Sean Spence weighs in on the Defense...interesting read

Why does the media continue to interview Futch? He wasn't productive here... A myth was built up regarding him due to a lone crack back against GT in 09... I'm not trying to be funny the kid was bad under every DC he played for... Whereas Spence was good under every DC he played for... I mean Futch was talking pretty tough when Shannon was fired stating favoritism was a reason why a lot of guys didn't play hard yet he was still bad under Golden... He can't say we don't have the talent because in all honesty we probably have 4 linebackers better than him right now... I can say that Perryman, Armbuster and Cornelious are better than him... Heck Kelvin Cain and Jimmy Gaines are too both saw the field over him as true freshman in 2010... Kelvin Cain performance against Duke that year was better than anything Futch ever done... That guy's opinion is pointless... I don't want to hear an unproductive player criticize guys who have been more productive than he was...
 
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You openly state that "our coaches need to do a better job with what they have." From where do you draw that conclusion?

From the fact that it's true of pretty much every coach (or teacher, or business executive, or...).

So then just as a general statement. Not because you see something wrong with how we're currently using our talent or what we're getting out of them. Got it.
 
“It’s a great system to be in. He runs a lot of zone, switches it up and also runs a lot of man, and has a lot of nice blitz packages. It’s similar to a lot of the stuff run up here with the Steelers...

This is the first time I heard coach D's defense being compared to another defense. The Steelers defense under **** Lebeau is a monster, very complex to learn and has a ton of exotic blitzes. If Spence is correct, then this may explain why our defense, as Eric Winston would say, looks "vanilla" and "plain". However, it still falls on coach D to adjust his scheme to fit his personnel.
 
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I hate seeing the Cane family divided. Some people on the board know more about football than others. However, sometimes that blinds you to bigger picture. I do no know the X and O things, so I have no idea if it is coaches or players on an individual play or series. But, people regardless of what they do, respond to certain things. If you like one boss better than another, who's work gets to the top of the pile? If you are scared of one boss more than another, who's work gets to the top of the pile? Esprit de corps matters, it matters a lot. It sure looks like the team, especially the defense has quit. Did they quit on THE U, each other, or the staff? That is not Xs and Os. They stood by THE U through a lot. HAve they quit on each other or the staff would seem to be the question. I would think the staff is the most likely answer. That is what concerns me the most. If Al has lost the confidence of the team, we are screwed. If it is Mark, we have a chance. Former players do not matter in this. If this team has lost conifidence in Mark and Al does nothing, it is worse than Randy playing favorites among the players because this is Al's BFF.
 
It's easy to point out those players on other teams now - they're getting superior coaching and are being developed. It's an indictment on our staff that these garbage *** kids are making plays in other defenses.

Go back to these kids coming out of high school, before Dorito got his grubby paws on them and coached them straight into the ground.


Martin Ifedi only other offer was New Mexico St.

Marcus Whitfeld was the 90th best player at his position, and was down to Maryland and WVU.

Nikita Whitlock held one other offer - SMU. He was a low 2 star.

Jeremy Cash was a 3 star and 25th ranked guy at his position.


Yet we're allowing 500 yards to offenses ranked in the 100s with these kids:

Anthony Chikillo - 3rd rated DE, 4 star, UF, Bama, FSU, Auburn, Clemson, Michigan, ND, South Carolina offers.
Curtis Porter - Offers from Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Michigan
Denzel Perryman - Offers from Auburn, UF, FSU, South Carolina
Tracy Howard - 5 star, #1 at his position. Kid could have named his school
Deon Bush - 4th best safety in the nation, 4 star, also could have named his school. BAMA was all over him
Tyriq McCord - 7th best at his position, 4 star, Goergia, South Carolina, ND, USC, UF, FSU all on his ****
Raphael Kirby - 5th best at his position, 4 star, Offer list looked like a ****ing medieval scroll, Could have played anywhere
Luther Robinson - 4 star and 18th at his position in the country.


So, we can't get any of these kids to make plays, yet these nobodies are carrying defenses. And that's not coaching? You don't think Memphis, Maryland, Wake, and Duke would switch players with us on every signing day? You're only proving that even with superior incoming talent, the staff can't get these kids to stop offenses ranked in the 100s from destroying them.

When do we have enough talent to not get annihilated by awful offenses? Does this staff need the #1 ranked player at every position? Will that be enough?

I have already made this point 100 times, its talent and coaching.

