Ruiz stadium update

[Unsider]

Where’s the heliport for future flying Ubers, while we’re at it?

 

[Tad Footeball]

Grew up in Miami live in Hollywood and have been a season ticket holder for 40 years.

I will agree to disagree with you.

Have a great day!

Fair enough. Respect for the season ticket history.

I live in Lauderdale and can be at HRS in like 15 mins and have zerooooo problem if we stay there (Stevie Ross' Gayturd pandering and Michigan allegiances aside).

I just think any issues with a Tropical Park stadium site from a fan's perspective are adaptable to and that us as Broward (and north) residents need to refrain from complaints since we've had it much easier for like 15 years now than people that actually live near or go to UM.

 

[MovingZen]

bowl game, plus concerts, pro soccer exhibitions, etc... they aren't pouring all that money just for 6-8 days a year. Not arguing either way, just stating in his current comments, that entire park is shut down when big events are going on.

Well you didn't say all that in your original post but what keeps people from enjoying the park on game day? Lack of parking? Did they say the whole park would be shut down just for a stadium event?

 

[SPAMM]

Someone explain to me how this eliminates the "no on campus stadium narrative.". It is smaller, less convenient than present venue and still not on campus.

 

[Canedude08]

I see a lot of our fans posting negative things about this plan on social media.

It blows my mind man lol

We've been negative recruited about "our" stadium since 2008. How can one not see this being a good thing for the school?

And yea I agree. A lot of fans complaining are mad they have to drive an extra half hour if this comes to fruition.

If you love the canes, you make that drive with no issue

People have said things about us playing off campus for DECADES. AND? We are still playing off campus, the only difference is that we would now rent from Ruiz instead of Stephen Ross. I doubt Ruiz is going to spend hundreds of millions, if not BILLIONS of dollars for the stadium and just sign it over to the University.

Oh you'd be surprised. Kids, man. The area will change, some kids will walk back to school in a parade after a bad *** victory whooping it up the whole way, and ****, make a pub crawl out of it. But whatever, ride bikes, ride share, shuttles, you get the point.

Not. Need. Parking.

LMFAO at thinking that kids are going to walk almost THREE MILES at 11PM after a night game, especially in Miami heat. Yep, Miami students, most of whom can't be bothered to walk 2 minutes to the Watsco center are going to walk for an hour, in the middle of the day, in Miami heat, to get to a tailgate. I remember having to walk from the Metro station to the OB, because it was more efficient than waiting for a bus, and those walks were BRUTAL. That was only a 1 mile walk and it was awful. You had to be a diehard to even attempt it, and it was a limiting factor for a lot of students, because most didn't want to end up standing and waiting for 30 minutes for a bus, but walking was an endurance test.

If this stadium happens, either kids are going to be bussed in, or they are going to carpool and tailgate, much like they do at HRS. This is the issue a lot of the "We want a stadium" people fail to understand. The typical college doesn't have to worry about parking to that extreme, because a large chunk of their attendees live within easy walking distance of the stadium(IE Students). We won't ever play on campus, so you have to account for the students traveling to the game. The underground parking is a start, but you aren't going to be able to tailgate down there.

Parking is going to be a huge issue, as well as on site tailgating areas. People aren't going to be willing to trade in HRS with ample parking(Even with the construction) and a thriving tailgating culture(Something we never had before with the OB, because outside of a couple of grass fields, there really wasn't anywhere to do anything), just so we can brag on renting from someone other than Steve Ross.

Don't get me wrong, if Ruiz wants to spend the money and build an acceptable facility, I'm quite sure the University will have no problem taking the facility. That said, this "Build it and they will come" argument is just nonsense.

 

[Unsider]

Typically renting for 6 days a year as opposed to owning 365 days a year, is more economically viable. Unless you intend to sell the property some day and collect the equity.

There are pluses to owning it - ****, The U could rent or lease the stadium to so many events and concerts and have another revenue stream…think big my friend, think big like Ruiz.

 

[canecrazy23]

Fair enough. Respect for the season ticket history.

