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PIPO said:
Mario’s middle name is “Wreckless.”
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Mario's Cafecito Cup every morning!
 
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DMoney said:
This is what I said about Emory in high school:



That was almost three years ago.

I’ve gone on YouTube every day since Syracuse saying we needed a Portal QB.

When people on here said Emory was just as good as Mendoza, I told them they were wrong and he would be a significant upgrade. This is all on record.

You come on here with no facts and vent emotionally. It’s your right- I appreciate the clicks. But don’t get mad at me because the season didn’t go the way you liked. Handle your emotions like a grown up.
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My man, I can go digging if you want. You have absolutely had positive things to say about Emory. Not something you passed along.

You want me to also list all of your GREENTREE ALL AMERICANS who literally amounted to nothing here?

Vent? I don't vent. I just call out bull****. Funny how you ignored everything else except Emory. You really think people don't see through what you do? Again, you are 100% an extension of Mario and push out what they want or again, you really don't know what you are looking at. And this is nothing new.
 
STG said:
My man, I can go digging if you want. You have absolutely had positive things to say about Emory. Not something you passed along.

You want me to also list all of your GREENTREE ALL AMERICANS who literally amounted to nothing here?

Vent? I don't vent. I just call out bull****. Funny how you ignored everything else except Emory. You really think people don't see through what you do? Again, you are 100% an extension of Mario and push out what they want or again, you really don't know what you are looking at. And this is nothing new.
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Of course, I’ve said positive things about Emory. I’m not out here to rip apart teenagers. But I’ve made my opinion pretty clear that we needed more from the starting QB position.
 
Let's not let budget semantics get in the way of an eval and development discussion -- if we weren’t paying WaffleHouse Honcho #1, #7 and #25, all currently fleeing overrated missed evals at DE, and hit on evals and development, we would be able to pay for a top back heading into year 4. Martinez is not free. Cam is not free. --- allocate accordingly.

Give back salary like Gundy and Memphis Mike, if you don't have enough for roster management.
 
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DMoney said:
Of course, I’ve said positive things about Emory. I’m not out here to rip apart teenagers. But I’ve made my opinion pretty clear that we needed more from the starting QB position.
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So now you've said positive things. Got it. Changed quickly.

And what the **** did you see, that showed anything positive? Because his actual play on Saturdays, he has shown NOTHING that he belongs as a scholly QB at this level. Let alone a starter in the ACC. So again, you either don't know what you are looking at or are just propping **** up for the program and or Mario.

In addition, CFB is not an amateur sport anymore. The second these young men, and that's what they are, not teenagers, were able to be compensated, treating them as amateurs went out the window. You should be able to and have no problem reporting on them like professionals, because that is what they are now.
 
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STG said:
So now you've said positive things. Got it. Changed quickly.

And what the **** did you see, that showed anything positive? Because his actual play on Saturdays, he has shown NOTHING that he belongs as a scholly QB at this level. Let alone a starter in the ACC. So again, you either don't know what you are looking at or are just propping **** up for the program and or Mario.

In addition, CFB is not an amateur sport anymore. The second these young men, and that's what they are, not teenagers, were able to be compensated, treating them as amateurs went out the window. You should be able to and have no problem reporting on them like professionals, because that is what they are now.
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you can say positive things about someone without saying they should be the starting QB at the University of Miami. There is a wide gap between saying a player is starting caliber and that he is trash. That middle ground you are ignoring is where @DMoney's positivity lands.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I’m not arguing there shouldn’t be a pecking order. I think every single fan would say we should ABSOLUTELY allocate a majority of funds to the defense. It would be a criminal offense not to. Unfortunately, we might have even more holes than we perceived on defense due to a lack of development, but that’s a separate argument. And now we have to spend more on hiring a whole new defensive staff. I would argue we still haven’t done enough to address the defensive side of the ball, considering who we will lose on the DL…

But the fact remains, this is not an excuse to ignore other positions when top talent comes into the portal. Oregon has recruited very well at WR, and yet they go out and add Evan Stewart as a vertical threat, which In turn has completely opened up the middle of the field for Tez Johnson to destroy corners in space.

Like Memnon alluded to earlier, Ohio State refused to rest on their laurels and added Judkins to their backfield, when they could have saved money and rode with Henderson.

Ole Miss dealt with a ton of injuries this year at the WR position, but they kept adding in the offseason knowing enough wasn’t enough. Even with their #1 hurt, they still almost made the playoff because they kept the cupboard stocked with playmakers.

Texas signed 5-star WRs in Johntay Cook and Ryan Wingo the past few seasons, but that didn’t stop them from going out and snagging Isaiah Bond from Bama and Golden from Houston. Lo and behold, their top 2 WRs.

You yourself told me at the tailgate that this roster might cost more than Ohio State - so why can’t we afford an upgrade at a position where we’re losing both Allen and (probably) Martinez? Especially when no matter who we sign at QB, it’ll be a massive drop off from Ward? We have the OL to run behind, why not add a dynamic workhorse and keep Lyle as a dangerous change of pace back?

I think personally, you know the real answer. Miami has lived in an age of settling with what they have. It’s time to stop that and be the aggressors, no matter where the talent falls.
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If Ward cost $2M, but QBs now are costing over $3M, but you still have the same budget how many players do you think that should realistically cost us? Given we are spending much more on DB than we did last year and likely end up spending similar on WR ultimately. Cause let me tell you this spending an additional $1M on QB is likely to cost us more than just a starting RB. Y'all be living in lala land when it comes to this ****. RB is literally the lowest priority on the entire offense when it comes to what we need to spend money on.

