
If we don’t upgrade our QB, it’s hard to imagine much success. Anything from 4-8 wins is possible.

That needs to be our most urgent priority, and that’s been true since before Emory stunk up the bowl. Cam gave us elite talent and elite IQ. Mendoza wouldn’t have at least replaced the IQ part, but he’s off the board. Need to find someone with veteran experience and some proven production.
Not locking down Mendoza is mind boggling. I don’t understand the overconfidence to just turn him away. You play with fire enough and eventually you get burned. We need a quarterback and options are limited to say the least.
 
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they didnt think they had something in emory, that was fluff. they offered arch manning money to be Cam's successor last year. they have been the radar for a former 5 star at a top program since the September. I think Emory is a nice kid so they dont want to bash him because the team loves him. I never believed he was starting here.
 
they didnt think they had something in emory, that was fluff. they offered arch manning money to be Cam's successor last year. they have been the radar for a former 5 star at a top program since the September. I think Emory is a nice kid so they dont want to bash him because the team loves him. I never believed he was starting here.

I may have missed it if this was mentioned somewhere else.....but casually dropping "they offered arch manning money to be Cam's successor" is sure to earn this post 100 more pages.
 
Here is how I would phrase the question to the “screwed without Ward” crew:

If you removed the QB from every team in America this past season and then ranked them, where would you rank Miami? So just ranking RB/WR/TE/OL.

Miami certainly isn’t #1 like they finished and that is a huge testament to Cam. Teams like Ohio State & Texas would still rate ahead of us. But this is still a ~top 10 squad with Martinez, arroyo and the OL. That is the point I believe D$ is trying to make.
Do you factor in the backup QB as the next one up? Based on what I saw, we would be a 5 or 6 win team with that supporting cast.

So what is that? 50ish?

Top 10 supporting cast doesn't go far when you physically can't get them the ball.

Its its far from a top 10 supporting cast in 2025 when your most productive returning WR has less than 100 yards in their career. This isn't the 2024 team.
 
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We need to be way better than that.

I'm just using 2023 as a starting point since it takes Cam Ward out of the equation. How much better can we be than that team?
With good (not great) coaching, we win 9-10 regular season games in 2023.
 
they didnt think they had something in emory, that was fluff. they offered arch manning money to be Cam's successor last year. they have been the radar for a former 5 star at a top program since the September. I think Emory is a nice kid so they dont want to bash him because the team loves him. I never believed he was starting here.
This is one of the rare times I don’t agree with you. The staff thought very highly of Emory. If they didn’t, we would already have a QB in place, and Emory would likely be in the portal by now.
 
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If we don’t upgrade our QB, it’s hard to imagine much success. Anything from 4-8 wins is possible.

That needs to be our most urgent priority, and that’s been true since before Emory stunk up the bowl. Cam gave us elite talent and elite IQ. Mendoza wouldn’t have at least replaced the IQ part, but he’s off the board. Need to find someone with veteran experience and some proven production.
Lol.
 
So this was all fun to argue but it’s 2am at the bar and even the tortas are leaving.

Is there a legitimate plan to land a QB or not? Because all this arguing is mute. If we don’t land one, you’re essentially punting on 2025 being a ceiling of 8-4…more likely 6-6 or worse.

8-4 would involve the defense doing a complete 180, Nickel being a stud immediately, the DL taking a gigantic step forward, Daniels turning into a WR1, Trader going for 800+ yards. That’s probably not happening.

The other thing people forget is how healthy we were in 2024. That’s almost guaranteed not to happen next year. What massive contributors did we lose to serious injuries? No one. We lost a Richard for like three games. Alston missed like 4 and he was a rotational piece. Bain missed meaningless non-cons and VT. We were extremely healthy for all intensive purposes.
 
If we don’t upgrade our QB, it’s hard to imagine much success. Anything from 4-8 wins is possible.

That needs to be our most urgent priority, and that’s been true since before Emory stunk up the bowl. Cam gave us elite talent and elite IQ. Mendoza wouldn’t have at least replaced the IQ part, but he’s off the board. Need to find someone with veteran experience and some proven production.
D$ any word on Sluka(SP?) the D3 prospect from Holy Cross? Are you hearing anything regarding QB's from smaller schools?
 
I don’t post much as I am not as plugged into UM as I used to be.
Honestly insider info is overrated. You are competent, well written & seem to have general football acumen that is much needed on this board. Post Moar!

.. Going to wash my hands now. I feel like I just jerked you off a bit.
 
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