I live in Lauderdale and can be at HRS in like 15 mins and have zerooooo problem if we stay there (Stevie Ross' Gayturd pandering and Michigan allegiances aside).

I just think any issues with a Tropical Park stadium site from a fan's perspective are adaptable to and that us as Broward (and north) residents need to refrain from complaints since we've had it much easier for like 15 years now than people that actually live near or go to UM.

OK so since you've been going to HRS you know the entire experience is now top notch except the overpriced food on the 300 level. LOL

The tailgating and the ease of getting in and out is quite amazing. I'm a fan of the Tropical Park but I don't want us to have a stadium that is equivalent to UCF. The tailgating in the underground garage is No Bueno.

 

[canecrazy23]

People have said things about us playing off campus for DECADES. AND? We are still playing off campus, the only difference is that we would now rent from Ruiz instead of Stephen Ross. I doubt Ruiz is going to spend hundreds of millions, if not BILLIONS of dollars for the stadium and just sign it over to the University.

LMFAO at thinking that kids are going to walk almost THREE MILES at 11PM after a night game, especially in Miami heat. Yep, Miami students, most of whom can't be bothered to walk 2 minutes to the Watsco center are going to walk for an hour, in the middle of the day, in Miami heat, to get to a tailgate. I remember having to walk from the Metro station to the OB, because it was more efficient than waiting for a bus, and those walks were BRUTAL. That was only a 1 mile walk and it was awful. You had to be a diehard to even attempt it, and it was a limiting factor for a lot of students, because most didn't want to end up standing and waiting for 30 minutes for a bus, but walking was an endurance test.

If this stadium happens, either kids are going to be bussed in, or they are going to carpool and tailgate, much like they do at HRS. This is the issue a lot of the "We want a stadium" people fail to understand. The typical college doesn't have to worry about parking to that extreme, because a large chunk of their attendees live within easy walking distance of the stadium(IE Students). We won't ever play on campus, so you have to account for the students traveling to the game. The underground parking is a start, but you aren't going to be able to tailgate down there.

Parking is going to be a huge issue, as well as on site tailgating areas. People aren't going to be willing to trade in HRS with ample parking(Even with the construction) and a thriving tailgating culture(Something we never had before with the OB, because outside of a couple of grass fields, there really wasn't anywhere to do anything), just so we can brag on renting from someone other than Steve Ross.

Don't get me wrong, if Ruiz wants to spend the money and build an acceptable facility, I'm quite sure the University will have no problem taking the facility. That said, this "Build it and they will come" argument is just nonsense.

I keep trying to explain this. The students are a tiny part of the fans that go to the games. Yes they will not walk in 90 degree temps 3 miles.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Someone explain to me how this eliminates the "no on campus stadium narrative.". It is smaller, less convenient than present venue and still not on campus.

Because it's like 3 miles from the edge of campus to the edge of Tropical Park. It's like 3 miles from the edge of some big state schools to their "on-campus" stadium.

 

[Baba Yaga]

Someone explain to me how this eliminates the "no on campus stadium narrative.". It is smaller, less convenient than present venue and still not on campus.

It doesn't, but who GAF? We finally got an IPF and that still gets used against us by rivals bc it isn't exactly 100 yards (for now).

The OB wasn't on campus either, didn't stop us from recruiting well and winning natty's. Hard Rock hosts ******* Super Bowls buT it'Z n0t ON c@mPuS!!!

The asshats who don't want to see us back on top will use anything and everything they can against us. They'll twist every narrative possible to paint us in a negative light. Christ, John Ruiz is running NIL by the book but according to the gator asshat who helped write NIL law and publicly heaped praise upon Ruiz only a few months ago, is now having twitter tantrums and threatening to "expose" Ruiz because we're clobbering UiF on the trail and their collective, which is NOT the intent of NIL, can't compete.

 

[Tad Footeball]

OK so since you've been going to HRS you know the entire experience is now top notch except the overpriced food on the 300 level. LOL

The tailgating and the ease of getting in and out is quite amazing. I'm a fan of the Tropical Park but I don't want us to have a stadium that is equivalent to UCF. The tailgating in the underground garage is No Bueno.