In a perfect world I would take a RB and let Fletcher leave cause to me he just isn't good. He's average and him fumbling has screwed us multiple times and he never gets punished for it.

Put it this way if we roll into Spring with Nickel as our starting QB, I'll bet we sign quite a few Portal Players on offense that are available. BecUse that means we will have not spend min $2M+ on a QB this portal period.
 
Canesfan3234 said:
you can say positive things about someone without saying they should be the starting QB at the University of Miami. There is a wide gap between saying a player is starting caliber and that he is trash. That middle ground you are ignoring is where @DMoney's positivity lands.
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And again, what is there positve about Emory? Besides being a likeable young man. He has shown NOTHING positive as an actual QB.
 
Calinative said:
If Ward cost $2M, but QBs now are costing over $3M, but you still have the same budget how many players do you think that should realistically cost us? Given we are spending much more on DB than we did last year and likely end up spending similar on WR ultimately. Cause let me tell you this spending an additional $1M on QB is likely to cost us more than just a starting RB. Y'all be living in lala land when it comes to this ****. RB is literally the lowest priority on the entire offense when it comes to what we need to spend money on.

In a perfect world I would take a RB and let Fletcher leave cause to me he just isn't good. He's average and him fumbling has screwed us multiple times and he never gets punished for it.

Put it this way if we roll into Spring with Nickel as our starting QB, I'll bet we sign quite a few Portal Players on offense that are available. BecUse that means we will have not spend min $2M+ on a QB this portal period.
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Every adult here knows how a ******* budget works, and the comment about it was akin to old Pete and Geo crying after being called out -- complete weak sauce.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Brother I’m about to rant/tangent

Yes you said it a thousand times while people kept claiming he “had no vision”

Lemme vent. One of the things that has ****ed me off the most since Mario got here is our running back rotations. Everyone knows running backs get better with reps

We talk about our second quarter issues? What’s a common theme? Martinez isn’t in the game

Exhibit 400 we had the lead Saturday and the defense finally got a stop. We march and then Fletcher ******* fumbles

The **** is he even doing in the game when Martinez is unstoppable?

If Jeanty was a Cane no one would even know his name because that mfer would be getting 7 carries a game because **** a hot hand. **** a clear cut #1 RB…it’s all about splitting carries
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Bruh I've been going hard about our RBs lol. I have BEEN saying how we used Fletcher made no sense.

Next yr the snap share will make more sense without Martinez back there. A 1-2-3 of Lyle, Fletcher, Pringle will work itself out nicely regarding snap allocation imo. Fletcher will still get too many snaps but at least it'll make more sense.

However unlike you I don't really mind the alternating drives for RBs too much. It just has to make sense
 
Some real valid points made by @STG @DMoney @JHallCanes and others good discourse and sometimes it’s OK to agree to disagree and not let things get personal.

My question for you @DMoney is do you think our running game will be anywhere near as successful next year as it was this year? You stated several times that we have a good stable of running backs returning even without Martinez and a strong offensive line that as of now is only going to lose Jalen Rivers and Zach Carpenter. Rivers is a loss, no matter how we slice it but if we get Brockermeyer at worst will break even at center and possibly have a slight upgrade.

Losing Martinez will automatically make our running game weaker next year, unless we replace him with somebody close to his talent level. I’m not advocating spending a lot of money on a running back because I agree with you. There are other holes more prevalent to fill and we don’t have the money an Oregon has.

But the big issue as I see it and would like your thoughts @DMoney…IMO Cam Ward was as an important factor in the success of our run game this year. There was no way opposing defenses could stack the box against us because Cam was **** near unstoppable so that in turn helped our running game immensely. With Emory, Luke or a 2nd tier portal QB under center, our vaunted OL or the 3 headed monster of Lyle, Fletcher and Pringle wont have near the same success.

Thoughts?
 
Angry Ibis said:
Every adult here knows how a ******* budget work, and the comment about it was akin to old Pete and Geo crying after being called out -- complete weak sauce.
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No I don't believe you idiots do since you're begging to spend big on RB.
 
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Calinative said:
Bruh I've been going hard about our RBs lol. I have BEEN saying how we used Fletcher made no sense.

Next yr the snap share will make more sense without Martinez back there. A 1-2-3 of Lyle, Fletcher, Pringle will work itself out nicely regarding snap allocation imo. Fletcher will still get too many snaps but at least it'll make more sense.

However unlike you I don't really mind the alternating drives for RBs too much. It just has to make sense
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I don’t hate rotating drives as a concept

I don’t like how I’ve seen it so stubbornly used this year at times though

I also realize I’m not on the sideline having conversations. Maybe someone takes a big shot and needs a break?

I think it’s counterproductive to watch a running back find his groove and then bring in someone else just for the sake of rotating though
 
Calinative said:
If Ward cost $2M, but QBs now are costing over $3M, but you still have the same budget how many players do you think that should realistically cost us? Given we are spending much more on DB than we did last year and likely end up spending similar on WR ultimately. Cause let me tell you this spending an additional $1M on QB is likely to cost us more than just a starting RB. Y'all be living in lala land when it comes to this ****. RB is literally the lowest priority on the entire offense when it comes to what we need to spend money on.

In a perfect world I would take a RB and let Fletcher leave cause to me he just isn't good. He's average and him fumbling has screwed us multiple times and he never gets punished for it.

Put it this way if we roll into Spring with Nickel as our starting QB, I'll bet we sign quite a few Portal Players on offense that are available. BecUse that means we will have not spend min $2M+ on a QB this portal period.
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The bolded assumption, if true, is only further indication this team is absolutely ****ed.
 
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