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My take on Jake Heaps

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Republicane said:
I have a hard time believing that Heaps would be transferring anywhere that he wasn't given certain assurances that he would be a front runner for the starting job right away.

Personally I'd rather lose 6-7 games with Kaaya starting than win 7 or 8 with Heaps starting, and then likely taking a step back next year with Kaaya as goes through his growing pains. It would be different if Heaps was the kind of talent that could lead you to a BCS bowl, then I could see it. But if the difference in talent is negligible, why waste a year on a guy who won't be here next year over a guy who'll be here for the next 3?

The only benefit in my eyes to Heaps starting is it means that Golden feels his seat warming up and knows he has to produce results to keep his job. So he'll go with the "safe" bet at QB who might be able to win 7 or 8 games and then Golden can trot out his "trending up LULZ!" charts and graphs in the hopes of buying himself mre time. Could that also lead to him ****canning his slackjawed paisan at DC when things go south week 1? Hopefully. If he starts Kaaya, while good for UM in the long run it would be the move a coach feeling no pressure on himself to win games immediately would make.

Now he could read the situation wrong, but its unlikely that Shalala is suddenly going to develop a keen interest in winning games and fire him if he fails with Kaaya under center.
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Preach on bra.. this post nailed it... All of sudden, Williams is an ALL- American and had lots of experience under his belt. Golden continues to crown Williams, yet he couldnt beat out Morris!!?!! Explain that..! This is Golden's excuse for those soft shoulder ***** asssseeessss fans out there who believe in his teenage talk..
****, i was born at night, but NOT last night my ninja.. Im sick and tired of this ******* staff.I love my canes too much to go through this artificial, candy land non-sense. Golden is panicking already...Grow some ******* cojones and provide feedback,guidance & expectations for your young Qb's..

IM HURT DAWG!!!
 
Well, it appears that the coaches disagree with some of the posters on here that don't think experience at QB is all that important, based on on the extreme outlier exploits of two Heisman Trophy winners in Manziel and Winston.

The big question this exposes is why didn't we go harder after the Winston's back-up, whom Coley presumably had a relationship with. Perhaps the simple answer is that FSU would not have let him transfer to an ACC rival.

bottom line, when a team only has two freshman QBs competing for the starter's job, and the one on campus has been nothing but inconsistent in practice, there should be serious concern. Worse still, the best friend of a young QB is a dominant defense. We've seen nothing over the last four years to indicate our defense will be dominant, especially given our DT recruiting.
 
Why do you guys ***** about DT recruiting in every thread? Golden's been pulling studs at EVERY other position, and pulled in 4 DT's this year including 2 JUCO's. Why do you turn a thread about Jake Heaps into DT recruiting? ******* whiners, good lord.
 
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I'm ok with bringing him in for a year. I remember Heaps vaguely coming out of high school. As I recall, he had a good freshman campaign at BYU.

Anyone know why he transferred to Kansas? Did he think Weiss was the second coming? Anyone have the scoop on why he left BYU?
 
HurricaneU said:
I'm ok with bringing him in for a year. I remember Heaps vaguely coming out of high school. As I recall, he had a good freshman campaign at BYU.

Anyone know why he transferred to Kansas? Did he think Weiss was the second coming? Anyone have the scoop on why he left BYU?
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His 2 year Mormon mission was in Kansas?
 
Another highly touted transfer has fizzled out as the Kansas starting quarterback.

Former five-star prospect Jake Heaps, who was heralded by coach Charlie Weis after his arrival from BYU, said in a statement issued by the school Friday that he'd be leaving the program when he finishes his degree requirements at the end of the month.

Wide receiver Andrew Turzilli, who graduated in May, also said that he is leaving the program, while running back Darrian Miller has left for what Weis called "personal reasons."

Heaps was considered one of the nation's top prep quarterbacks coming out of Washington's Skyline High School. He ended up at BYU and set several freshman passing records, but eventually lost his starting job and decided to transfer to Kansas.

