Some names to watch before it’s deleted

[Canesq]

You know the one thing I never noticed about this play after all these years of sending Coley to **** for calling it...we actually had a WR wide open. LOL. I honestly thought we had nobody downfield all these years.

Lol I actually just noticed the same thing. Every time I watch I’m immediately enraged that I don’t even finish watching the throw.

 

[Kamelion4291]

when brady was brought up you all questioned if he called plays at lsu, his willingness to recruit and how long he would be here long. those same questions apply to dorsey but yet not a peep. you all care so much about dorsey because he played here, it’s that simple.

Brady had exactly one year of success. One.

Can you possibly imagine why there might be more questions around that guy?

 

[RiDLer80]

TrumpyCane wants people to know at one point every great OC hired to college or the NFL didn’t have experience calling plays but there’s a reason they were hired to do so

True, but with the money we're supposedly spending there's no reason for Miami to hire an OC who has never called plays before. Bring up a proven Group of 5 play caller before paying an OC north of $1M to learn on the job. We're past that as a program.

 

[CanesNation26]

I want someone proven. However, when you have a guy with Dorsey's resume, and his next position could very well be as an NFL OC, you take a chance. I'd understand if he was some guy still working in college and this is his first chance to call plays. That, I don't want. A guy like Dorsey, who is doing well in the NFL, and has been in the NFL for **** near two decades as a player and coach, it's just different.

I think Dorsey is worth a roll of the dice. He could potentially be a great hire. Could he be a bust? Yes. It's possible. However, every great coordinator had to start somewhere, and most of them didn't have half of Dorsey's resume before becoming one.

I'm not saying Dorsey is my first choice, but I am saying I'd be alright with the choice. ****, he might just have the highest upside of them all.

Then we're on the same page. I don't mind rolling the dice, but it's definitely a risk.

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

Gaby says he’ll have an update on the DC soon..

Here’s a preview: Mario is targeting a P5 DC, he may or may not take the job. I can see it going either way. I don’t know who it is yet though, I’ll do some digging.

Say what??? “I can See it going either way” lol “don’t know who it is tho” “I‘ll Do some digging” ?!?! Now?! Some digging now?! this guy is a rere

 

[CAT5Coming]

347 pages. WTF? Can we start up the Tom Brady as OC conversation again? Dude has to be ready to retire after the playoffs, no? Giselle has a direct flight from Miami to Sao Paolo or Rio.

That's the wrong Brady. It was always Mike Brady that was the OC candidate.

 

[88]

He's never coached or played QB. Not even in highschool.

This keeps getting thrown around. It sounded a lot like he was a QB coach at LSU.

Q. What's happening on the headsets when you guys are in between series?
STEVE ENSMINGER: As I say, Coach Brady is on his set with Joe Burrow. They're discussing what they saw. Coach Craig is on the offensive line. We're asking, Hey, what did Lloyd see. Lloyd Cushenberry is my MVP, I'm going to tell you. He makes probably 99% of the calls, and Joe has his chance to check it. As far as being around those guys and everything else, they're very seldom wrong.

Q. Is it enjoyable working with a guy like Joe Brady who is able to be a right-hand man during the game?
STEVE ENSMINGER: It is. Like I said, Joe Brady talks to Joe Burrow as much as I do. Putting in this passing system and everything else, like I said, when Joe comes off the field, he's on the phone with Brady because I'm preparing for the next series. They're going through the last series.

 

[Kamelion4291]

This keeps getting thrown around. It sounded a lot like he was a QB coach at LSU.

Q. What's happening on the headsets when you guys are in between series?
STEVE ENSMINGER: As I say, Coach Brady is on his set with Joe Burrow. They're discussing what they saw. Coach Craig is on the offensive line. We're asking, Hey, what did Lloyd see. Lloyd Cushenberry is my MVP, I'm going to tell you. He makes probably 99% of the calls, and Joe has his chance to check it. As far as being around those guys and everything else, they're very seldom wrong.

Q. Is it enjoyable working with a guy like Joe Brady who is able to be a right-hand man during the game?
STEVE ENSMINGER: It is. Like I said, Joe Brady talks to Joe Burrow as much as I do. Putting in this passing system and everything else, like I said, when Joe comes off the field, he's on the phone with Brady because I'm preparing for the next series. They're going through the last series.

You have to know that asking a QB what he saw on the field literally isn't being a QB coach, yes? Like, I have to believe you know that.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

That's the wrong Brady. It was always Mike Brady that was the OC candidate.

Mackmiller insisted that Joe Brady was once a famous sitcom father, a Presidential press secretary, AND a hilarious improvisational comedian.

 

[88]

You have to know that asking a QB what he saw on the field literally isn't being a QB coach, yes? Like, I have to believe you know that.

So Brady was in constant communication with the QB during the games and no one else? Where's the QB coach? Sounds like a bunch of semantics

 

[The U is back to work]

If we are still interviewing position coaches does that not indicate we have missed out on options?

 

[RedPill Stepdad]

Brady had exactly one year of success. One.

Can you possibly imagine why there might be more questions around that guy?

no actually i can’t imagine why there would be more questions around brady. we know what a brady offense looks like. what does a dorsey offense look like? name the questions around brady that doesn’t apply to dorsey. i’ll be here.

