Proof of Randomness in College Baseball

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Cool, except that the only reason "random" ever came up was when you people were defending Morris. Do you think this began as a CWS-probability discussion?

I've never been able to discuss anything else because of your obsession with denigrating one of the great coaches in the game.

Anybody who follows competitive athletics can spot randomness fairly easily.

I would make the same arguments regardless. In fact I'll be making them when Gino is the coach.
 
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Cool, except that the only reason "random" ever came up was when you people were defending Morris. Do you think this began as a CWS-probability discussion?

I've never been able to discuss anything else because of your obsession with denigrating one of the great coaches in the game.

Anybody who follows competitive athletics can spot randomness fairly easily.

I would make the same arguments regardless. In fact I'll be making them when Gino is the coach.

Ah, so your real goal is to make sure everyone knows that the CWS is random. Had nothing to do with Jim Morris.

See how easy that was to admit? Must feel good to get it off your chest. All that bandwidth wasted just to find out that we agree that Jim Morris runs a program that doesn't win in Omaha.
 
So the teams that get there most often also win the majority of the games, but this crazy sport is just so random.

Again, misrepresenting the argument.

You're bringing up the whole season (which is much less random) when we're talking about the CWS.

We know you can't win on the subject so this is what you resort to.
 
So the teams that get there most often also win the majority of the games, but this crazy sport is just so random.

Again, misrepresenting the argument.

You're bringing up the whole season (which is much less random) when we're talking about the CWS.

We know you can't win on the subject so this is what you resort to.

Uh, the "whole season" is your gig. You know, "we won the Coastal", that kind of stuff.

My point has been solid for a year: the same small group of teams wins the most games in Omaha. Fact.
 
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By the way, since we're never the #1 RPI team, the #1 ISR team, the #1 team in Baseball America, or the #1 National Seed, one might think we have a better chance, since the best team never wins.

We were # 1 in the RPI in 2015.

We were also the # 1 national seed in 1999 (the only # 1 national seed to win it).

We were the 3rd favorite in the CWS field in 2016 when the longest shot of the 8 teams won it (Coastal Carolina).
 
So the teams that get there most often also win the majority of the games

Florida has 6 appearances but only won games in 3 of those years.

So it has taken the same amount of appearances as Miami (since 2008) to win those games. It's the same for almost every other team as well. All it takes is one (or two) runs to skew the numbers.
 
Still waiting to see who said that Florida was the predictable winner every year.

If their coach is great and their program so sound then why are they just as likely to flame out 0-2 as they are to win a game?

Florida has been more predictable a champion than they were this year but you ignore all other evidence and just go with the one-off.

That's all you do.
 
So the teams that get there most often also win the majority of the games

Florida has 6 appearances but only won games in 3 of those years.

So it has taken the same amount of appearances as Miami (since 2008) to win those games. It's the same for almost every other team as well. All it takes is one (or two) runs to skew the numbers.

Right.....the same programs get to Omaha and win games and eventually put the whole thing together. Just not Miami.
 
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Still waiting to see who said that Florida was the predictable winner every year.

If their coach is great and their program so sound then why are they just as likely to flame out 0-2 as they are to win a game?

Florida has been more predictable a champion than they were this year but you ignore all other evidence and just go with the one-off.

That's all you do.

Don't blame me that you think Florida was the predictable option every year. Have that argument with one of your other screen names.
 
If their coach is great and their program so sound then why are they just as likely to flame out 0-2 as they are to win a game?

Florida has been more predictable a champion than they were this year but you ignore all other evidence and just go with the one-off.

That's all you do.

FYI - don't tell us about sound coaches and programs when comparing Florida and Miami. We're not in the same stratosphere right now.
 
Oh, I see. You're still relying on your own version of predictable. RPI and National Seeds.

Or, again, every single measure you could come up with.

AVG
2016: .278
2017: .259

SLG
2016: .395
2017: .378

OBP
2016: .358
2017: .355

ERA
2016: 2.91
2017: 3.45

FLD
2016: .984
2017: .981

Last year's team was better in every aspect of the game. They hit nearly 20 points higher as a team. Their team ERA was considerably lower. And so on.

And the metrics you love to hate...

RPI
2016: 1
2017: 3

ISR
2016: 1
2017: 3

Baseball America
2016: 2
2017: 5

But you'll keep harping on just the RPI and ignoring everything else.

It's what you do.
 
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Uh, the "whole season" is your gig. You know, "we won the Coastal", that kind of stuff.

Yeah, I know. How silly right?

Who would ever use the whole season to determine a team's ability? It's better to take 10 days of games played in June in Nebraska.
 
That's exactly how it all started. People were trashing Morris, and you jumped in to save the day. Not his fault. It's all random.

People were trashing Morris using stupid arguments. They're mostly just emotional fanboys who don't know anything about what they're watching.

I doubt that they pay attention to all of this but hopefully they learned something.
 
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