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rsa coral gables said:
the half back option throw with a glove on thrown by a player who hasn't thrown a pass in 10 years in a snow blizzard on first and ten with the game on the line with an above average quarterback on the team TELLS ME HIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS AS A PLAY CALLER SUCKS. and it is not just THAT ONE INVALIDATING PLAY. he was a terrible OC.
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For the record he called two halfback tosses in the snow that game
 
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88 said:
Coley has been nowhere but elite programs as a position coach for over a decade now. Always a top recruiter. Anyone who doesn't want him as a position coach needs to get real.
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I don't want him as a play calling OC, ever. Make him the highest paid QB coach in the country and I'm fine with that. Let him call plays then get yourself ready for a disastrous waste of talent.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
It's amazing that we have people that wouldn't want one of the best QB coaches on planet Earth here calling plays because we don't know what kind of drag routes he might call.

Pure insanity.
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Are you referring to Dorsey? It's insane to want a proven OC rather than a complete unknown? You know who else was a great QB coach, Enos.

It's insane that you think it's insane that people want someone with a proven track record. Many, and I mean many, extremely good position coaches make the jump to coordinator and suck (e.g. Coley). Dorsey could easily suck at installing a scheme, gameplanning, and calling plays. He could be great.

But the bottom line is he's a complete unknown because he's never done it before. I personally would be okay with a Dorsey hire, but given that new coordinators are statistically more likely to fail than to succeed, I'd much prefer someone who has a track record of success and has done it before.
 
AbsoluteUnit said:
Not disputing what you're saying and agree completely with that approach. But for what it's worth, and I know it doesn't mean much given the source, but Ferman stated that *IF* Coley accepts a position here, he expects us to have 6 offensive coaches and 4 defensive coaches. Now, I'm not sure how prevalent that is across the CFB landscape but assumed, in that scenario, the offensive staff looks like:
  1. OC (TBD)
  2. Co-OC/WR (BMaC)
  3. OL/RGC (Mirabal)
  4. TE (Field)
  5. QB/AHC (Coley)
  6. RB (TBD)
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The way to accomplish 5 coaches with Brady as OC is there are 2 WR's coach's which also coaches TE's because that is how they pulled it off at LSU. Field is not official yet for an on the field role.
  1. OC/WR BRADY
  2. Co-OC/WR McClendon
  3. OL/AHC/RGC Mirabal
  4. QB/PGC Coley
  5. RB Smith or whoever
 
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so is it fair to say that we don't have the OC hired? if its Baby Briles, their season ended. if its coley, same thing.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
It's amazing that we have people that wouldn't want one of the best QB coaches on planet Earth here calling plays because we don't know what kind of drag routes he might call.

Pure insanity.
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there is 31 other qb coaches in the nfl. why aren’t you mentioning them as a homerun hire?
 
jlobob said:
Cribby, who is the OC?
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@RVACane

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RedPill Stepdad said:
there is 31 other qb coaches in the nfl. why aren’t you mentioning them as a homerun hire?
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None of them made cam play at mvp level would be my guess. Cam hasn’t done crap since. That is a memory that sticks . Coaching mahomoes or Brady doesn’t up your stock probably takes away from it. So there are probably another 10 coaches you can mention because Giants dolphins and Jags QB coaches are automatically eliminated lol.
 
Yoyo82 said:
I'd be happy with Briles or Dorsey, but think I'd prefer Dorsey.

He has so much experience with QBs AND offenses by now. With his work ethic and killer instinct, I would just expect him to out scheme and outwork anybody we come against..plus he's got so many resources he can lean on from his 13+ years in the NFL. He'd bring things to college nobody has seen/experienced. Being somebody Mario is comfortable with and can trust plus the leader of our greatest era in Canes history are just added bonuses.

There's no guarantee he'd be elite.. But he's excelled at everything he's done. He's always overachieved. I'm not sure why we'd expect anything less if he was our OC/QB coach.
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I'll try to help out before you get the obvious "but what is his OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY?!?!?!" questions.