 

[Kamelion4291]

So Brady was in constant communication with the QB during the games and no one else? Where's the QB coach? Sounds like a bunch of semantics

The QB coach is the one working with him the rest of the week to fix mechanics and read defenses so that Joe Brady can talk to him for 3 hours on Saturday to get input on what the defense is running.

Apparently you don't know. Got my answer.

 

[ThomasM]

Then we're on the same page. I don't mind rolling the dice, but it's definitely a risk.

If you're going to roll the dice, you do it on a guy with an NFL resume like Dorsey's.

We'll see what happens.

 

[Gables Cane]

If we are still interviewing position coaches does that not indicate we have missed out on options?

Not necessarily. Assuming the report that we are indeed actually interviewing candidates is true, it means we are not done-done (not casting shade just stating reality).

 

[WhatTheHell]

Those opposed to Dorsey have made some very compelling arguments in here.

 

[Kamelion4291]

no actually i can’t imagine why there would be more questions around brady. we know what a brady offense looks like. what does a dorsey offense look like? name the questions around brady that doesn’t apply to dorsey. i’ll be here.

You know what a Brady passing offense might look like on third down and in the red zone from a college standpoint. That's it. You also saw the full Brady offense in Carolina that must have gotten you all hot and bothered to have your questions answered, I suppose.

You guys think calling plays is like the main thing to help an offense be successful and it's pretty hilarious. I rUn FiVe WiDe LoOk aT tHe PoInTs!

You realize you'd have likely the best QB developer in all of college football sitting on your staff? And that the only way he's on your staff is because he played here and no other team would likely be able to land him? And what makes you hesitant is Xs and Os for 3 hours on Saturdays? Really?

Man, that's unbelievably short-sighted.

 

[filmcane]

Those opposed to Dorsey have made some very compelling arguments in here.

True, but you can make a compelling case against Briles and Brady as well. Everyone has feet of clay and can be criticized.

I think if we get any of the following calling O plays, we'll be fine: Dorsey, Briles, Brady or Ponce. Do not want Coley at OC regardless.

Also, unpopular opinion: It wouldn't be the best thing in the world if Chud slid into playcalling, but also not the worst. The only guy I would feel uneasy about at OC/playcalling would be Coley. Everyone else I've mentioned, should find success here as playycaller.

 

[ZeroBeachCane3]

Update on DC from Gaby:

“ There is still little clarity on who Mario Cristobal will tap to run Miami's defense nearly four weeks since the Hurricanes hired the head coach.

Some of the names floated around have been Georgia co-defensive coordinator Glenn Schumann and Auburn defensive coordinator Derek Mason.

Sources told InsideTheU that a couple of other names to monitor as potential defensive play-callers include Seattle Seahawks associate head coach and defensive line coach Clint Hurtt and Houston defensive coordinator Doug Belk.

Hurtt is a Miami alum with direct ties to Cristobal. While playing at UM, Cristobal was a graduate assistant. Hurtt was then a graduate assistant at Miami during Mario Cristobal's first year at Miami in 2004 when he was coaching tight ends. In 2006, Hurtt was named Miami's defensive line coach, which was Cristobal's last year as Miami's offensive line coach before taking the head coaching job at FIU.

Hurtt also had a stint at Louisville between 2010-13 where he served as a defensive line coach, associate head coach, and recruiting coordinator. In his final year with the Cardinals, the team led the nation in sacks, total defense, rushing defense, third down defense, and second in scoring defense.

Hurtt then went on to spend three years with the Chicago Bears where he coached the defensive line and then outside linebackers before making the move over to Seattle, where he has been since March 2017.

With the Seahawks, Hurtt has coached up talent such as Jarran Reed, who had a career-high 10.5 sacks in 2018, All-Pro defensive end Frank Clark, Michael Bennett, and Jadeveon Clowney.

A defensive line coach being hired as a defensive coordinator isn't such a rarity. Oregon recently hired Jacksonville Jaguars defensive line coach Tosh Lupoi. Rod Marinellis is another defensive line coach who has been a defensive coordinator. Buddy Ryan, Rex Ryan, Wade Phillips, Dan Quinn, Patrick Graham, and Joe Cullen are more examples of defensive line coaches making the jump.

Belk is another intriguing option and someone else off the Nick Saban coaching tree. From 2014-16, Belk was a graduate assistant coaching cornerbacks under Saban, who personally handles the position for the Crimson Tide.

After spending a couple of years at West Virginia, Belk was poached by Houston to become the associate head coach, co-defensive coordinator and safties coach. In 2021, he was named the full-time defensive coordinator and led a Cougars unit that led the nation in third down defense, allowing conversions juts 25.7 percent of the time.

Houston's defense was also top ten nationally in total defense, sacks, turnovers gained, first down defense and rushing defense. Belk's unit was also top 15 in redzone defense and top 20 in passing yards allowed and scoring defense.

Cristobal and Belk worked together in Tuscaloosa for three years.”

He also went on to add that the source says that Schumann is unlikely.

 

[JZCane0825]

From Gaby -

There is still little clarity on who Mario Cristobal will tap to run Miami's defense nearly four weeks since the Hurricanes hired the head coach.

Some of the names floated around have been Georgia co-defensive coordinator Glenn Schumann and Auburn defensive coordinator Derek Mason.

Sources told InsideTheU that a couple of other names to monitor as potential defensive play-callers include Seattle Seahawks associate head coach and defensive line coach Clint Hurtt and Houston defensive coordinator Doug Belk.

LOL at this being an 'update'. These were the names that were tossed out weeks ago.