Don't disagree. I love HRS as it's currently constituted (pending confirmation of the Green Lot being returned to its proper land). I also think we absolutely can have a major homefield advantage there too.

But there are also benefits to being closer to campus on an aesthetically pleasing piece of real estate in as close to "our own" stadium as we'll get.

I'll even admit that I think the chances of this happening are only like 33% too (higher than ever in recent times but still not great odds)- largely due to the obviously needed involvement of the county government.

That said, I like where we stand disirregardless. A world class current home and the possibility of very intriguing new option. Things could be (and have been) a lot worse.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Because it's like 3 miles from the edge of campus to the edge of Tropical Park. It's like 3 miles from the edge of some big state schools to their "on-campus" stadium.

I’ve been following this discussion and have politely declined to participate, except for this part.

The idea of students walking tropical park is absurd, it’s not going to happen no matter how you measure out the distance, even if it’s “only“ 2.5 miles, which actually is closer to four miles, and it’s walking on shltty narrow sidewalks (where there are even sidewalks).

Let’s keep it real, that’s not going to happen.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Imo the whole “off-campus stadium“ negative recruiting angle is an urban legend thats been debunked multiple times.

All that matters is investment in the program and most importantly, winning.

It’s a world class facility kids love to play in, when we win.

 

[mirvin88]

People have said things about us playing off campus for DECADES. AND? We are still playing off campus, the only difference is that we would now rent from Ruiz instead of Stephen Ross. I doubt Ruiz is going to spend hundreds of millions, if not BILLIONS of dollars for the stadium and just sign it over to the University.

LMFAO at thinking that kids are going to walk almost THREE MILES at 11PM after a night game, especially in Miami heat. Yep, Miami students, most of whom can't be bothered to walk 2 minutes to the Watsco center are going to walk for an hour, in the middle of the day, in Miami heat, to get to a tailgate. I remember having to walk from the Metro station to the OB, because it was more efficient than waiting for a bus, and those walks were BRUTAL. That was only a 1 mile walk and it was awful. You had to be a diehard to even attempt it, and it was a limiting factor for a lot of students, because most didn't want to end up standing and waiting for 30 minutes for a bus, but walking was an endurance test.

If this stadium happens, either kids are going to be bussed in, or they are going to carpool and tailgate, much like they do at HRS. This is the issue a lot of the "We want a stadium" people fail to understand. The typical college doesn't have to worry about parking to that extreme, because a large chunk of their attendees live within easy walking distance of the stadium(IE Students). We won't ever play on campus, so you have to account for the students traveling to the game. The underground parking is a start, but you aren't going to be able to tailgate down there.

Parking is going to be a huge issue, as well as on site tailgating areas. People aren't going to be willing to trade in HRS with ample parking(Even with the construction) and a thriving tailgating culture(Something we never had before with the OB, because outside of a couple of grass fields, there really wasn't anywhere to do anything), just so we can brag on renting from someone other than Steve Ross.

Don't get me wrong, if Ruiz wants to spend the money and build an acceptable facility, I'm quite sure the University will have no problem taking the facility. That said, this "Build it and they will come" argument is just nonsense.

I understand the reservations regarding parking and transportation because I have them as well. But I think you underestimate the impact, if done well, this would have for the university and program. Even 3 miles from campus it's still for all intent and purpose an on campus. It's the closest most realistic site the city dictates.

We also have no idea the deal the University would get, it's all speculation. It could turn out to be pretty lucrative and another source of cash flow for the university and athletics. I have no idea what our deal is with HRS but I doubt we are getting any cut other than part of the revenue our games generate. This project could turn out to be a year-round stream of revenue. Ruiz would obviously get his fair share but I'd wager he'd give us a better deal than HRS.

If it's done right with things to do in the area I think that could mitigate some traffic because it would stagger the number of people arriving and when they arrive. A lot will get there really early for the sports bar and hang all day. Others trickling in later just for the game, etc. And this is only considering major sold out games. Lower ACC games probably won't be an issue.