Jimmy Johnson's 29-25-3 at Oklahoma St goes to Miami gets players like Jerome Brown, Michael Irvin, etc.. Wins a title. Goes to Cowboys, goes 1-15, gets Aikman, Smith, Irvin, Maryland etc wins 2 super bowls, goes to Miami never does better than 10-6. Is he a good coach or not? He didnt win at Oklahoma St. but he won at Miami. He didnt win with the Dolphins but he won with Dallas.
Bill Belichick was 36-44 with the Browns, he wins 3 Super Bowls with the Patriots with guys like Brady, Bruschi, Wilfork etc.
Pete Carroll fired by the Jets and Patriots goes to USC wins a title with players like Bush, Palmer, Palamalu etc..Goes to Seattle and makes 200 rosters moves in one season to shape his team. Goes 11-5.
Nick Saban at Michigan St. From 1995 to 1997, Michigan State finished 6–5–1, 6–6, 7–5, 6-6, then 9-2(finally has his recruits). In comparison, MSU had finished 5–6, 6–6 and 5–6 in 1992–1994. Goes to LSU goes 8-4, 10-3, 8-5, 11-1(title), then 9-3 again. Goes to Dolphins and goes 15-17. Then Bama and 3 titles.

These are some of the best coaches of all time and still needed GREAT players to win Championships.
For the love of God you did not just compare Golden to Jimmy Johnson, Saban, and Belicheck.... LMAO.
 
Spence speaking out makes it even more evident that talent isnt the issue at all

the defense he played under Dorito was 45th w/ 5 NFL players on that side of the ball....

LOL how many NFL players do you need to get inside the top 20 in total defense?? I'm not even talking top 10 yet. smh ****

Dorito and Golden are the Worst coaches of all time
 
The bottom line is, It falls on both coaches and players. The some of the players suck and maybe Spence was able to make better reads than these current guys to make up for Coach D's terrible play calling. Coach D fails to adjust his scheme to account for his players lack of skill. Playing 7 yards off the ball makes up for their lack speed in the vertical game but leaves open the underneath game for just as big of gains. So why not try something different, if you are going to give up 50 yards either way? Logan Thomas isn't known for his deep ball accuracy, why not take away the underneath stuff until he proves he can beat us over the top. Instead we enter the game with a respect for these players that they haven't earned.

Its hard for me to blame the players more than the coaches because D doesn't even adjust to the other team. Duke is running it down our throats. if we put 8 in the box and they still run on us then I say "ok, the players aren't that good, we couldn't stop the run with 8 in the box". But when they have rushed for 200 yards and have clearly shown that will run non-stop for chunk yardage until we adjust. And we don't adjust it's hard to blame the players. The sad part is that Coach Cutcliffe didn't even have to scratch the service of his gameplan. He was waiting for us to adjust and we never did. It's like a chess match. Dorito is scared to move his queen onto the board for fear of loosing her. While slowly all of his other pieces are sacked. I don't think D is a bad DC during the week. But on gameday he is a horrid play caller. Who coaches skurred.
 
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Spence speaking out makes it even more evident that talent isnt the issue at all

the defense he played under Dorito was 45th w/ 5 NFL players on that side of the ball....

LOL how many NFL players do you need to get inside the top 20 in total defense?? I'm not even talking top 10 yet. smh ****

Dorito and Golden are the Worst coaches of all time

5 NFL players...come on man, that article was being kind. Spence was the only game changing player on that squad.

McGee seriously where is he now? and he was a bum that year and took a full 4 years to develop into a serviceable corner.
I don't even think forston saw the field in a regular season.
Oliver Vernon is the only player making strides and it took him 3 years to develop to a serviceable DE for the dolphins. And he also was suspended that year because of the Nevin Shaprio crap.
Ray Ray was suspended and barely played that year, maybe in 2 games before he was kicked off the team for good. And even when he played he was hardly a game changing player.

It's obvious that you hate the staff, but don't let it turn you into a troll.
 
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We have the talent to be substantially better than we are. This year disproved any of the line of thinking that we dont have the horses. Nobody has the horses to run the system we run. That **** could almost work at Temple because the competition sucked and they didnt play teams with the speed to break it down. Even the worst ACC teams have enough speed at WR to drag under a wide open zone with no pass rush. Its doomed to fail and we will go down with it.

I personally trust that changes are going to be made. It was reasonable enough for Al to trust his buddy and his players and think with a year of U Tough and only losing 1 starter, we would be in a better place. Experiment is a massive failure and he has to know it. Can't bail on a coach midseason, so we have to play out the year. Changes aren't made, then I'm taking the year off as a fan. I'll pay more attention to my plants or my career or some stupid BS like that.
 
It's easy to point out those players on other teams now - they're getting superior coaching and are being developed. It's an indictment on our staff that these garbage *** kids are making plays in other defenses.