But like former Notre Dame quarterback Dayne Crist, who also lost his starting job after joining the Jayhawks, Heaps was eventually passed over as the starter by freshman Montell Cozart.
Heaps only completed 49 percent of his passes for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and 10 interceptions as the Jayhawks struggled to a 3-9 finish last season.

"I am very grateful for the opportunity given to me by Coach Weis to play football and earn my college degree," Heaps said. "My wife and I have truly enjoyed being part of the Jayhawk community. We have made lifelong friends through this experience."

It's unclear whether Heaps intends to play elsewhere next season. As a graduate transfer, Heaps would be eligible to play immediately.

The same is true for Turzilli, who was expected to provide some depth in a wide receiving corps that struggled all of last season. Turzilli started seven of the 24 games he played over the course of three seasons, catching 27 passes for 491 yards and two touchdowns.

"I am extremely proud to have earned my degree," Turzilli said. "I am thankful for all of the relationships I have made during my time at Kansas and I wish the entire program nothing but the best in the future."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765654976/Heaps-Turzilli-Miller-leave-Kansas-football-team.html

This is low risk to me. But it's never a good thing to be beat out by a freshman.
 
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Bennubird said:
Pretty much feel like this is Kaaya's job to lose unless Olsen wakes up. Heaps is insurance if the lights prove to be too big for Kaaya/Olsen. Initially, I thought they were bringing in Heaps to start. I think they will let him compete, but if he couldn't win and keep the starting job at BYU or Kansas, I don't think he'll be able to do it here. If he does win and does start, he **** will better do more than manage the game, cause one of our youngsters could do that. At the end of the day, I just want a QB that actually performs like what a UM QB should perform like.

Tad Footeball said:
We in a Heaps of trouble.

Actually I don't know why people have a problem with this. He provides the same insurance that Williams was always going to provide if Alfred did what a ton of you (us) wanted- had a real competition between Olsen and Kaaya. I'm sorry. I bet Williams is a great kid but I bet there's no appreciable difference between what he was going to be and what Heaps would be. If anything Heaps probably has a higher upside. All that said, mannnnnnnn I wish Kaaya had been an early enrollee.
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I'm all for the move if the coaching staff feels we can win big with him. By winning big Im talking about BCS bowl.
If not meaning if he only brings marginal improvment than its a waste. Go with who you have and make the best of it.
 
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Cane Dynasty said:
All this means is that Dorito Golden knows his schit don't stink and the heat is on ****!

Heaps is a disaster at QB. He was horrible at BYU although admittedly I didn't follow him much after that. As far as the "it" factor, he aint got it.

What happens if Heaps is actually playing decently when RW is healthy enough to play again? QB controversy for DAYS, that's what.
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He was horrible at BYU but broke every freshman qb record there?
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LOL...next thing you will hear is how horrible BYU is historically at the QB and WR positions.

UM
 
Shows that they have zero confidence in Olsen. I think best case Heaps starts and we win 8 or 9 games. I could see us being 3-4 or something like that and then turning it over to Kaaya.
 
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He looks decent in that video, probably better than anything we would've had for Game 1 without him though I've got high hopes for Kaaya.
 
Heaps was a 2nd Team All Big 12 QB. I will take him in a heartbeat. UM needs Heaps and Heaps needs UM.


DMoney said:
Think Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson in Seattle. If one of the young QBs is ready, Coley and Golden won't hesitate to start him. If they're not ready, Heaps provides insurance. You don't want to be forced to play a young QB before he's ready. That could be a confidence-killer.

This move should tell you what Pete and I have been trying to say for months: Olsen has been struggling on and off the field. He is only a redshirt freshman and has a lot of time to turn it around. I've seen signs of growth in 7on7s. But the pressure is on him now from all sides.
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ssj4cane said:
Shows that they have zero confidence in Olsen. I think best case Heaps starts and we win 8 or 9 games. I could see us being 3-4 or something like that and then turning it over to Kaaya.
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I been saying for months. Al doesnt like Olsen for whatever reason. he doesn't want to play him and its evident. that's why i believe Olsen will transfer after this season. if he doesn't win it this year. he will never win it.
 