In some ways, it can be a positive when a coach arrives without a "my-way-or-the-highway" offensive philosophy, because it can allow the coach to build around the talent that is already on the roster.

I'm old enough to remember when Steve Walsh decided to enter the Supplemental Draft rather than spend his final year piloting Erickson's one-back spread offense. And, sure, we still won the 1989 championship under the dual efforts of Craig Erickson and Gino Torretta. But I would have liked to have seen Steve make another run for the Heisman and avenge that 1988 Notre Dame robbery.

Right now, we have TVD, Garcia, and Jacurri Brown is on the way. I do not think that those three guys have identical skillsets and are all equally ideal for running one particular system. ****, we saw that a productive hard-working D'Eriq King couldn't just be plugged into Lashlee's system seamlessly and be expected to do everything he did under a prior OC.

People have raised a very good point about Dorsey developing both Cam Newton AND Josh Allen, guys with different styles and skills. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the posters who are screaming about Miami being "multiple" on defense might also consider, JUST CONSIDER, that we could try being a bit multiple on offense as well. I'm tired of the "knows-a-little-but-just-enough-to-quote-vocabulary-and-act-arrogant" porsters pontificating about how this offensive philosophy or that offensive philosophy is the best, or how the Oklahoma QB is a "better fit" than the incumbent Miami QB.

Just win. Let the running backs run, let the quarterbacks throw, let the receivers catch.

And then, after we score, when Mario turns to the OC to ask what play he just called, he can quote the legendary (and annoying) Steve Spurrier and say "Touchdown!"
 
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CanesNation26 said:
Are you referring to Dorsey? It's insane to want a proven OC rather than a complete unknown? You know who else was a great QB coach, Enos.

It's insane that you think it's insane that people want someone with a proven track record. Many, and I mean many, extremely good position coaches make the jump to coordinator and suck (e.g. Coley). Dorsey could easily suck at installing a scheme, gameplanning, and calling plays. He could be great.

But the bottom line is he's a complete unknown because he's never done it before. I personally would be okay with a Dorsey hire, but given that new coordinators are statistically more likely to fail than to succeed, I'd much prefer someone who has a track record of success and has done it before.
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I want someone proven. However, when you have a guy with Dorsey's resume, and his next position could very well be as an NFL OC, you take a chance. I'd understand if he was some guy still working in college and this is his first chance to call plays. That, I don't want. A guy like Dorsey, who is doing well in the NFL, and has been in the NFL for **** near two decades as a player and coach, it's just different.

I think Dorsey is worth a roll of the dice. He could potentially be a great hire. Could he be a bust? Yes. It's possible. However, every great coordinator had to start somewhere, and most of them didn't have half of Dorsey's resume before becoming one.

I'm not saying Dorsey is my first choice, but I am saying I'd be alright with the choice. ****, he might just have the highest upside of them all.
 
CanesNation26 said:
JMO, but the fact that Briles hasn't been announced yet likely means he's not it. Schumman makes some sense cause he's still coaching.

Idk, but this whole thing is crazy to me. We're probably the only program in the country that hasn't announced one position coach hire. Weird stuff.
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Seems pretty clear at this point that Mario wants to announce the entire staff at the same time. Briles’ season being over is not indicative one way or the other.
 
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TheU21 said:
I think it's Todd Monkey for DC and Georgia's offensive coordinator for Miami's OC. That's my guess and maybe why Michigan's defense is playing unlike themselves tonight.
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The Maude’s think this is a great time to unban our favorite Arkansas troll @TheU21 after multiple attempts to get on the board. @jlobob being the latest attempt.
 
RedPill Stepdad said:
there is 31 other qb coaches in the nfl. why aren’t you mentioning them as a homerun hire?
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What is the team record of those other 31 QB coaches? What are the QB stats of those other 31 QB coaches? What is the offensive production of those other 31 QB coaches?

Yeah, there aren't 32 "homerun hires" in the NFL QB coaching ranks...
 
Gaby says he’ll have an update on the DC soon..

Here’s a preview: Mario is targeting a P5 DC, he may or may not take the job. I can see it going either way. I don’t know who it is yet though, I’ll do some digging.
 
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