Go back to these kids coming out of high school, before Dorito got his grubby paws on them and coached them straight into the ground.


Martin Ifedi only other offer was New Mexico St.

Marcus Whitfeld was the 90th best player at his position, and was down to Maryland and WVU.

Nikita Whitlock held one other offer - SMU. He was a low 2 star.

Jeremy Cash was a 3 star and 25th ranked guy at his position.


Yet we're allowing 500 yards to offenses ranked in the 100s with these kids:

Anthony Chikillo - 3rd rated DE, 4 star, UF, Bama, FSU, Auburn, Clemson, Michigan, ND, South Carolina offers.
Curtis Porter - Offers from Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Michigan
Denzel Perryman - Offers from Auburn, UF, FSU, South Carolina
Tracy Howard - 5 star, #1 at his position. Kid could have named his school
Deon Bush - 4th best safety in the nation, 4 star, also could have named his school. BAMA was all over him
Tyriq McCord - 7th best at his position, 4 star, Goergia, South Carolina, ND, USC, UF, FSU all on his ****
Raphael Kirby - 5th best at his position, 4 star, Offer list looked like a ****ing medieval scroll, Could have played anywhere
Luther Robinson - 4 star and 18th at his position in the country.


So, we can't get any of these kids to make plays, yet these nobodies are carrying defenses. And that's not coaching? You don't think Memphis, Maryland, Wake, and Duke would switch players with us on every signing day? You're only proving that even with superior incoming talent, the staff can't get these kids to stop offenses ranked in the 100s from destroying them.

When do we have enough talent to not get annihilated by awful offenses? Does this staff need the #1 ranked player at every position? Will that be enough?

I have already made this point 100 times, its talent and coaching.

Jimmy Johnson's 29-25-3 at Oklahoma St goes to Miami gets players like Jerome Brown, Michael Irvin, etc.. Wins a title. Goes to Cowboys, goes 1-15, gets Aikman, Smith, Irvin, Maryland etc wins 2 super bowls, goes to Miami never does better than 10-6. Is he a good coach or not? He didnt win at Oklahoma St. but he won at Miami. He didnt win with the Dolphins but he won with Dallas.
Bill Belichick was 36-44 with the Browns, he wins 3 Super Bowls with the Patriots with guys like Brady, Bruschi, Wilfork etc.
Pete Carroll fired by the Jets and Patriots goes to USC wins a title with players like Bush, Palmer, Palamalu etc..Goes to Seattle and makes 200 rosters moves in one season to shape his team. Goes 11-5.
Nick Saban at Michigan St. From 1995 to 1997, Michigan State finished 6–5–1, 6–6, 7–5, 6-6, then 9-2(finally has his recruits). In comparison, MSU had finished 5–6, 6–6 and 5–6 in 1992–1994. Goes to LSU goes 8-4, 10-3, 8-5, 11-1(title), then 9-3 again. Goes to Dolphins and goes 15-17. Then Bama and 3 titles.

These are some of the best coaches of all time and still needed GREAT players to win Championships.
For the love of God you did not just compare Golden to Jimmy Johnson, Saban, and Belicheck.... LMAO.

Can you read? I didnt compare him to anyone. I used examples of 4 great coaches that had poor records until they got great players. Same thing with Corch Jimbo the greatest 4 loss National Champion Coach of all time and "Champs to Chumps" Davis.
Geezus man Coker lost 3 games in 3 years. Now he is coaching some startup in Texas.

Whether or not we fire Golden in the future at least I know he can recruit. So the cupboard wont be bare for the next guy.
 
Why does the media continue to interview Futch?

Not that long ago, Futch was working some gig with UM. He might have been an intern, but he was working at Joe Robbie either last year or the year before during UM games. I don't know what he's doing now, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's still either working with UM or looking to work with UM. Wouldn't surprise me at all if UM set it up for Futch to attempt to feed into the continuation of the Corch Al cult by talking to the media.
 
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Why does the media continue to interview Futch?

Not that long ago, Futch was working some gig with UM. He might have been an intern, but he was working at Joe Robbie either last year or the year before during UM games. I don't know what he's doing now, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's still either working with UM or looking to work with UM. Wouldn't surprise me at all if UM set it up for Futch to attempt to feed into the continuation of the Corch Al cult by talking to the media.

Haha I wouldn't say all of that... But if he was interning I can believe it if he was trying to remain on good terms with the current staff for an eventual gig... The article stated that he is preparing to attend Police Academy... For some reason Golden liked Futch... He was pretty much given a starting gig upon Al's arrival... I believe he couldn't beat out Gaines and they tried him at olb but then Perryman outplayed him...
 
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