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Miami82 said:
Another highly touted transfer has fizzled out as the Kansas starting quarterback.

Former five-star prospect Jake Heaps, who was heralded by coach Charlie Weis after his arrival from BYU, said in a statement issued by the school Friday that he'd be leaving the program when he finishes his degree requirements at the end of the month.

Wide receiver Andrew Turzilli, who graduated in May, also said that he is leaving the program, while running back Darrian Miller has left for what Weis called "personal reasons."

Heaps was considered one of the nation's top prep quarterbacks coming out of Washington's Skyline High School. He ended up at BYU and set several freshman passing records, but eventually lost his starting job and decided to transfer to Kansas.

But like former Notre Dame quarterback Dayne Crist, who also lost his starting job after joining the Jayhawks, Heaps was eventually passed over as the starter by freshman Montell Cozart.
Heaps only completed 49 percent of his passes for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and 10 interceptions as the Jayhawks struggled to a 3-9 finish last season.

"I am very grateful for the opportunity given to me by Coach Weis to play football and earn my college degree," Heaps said. "My wife and I have truly enjoyed being part of the Jayhawk community. We have made lifelong friends through this experience."

It's unclear whether Heaps intends to play elsewhere next season. As a graduate transfer, Heaps would be eligible to play immediately.

The same is true for Turzilli, who was expected to provide some depth in a wide receiving corps that struggled all of last season. Turzilli started seven of the 24 games he played over the course of three seasons, catching 27 passes for 491 yards and two touchdowns.

"I am extremely proud to have earned my degree," Turzilli said. "I am thankful for all of the relationships I have made during my time at Kansas and I wish the entire program nothing but the best in the future."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765654976/Heaps-Turzilli-Miller-leave-Kansas-football-team.html

This is low risk to me. But it's never a good thing to be beat out by a freshman.
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Kansas switched to a spread option attack over the offseason. Heaps is a pocket passer, not a good fit for that system.
 
850Cane said:
ssj4cane said:
Shows that they have zero confidence in Olsen. I think best case Heaps starts and we win 8 or 9 games. I could see us being 3-4 or something like that and then turning it over to Kaaya.
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I been saying for months. Al doesnt like Olsen for whatever reason. he doesn't want to play him and its evident. that's why i believe Olsen will transfer after this season. if he doesn't win it this year. he will never win it.
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Heaps will win the job, and Miami will win 10 or more games. The kid's a stud. IMO he's a better QB than Olsen and perhaps Kaaya, experience aside.
 
I remember watching this kid as a freshman, and he looked really good. Down here he will have the best group of skill players he has ever had. Not to mention he won't be learning from that obese, hard-breathing, overated Charlie Weiss, anymore. Let's face it, as far as coaching goes, that guy makes D'Onfrio look like **** LeBeau. Competition breeds success. This can only help.
 
Fightinibis said:
___THEU___ said:
Cane Dynasty said:
All this means is that Dorito Golden knows his schit don't stink and the heat is on ****!

Heaps is a disaster at QB. He was horrible at BYU although admittedly I didn't follow him much after that. As far as the "it" factor, he aint got it.

What happens if Heaps is actually playing decently when RW is healthy enough to play again? QB controversy for DAYS, that's what.
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He was horrible at BYU but broke every freshman qb record there?
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LOL...next thing you will hear is how horrible BYU is historically at the QB and WR positions.

UM
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This is an ignorant and stupid post. All the good WR's and QB's were back in the LaVell Edwards era. The only one that was good that saw any significant playing time as a frosh was Ty Detmer. All the rest of the good ones sat their first couple of years.

I know. I live in Utah and have been force fed this BYU and UofUtah schit my entire life.

BYU has never had great receivers. EVER. An occasional quality guy here and there but never any earth shattering game breakers.

GTFO with your unfounded and ignoramus sounding statements.

Jesus ******* wept.....again.
 
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