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Brooklyndee said:
Only thing im gonna point out brother is hes not saying malik is miles ahead in the race. Hes saying hes so far ahead mentally in knowing what hes supposed to do. But hes not telling you how far ahead he is in actually executing what he knows. Everyone is correct to a certain extent. But the easiest thing to ascertain is theres a whole bunch of football still ahead of us till this job is decided. My assumption at this point is it'll come down to nkosi & jarren ultimately. But if thats outright or splitting time is to be seen. Wouldnt be surprised if malik gets first crack at lsu but if he does **** get pulled in the first quarter. Lets just sit back & watch them learn.
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So is it your assessment that Cade is out of the running, or does it have more to do with him being out with the eye funk?
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Only thing im gonna point out brother is hes not saying malik is miles ahead in the race. Hes saying hes so far ahead mentally in knowing what hes supposed to do. But hes not telling you how far ahead he is in actually executing what he knows. Everyone is correct to a certain extent. But the easiest thing to ascertain is theres a whole bunch of football still ahead of us till this job is decided. My assumption at this point is it'll come down to nkosi & jarren ultimately. But if thats outright or splitting time is to be seen. Wouldnt be surprised if malik gets first crack at lsu but if he does **** get pulled in the first quarter. Lets just sit back & watch them learn.
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You know I don't care who wins as long as the level of QB play gets better and more consistent. I do like busting people's balls though.

Given what you've been able to get a look at, do you think Williams earns some first team reps before the Spring ends, or are they working him through the basics?
 
Loose Cannon said:
So is it your assessment that Cade is out of the running, or does it have more to do with him being out with the eye funk?
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Ive been of the opinion that cade isnt getting a fair shot at the job. Dont know if its cause weve decided hes not talented enough or not. In my opinion regardless hes behind the others in growth. He just doesnt flash at this point like youd wanna see. I saw cade today & he looked fine to me so im not sure what thats about. Didnt ask.
 
Loose Cannon said:
You know I don't care who wins as long as the level of QB play gets better and more consistent. I do like busting people's balls though.

Given what you've been able to get a look at, do you think Williams earns some first team reps before the Spring ends, or are they working him through the basics?
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He already gets some first team reps as well. Not as many as nkosi & malik but he gets reps. To me its gonna be real hard keeping him away from this job if he continues to learn the playbook & show growth. Way i see it all any of us should want is a healthy competition where these dudes start to seperate from each other. Cause at this point its still simply they all show alot of mediocrity blended in with moments of flashing. Probably the least of the crap moments has come from jarren but thats not enough to win a job. I wanna see one eliminate the mistakes from their game and shine. When one gets to that point we will be ready to show the college football nation what we got. For the people who think clemson is so far ahead of us well my only reply to that is like jeru the damaja said "your playin yourself" i dont think everyone realizes just how big this freshman class will be for us. These kids from top to bottom are ballers. The db class is gonna make a WORLD of difference for us. Its gonna allow us to finally show a lil versatility in our play calling. Im ecstatic with the direction were headed. Not much seperates us from the elite anymore. A qb needs to be the first step to that though.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Ive been of the opinion that cade isnt getting a fair shot at the job. Dont know if its cause weve decided hes not talented enough or not. In my opinion regardless hes behind the others in growth. He just doesnt flash at this point like youd wanna see. I saw cade today & he looked fine to me so im not sure what thats about. Didnt ask.
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Just a guess, conjunctivitis is extremely contagious during a certain stage. Cade may be waiting on an all clear from the Doc.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
He already gets some first team reps as well. Not as many as nkosi & malik but he gets reps. To me its gonna be real hard keeping him away from this job if he continues to learn the playbook & show growth. Way i see it all any of us should want is a healthy competition where these dudes start to seperate from each other. Cause at this point its still simply they all show alot of mediocrity blended in with moments of flashing. Probably the least of the crap moments has come from jarren but thats not enough to win a job. I wanna see one eliminate the mistakes from their game and shine. When one gets to that point we will be ready to show the college football nation what we got. For the people who think clemson is so far ahead of us well my only reply to that is like jeru the damaja said "your playin yourself" i dont think everyone realizes just how big this freshman class will be for us. These kids from top to bottom are ballers. The db class is gonna make a WORLD of difference for us. Its gonna allow us to finally show a lil versatility in our play calling. Im ecstatic with the direction were headed. Not much seperates us from the elite anymore. A qb needs to be the first step to that though.
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Encouraging news on Jarron. I also saw where Rick Jr. said Kosi is making progress with calling out his defensive keys, but that he still needs to get more confident with what he sees and call it out. I don't think people should be writing him off just yet, even though I'm guilty of busting the balls of those who have been trying to anoint him. It's hard to come in as a Freshman and earn a spot right away. College experience is the one thing you can't get in high school, and that can be a daunting hurdle to climb.

