Sean Spence weighs in on the Defense...interesting read

[LuCane]

Dear God are you clowns really gonna act like you understand football more than Sean spence?

It comes down to toughness, tackling , playing physical. Which coach is at fault there? Hint, his name rhymes with swasey

Are you going to act like you understand football more than Eric Winston or Duane Starks? What makes Sean Spence's opinion more valuable?

Because he actually played for the guy and actually knows what their scheme/principles/philosophy is based around. He actually understands what Golden/D are trying to accomplish.

That one year and personal connection also potentially biases his opinion, no?

 

[LuCane]

whats Marylands record?

How'd they look against the same offense who smoked us the week before? How'd that offense look the week before they played us?

howd they look when wake smoked them 34-10?

How did Maryland look against Wake?

307 total yards allowed, 47 rushing yards. Their offense is terrible and made 3 TOs.

How'd the Miami Hurricanes look against Wake?

361 total yards allowed, 59 rushing yards. Our offense didn't turn the ball over against Wake.

So you're really gonna go the blame the offense route?? man thats a whole other story for another day..round and round we go

What in the ****? Blame the offense on what? You asked how Maryland did in an effort to show they got smoked by Wake. I showed they actually performed better than we did. You failed. We're not going around.

 

[theibisrules]

http://www.firemarkdonofrio.com/

^^^^my sentiments exactly

 

[theibisrules]

•9 rushing TD's allowed in the past two games, four by Duke QB Brandon Connette - the second week in a row one player has scored four rushing TD's.
•​43.6 average number of points UM has allowed during its current 3 game losing streak.

•1976 Year of UM's last loss to Duke, which was the first meeting between the programs.

Their words...not mines!

 

[caneaddict]

agree to disagree, Im done, im giving this staff till the year when Duke and Tracy are seniors. If we suck on defense then...dont see it happenin if the next 2 recruiting classes are what they't=re looking like they'll be

 

[Mico Jones]

I'll listen to Spence's opinion although I do not agree. I think he is just being kind to D' Nofrio. Spence was a baller so he commands a certain level of respect and audience.

But who the Fvck is Jordan Futch to talk? Dude didn't do jack shizz here.

 

[D.L.I.N.K.D.A.GR8]

I didnt read everybody comments prior to mine... But i got the feeling **** Lebeau's system is giving him a better sense of the defense we're trying to run now since he has a lot of time to go over x's and O's because im pretty sure we weren't running this Defense his final year here. Good read tho Bicho.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Dear God are you clowns really gonna act like you understand football more than Sean spence?

It comes down to toughness, tackling , playing physical. Which coach is at fault there? Hint, his name rhymes with swasey

Are you going to act like you understand football more than Eric Winston or Duane Starks? What makes Sean Spence's opinion more valuable?

Because he actually played for the guy and actually knows what their scheme/principles/philosophy is based around. He actually understands what Golden/D are trying to accomplish.

That one year and personal connection also potentially biases his opinion, no?

It could.

 

[Bicho]

I'll listen to Spence's opinion although I do not agree. I think he is just being kind to D' Nofrio. Spence was a baller so he commands a certain level of respect and audience.

But who the Fvck is Jordan Futch to talk? Dude didn't do jack shizz here.

Spence also throws his former teammates under the bus. it's not like he is pulling punches or has any bias in this whole disaster.

 

[QuadCityCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

 

[Chrisarg72]

what if its a combination of both players and coaching?

That's too sensible for this board unfortunately. Say its both and they think you're in love with D'o

 

[Bicho]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

you have the 30 for 30 watchers stumped, congrats!

 

[LuCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

As just ONE example, if Nikita Whitlock were asked to play on our DLine, he'd get blocked into the goal post. If you can't acknowledge that, I don't know what to say.

Going with the extreme that everything you said is true and applies to what we're doing, what does selecting individual players from separate teams have to do with saying that out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central? You understand you are saying Luther Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chick would all not find any spot on any of those teams, correct?

 

[LuCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

you have the 30 for 30 watchers stumped, congrats!

The funny thing is you actually believe that. Very entertaining.

 

[QuadCityCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

As just ONE example, if Nikita Whitlock were asked to play on our DLine, he'd get blocked into the goal post. If you can't acknowledge that, I don't know what to say.

Going with the extreme that everything you said is true and applies to what we're doing, what does selecting individual players from separate teams have to do with saying that out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central? You understand you are saying Luther Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chick would all not find any spot on any of those teams, correct?

They might play on those teams but they would be average there just like they are here. Fact is I listed better players from 4 teams you asked for. Those guys would make plays in any system because they are GOOD football players. Just like Wilkerson at Temple and Brooks at Virginia made plays in the same defense.

Any one of the players I listed would make our Defense much better. Ifedi can rush the passer, Whitfield can rush the passer and tackle, Nikita Whitlock can rush the passer, and Jeremy Cash has more tackles then all 4 safeties on our team added together.

 

[LuCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

As just ONE example, if Nikita Whitlock were asked to play on our DLine, he'd get blocked into the goal post. If you can't acknowledge that, I don't know what to say.

Going with the extreme that everything you said is true and applies to what we're doing, what does selecting individual players from separate teams have to do with saying that out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central? You understand you are saying Luther Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chick would all not find any spot on any of those teams, correct?

They might play on those teams but they would be average there just like they are here. Fact is I listed better players from 4 teams you asked for. Those guys would make plays in any system because they are GOOD football players. Just like Wilkerson at Temple and Brooks at Virginia made plays in the same defense.