Just wait for more information before jumping the gun on it being a positive or negative proposal. However you slice it, having "our own" stadium is more appealing to a lot of people opposed to renting HRS.


Edit: if the city really gets serious about it, a metro mover from the University stop would be quite nice.

 

[SPAMM]

OK so since you've been going to HRS you know the entire experience is now top notch except the overpriced food on the 300 level. LOL

The tailgating and the ease of getting in and out is quite amazing. I'm a fan of the Tropical Park but I don't want us to have a stadium that is equivalent to UCF. The tailgating in the underground garage is No Bueno.

And most municipalities have fire codes that prevent flames (cooking) inside of a parking structure.In fact this is a state Fire Code limitation.

 

[LoungeLord]

Heck I'm one of them... Location is so important, but there really isn't anywhere to build a college football stadium remotely close to campus. Add in the traffic + town/city approvals requirements + funding, it is an incredibly difficult challenge for anyone to take on.

I love that the Ruiz family has the grit to at least try, but unless they plan to burn down Marlin's stadium or blow up a few Coral Gables neighborhoods near campus, I'm not sure how they pull it off...

Why does it have to be close to campus? There aren’t that many people on campus to fill 45000 plus seats.

 

[canesstevealum08]

I understand the reservations regarding parking and transportation because I have them as well. But I think you underestimate the impact, if done well, this would have for the university and program. Even 3 miles from campus it's still for all intent and purpose an on campus. It's the closest most realistic site the city dictates.

We also have no idea the deal the University would get, it's all speculation. It could turn out to be pretty lucrative and another source of cash flow for the university and athletics. I have no idea what our deal is with HRS but I doubt we are getting any cut other than part of the revenue our games generate. This project could turn out to be a year-round stream of revenue. Ruiz would obviously get his fair share but I'd wager he'd give us a better deal than HRS.

If it's done right with things to do in the area I think that could mitigate some traffic because it would stagger the number of people arriving and when they arrive. A lot will get there really early for the sports bar and hang all day. Others trickling in later just for the game, etc. And this is only considering major sold out games. Lower ACC games probably won't be an issue.

Just wait for more information before jumping the gun on it being a positive or negative proposal. However you slice it, having "our own" stadium is more appealing to a lot of people opposed to renting

Let's hope that ownership is included in this scenario. Cause if we're just swapping out one landlord for another then HRS IS BETTER! HOWEVER, to maximize the way they can use the park with mix use & bars It'll be one of the one of the best atmospheres in college football! I just wonder if Ruiz factors in how long the political fight will take because the city has fatigue over marlins and intermiami issues.

 

[Tru C]

So beautiful. I just want to cry. So many years of enduring message board negative posters constantly spewing cant do talk. Now we have a GM over football, analysts, big time staff, billionaire friends of the program, a real AD, and now this. The biggest negative poster rallying point of them all. Miami with its own stadium. I dont care that it hasn’t happened yet but just the fact that its being pushed and renderings made, its just a testament that when people tell you something isn’t possible, it feels good to say **** off

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Let's hope that ownership is included in this scenario. Cause if we're just swapping out one landlord for another then HRS IS BETTER! HOWEVER, to maximize the way they can use the park with mix use & bars It'll be one of the one of the best atmospheres in college football! I just wonder if Ruiz factors in how long the political fight will take because the city has fatigue over marlins and intermiami issues.

I’m not 100% sold on the park/multi use/bars concept in that area. It sounds real pretty when people are talking about it, the same way that Marlins Stadium was talked about before it was built. I know that’s a different situation, but these things are much more complex than people make them out to be.

 

[canesstevealum08]

I’m not 100% sold on the park/multi use/bars concept in that area. It sounds real pretty when people are talking about it, the same way that Marlins Stadium was talked about before it was built. I know that’s a different situation, but these things are much more complex than people make them out to be.

Indeed, but like you said it's much more viable there than little Havana.