I'm torn between wanting them to scrap it out and push each other until September, and realizing that at some point the #1 guy needs to be taking 1st team reps exclusively while the others fight it out for QB2.
 
QuatroCane said:
What was once an interesting conversation about the QB prospects has turned into a creepy obsession, you need a break man.
You've lost all perspective and rational.
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Man I swear , dude basically typed that sht with tears coming down his face . State your opinion and keep it pushing . Dude ready to end it all cuz people not agreeing with him
 
jjacks93 said:
Man I swear , dude basically typed that sht with tears coming down his face . State your opinion and keep it pushing . Dude ready to end it all cuz people not agreeing with him
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Brooklyndee said:
Only thing im gonna point out brother is hes not saying malik is miles ahead in the race. Hes saying hes so far ahead mentally in knowing what hes supposed to do. But hes not telling you how far ahead he is in actually executing what he knows. Everyone is correct to a certain extent. But the easiest thing to ascertain is theres a whole bunch of football still ahead of us till this job is decided. My assumption at this point is it'll come down to nkosi & jarren ultimately. But if thats outright or splitting time is to be seen. Wouldnt be surprised if malik gets first crack at lsu but if he does **** get pulled in the first quarter. Lets just sit back & watch them learn.
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I agree dee. At this point, we have to take what CMR and JR are saying with a grain of salt and attempt to read between the lines. Neither CMR or JR want to discourage any of the QB's. Thus, the coach speak. My hope is that one of the QB's takes the bull by the horns in the next few months and clearly separates themselves from the others. At this point, I don't want to make a prediction and look like a fool later.
 
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423Hurricane said:
I agree dee. At this point, we have to take what CMR and JR are saying with a grain of salt and attempt to read between the lines. Neither CMR or JR want to discourage any of the QB's. Thus, the coach speak. My hope is that one of the QB's takes the bull by the horns in the next few months and clearly separates themselves from the others. At this point, I don't want to make a prediction and look like a fool later.
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Brother it's just a prediction... no fool in that. Don't let the miserable people dissuade you from being your own person.
 
calinative umstudent said:
Holy ******* **** man, how is this even debatable. I 10000000000% would start a ******* Freshman, who I have no idea how they will perform, over the worst ******* Qb in the ACC last year. Come on, How is this complicated. STARTING ROSIER IS LITERALLY THROWING THE SEASON AWAY. so yeah I'd rather take the ******* gamble, at leas then we have a shot.
This is like choosing a steaming pile of **** sandwich or the mystery box which could also very well be a **** sandwich, OR end up being like a ******* PB&J or something. This is extremely simple. Idgaf if you consider it rolling the dice. When the known commodity is absolute ****, that option should get taken off the ******* table. If you're at the casino, would you play at the table where you already know the result is a loss, or would you play at the table where you have a ******* chance? If you are going out at night do you just bag the first 2 you see, or do you shoot your shot with the ******* 8? Man some of yall only see our record, and act like its a reflection on Rosier. I've posted his *** stats on here like 10 times, and still got people acting like he wasn't the worst Qb in the ACC (or at least bottom 3) in just about every stat.
I'm gunna ******* look at all QB stats in the FBS and see how he compares, We'll see if he even finishes top 65/128 (there are 65 P5 schools and 128 FBS schools).
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Just pin this post and close the ******* thread
 
I don't care for Malik, but give me a RSr. who led the team to 10 wins and played in HUGE college games over a true freshman and another freshman who played sandlot football a year ago. Neither of whom who has taken a snap vs. an LSU D full of 4-5 star defenders or anything close. Now granted that defense somehow starts nothing but Fresh, R-Fresh and Soph. but it's still going to be nothing the HS kids have yet to see.


Let Malik win that game, the give the kids a chance later on if needed (and NOT the way he gave Allison his "chance")

Goal #1, get to 1-0 by beating LSU
 
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jjacks93 said:
Man I swear , dude basically typed that sht with tears coming down his face . State your opinion and keep it pushing . Dude ready to end it all cuz people not agreeing with him
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Nah bro when you have people who probably didn't watch the whole season or just have the football iq of a shovel and candy necklace go "derp derp 10-3" it gives me eye cancer
 
PokemonFisherman said:
I'm losing brain cells from you and loose gootch over here man
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Man if you had two brain cells it'd be a family reunion.