Any one of the players I listed would make our Defense much better. Ifedi can rush the passer, Whitfield can rush the passer and tackle, Nikita Whitlock can rush the passer, and Jeremy Cash has more tackles then all 4 safeties on our team added together.

Fact is, you talked about Front 7 and then listed a **** Safety (Cash). You have any clue how to stay on topic?

Bottom line: you listed players who couldn't even play here. It's hilarious that you listed Nikita Whitlock. Asked to play in our system, he'd get destroyed. Again, if you don't understand why, then that says everything. What if Luther Robinson or Pierre played in Nikita's system? Would they look better?

This should be interesting.

 

[WhatTheHell]

It's easy to point out those players on other teams now - they're getting superior coaching and are being developed. It's an indictment on our staff that these garbage *** kids are making plays in other defenses.

Go back to these kids coming out of high school, before Dorito got his grubby paws on them and coached them straight into the ground.


Martin Ifedi only other offer was New Mexico St.

Marcus Whitfeld was the 90th best player at his position, and was down to Maryland and WVU.

Nikita Whitlock held one other offer - SMU. He was a low 2 star.

Jeremy Cash was a 3 star and 25th ranked guy at his position.


Yet we're allowing 500 yards to offenses ranked in the 100s with these kids:

Anthony Chikillo - 3rd rated DE, 4 star, UF, Bama, FSU, Auburn, Clemson, Michigan, ND, South Carolina offers.
Curtis Porter - Offers from Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Michigan
Denzel Perryman - Offers from Auburn, UF, FSU, South Carolina
Tracy Howard - 5 star, #1 at his position. Kid could have named his school
Deon Bush - 4th best safety in the nation, 4 star, also could have named his school. BAMA was all over him
Tyriq McCord - 7th best at his position, 4 star, Goergia, South Carolina, ND, USC, UF, FSU all on his ****
Raphael Kirby - 5th best at his position, 4 star, Offer list looked like a ******* medieval scroll, Could have played anywhere
Luther Robinson - 4 star and 18th at his position in the country.


So, we can't get any of these kids to make plays, yet these nobodies are carrying defenses. And that's not coaching? You don't think Memphis, Maryland, Wake, and Duke would switch players with us on every signing day? You're only proving that even with superior incoming talent, the staff can't get these kids to stop offenses ranked in the 100s from destroying them.

When do we have enough talent to not get annihilated by awful offenses? Does this staff need the #1 ranked player at every position? Will that be enough?

 

[QuadCityCane]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

As just ONE example, if Nikita Whitlock were asked to play on our DLine, he'd get blocked into the goal post. If you can't acknowledge that, I don't know what to say.

Going with the extreme that everything you said is true and applies to what we're doing, what does selecting individual players from separate teams have to do with saying that out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central? You understand you are saying Luther Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chick would all not find any spot on any of those teams, correct?

They might play on those teams but they would be average there just like they are here. Fact is I listed better players from 4 teams you asked for. Those guys would make plays in any system because they are GOOD football players. Just like Wilkerson at Temple and Brooks at Virginia made plays in the same defense.

Any one of the players I listed would make our Defense much better. Ifedi can rush the passer, Whitfield can rush the passer and tackle, Nikita Whitlock can rush the passer, and Jeremy Cash has more tackles then all 4 safeties on our team added together.

Fact is, you talked about Front 7 and then listed a **** Safety (Cash). You have any clue how to stay on topic?

Bottom line: you listed players who couldn't even play here. It's hilarious that you listed Nikita Whitlock. Asked to play in our system, he'd get destroyed. Again, if you don't understand why, then that says everything. What if Luther Robinson or Pierre played in Nikita's system? Would they look better?

This should be interesting.

You have all this hostility lately. Are you just angry because I provided what you ask for. The Wake, Duke, Maryland and even Memphis has a better player than we do. But here we go again. Luther Robinson and Olsen Pierre were not good last year when we played mostly 4-3 and are not good this year in a 3-4. So why would I think they would be any better than average on any other team or scheme.

At least Nikita Whitlock has made plays. Bottom line is the NFL will be drafting all 4 of the guys I mentioned. While Robinson and Pierre might make practice squads.

 

[LuCane]

It's a cycle. When you bring that up, you'll be told our talent is too young. Then you mention Maryland who played with young guys and 2nd stringers. Then they turn the argument into something else.

I'm not sure what's the big deal here. Is Al Golden's family on this board? We can't admit he has problems right now? Everyone wants Miami to win. Is there a talent issue? Sure. Is there evidence that our talent is underperforming? I think so. Is it worrisome that other teams seem to be squeezing more out of there talent than we are? That's my issue.

 

[Bicho]

We've entered into a new realm:

Apparently, people in this thread are claiming that, out of our front 7, only Perryman would play at places like Maryland, Wake, Duke, Troy, Memphis and North Carolina Central.

I officially concede. You guys have convinced me. Thank you.

Well off the top of my head, Memphis DE Martin Ifedi, Marylands Marcus Whitfield, Wake's Nikita Whitlock and Duke's Jeremy Cash are better than any player starting on Defense. Difference makers and guys you can build the rest of your defense around. We dont have 1 defensive player to build a defense around.

you have the 30 for 30 watchers stumped, congrats!

The funny thing is you actually believe that. Very entertaining.

who in the front 7 will be on an NFL roster 3 years from now.

Answer is a few maybe on the practice squad besides 52.

reality is a *****.