Malik Rosier's 3605 yards is the most for a Hurricane QB since Bernie Kosar put up 3642 in 1984, and his 31 TDs was the most ever, 2 more than Walsh's 29 in 1988. Malik Rosier is not as terrible as some of y'all are trying to make out. Do his stats hide how bad he was at times? Yes. Should we demand better than streaky QB play? Yes. But to say we won 10 games IN SPITE of Malik's contributions is as insane as saying all he did against FSU was complete one miracle pass. We gave up a lead in the 4th quarter of that game three times, and all three times, Malik marched us right back down and took back the lead.
 
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OkieCane said:
I don't care for Malik, but give me a RSr. who led the team to 10 wins and played in HUGE college games over a true freshman and another freshman who played sandlot football a year ago. Neither of whom who has taken a snap vs. an LSU D full of 4-5 star defenders or anything close. Now granted that defense somehow starts nothing but Fresh, R-Fresh and Soph. but it's still going to be nothing the HS kids have yet to see.


Let Malik win that game, the give the kids a chance later on if needed (and NOT the way he gave Allison his "chance")

Goal #1, get to 1-0 by beating LSU
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I tend to agree with you on this one. I honestly don't see CMR throwing any of the other 3 to the wolves IF they haven't clearly made significant progress come August.
 
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Malik isnt a good QB, but the streak of losing to FSU would have continued if it wasnt for him.

The defense badly **** the bed that game, but its forgotten about bc we won in such an amazing and soul crushing to Nole fans way.

I honestly believe the fastest way to offensive improvement could be in OL play. We never controlled teams up front the way a top 5 team should, and it caught up to us.

An elite OL is IMO more valuable than an elite QB.
 
Loose Cannon said:
Man if you had two brain cells it's be a family reunion.

Malik Rosier's 3605 yards is the most for a Hurricane QB since Bernie Kosar put up 3642 in 1984, and his 31 TDs was the most ever, 2 more than Walsh's 29 in 1988. Malik Rosier is not as terrible as some of y'all are trying to make out. Do his stats hide how bad he was at times? Yes. Should we demand better than streaky QB play? Yes. But to say we won 10 games IN SPITE of Malik's contributions is as insane as saying all he did against FSU was complete one miracle pass. We gave up a lead in the 4th quarter of that game three times, and all three times, Malik marched us right back down and took back the lead.
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Sick dad joke bro. Has the game of football change since the 1980s ? Yes .. Was that already a low bar for a record ? Yes. Wtf do you mean do his stats hide how bad he was he was bad all the ******* time. I'm **** well saying yes all he did was complete a miracle pass against Fsu. Where I lost it all was when Malik played like **** against a depleted unc team and as a 10-0 team sleep walked Pitt. The evidence to corroborate how bad he is has been posted like 12 times in this thread from him pass cmp % to third down % and balls getting batted down by bad dline men ... I can go on
 
PokemonFisherman said:
Sick dad joke bro. Has the game of football change since the 1980s ? Yes .. Was that already a low bar for a record ? Yes. Wtf do you mean do his stats hide how bad he was he was bad all the ******* time. I'm **** well saying yes all he did was complete a miracle pass against Fsu. Where I lost it all was when Malik played like **** against a depleted unc team and as a 10-0 team sleep walked Pitt. The evidence to corroborate how bad he is has been posted like 12 times in this thread from him pass cmp % to third down % and balls getting batted down by bad dline men ... I can go on
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You're functionally retarded and deserve no further consideration regarding this matter, so this is the last I will say regarding your highlighted "points."

1. Was that already a low bar for a record
Many a man has been under center since Kosar's 1984 season and Walsh's 1988 season, and nobody has been able to accomplish what the man you say never deserves another snap was able to accomplish. To write off Malik's 31 TD's as garbage numbers from a garbage QB that doesn't deserve to even be considered this season is to say that every other QB who's season record he buried is garbage as well. The game ain't change so much that contributing 31 touchdowns has become an insignificant, non-factor when determining the outcome of games and seasons. We won 10 games instead of 6 or 7 because of Malik's contributions, but we also won 10 instead of 12 because of Malik's contributions.

2. he was bad all the ******* time. I'm **** well saying yes all he did was complete a miracle pass against Fsu.
You don't account for 3600 yards and 31 TD's by being bad all the time. And against FSU our defense gave up 17 points in the 4th quarter. Our defense gave up a lead 3 times. Malik led the offense back down each time. Nobody else was QB the other 2 times we took the lead.

3.The evidence to corroborate how bad he is has been posted like 12 times in this thread from him pass cmp %
Malik Rosier threw for 54%, had 31 TD's and ovwer 3600 yards from scrimmage. In 2001, with the greatest college football team assembled, Ken Dorsey threw for 56%, 23 Td's and 2600 yards. And we almost lost to VaTech and Boston College. Your evidence is ****.
 
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