My take on Jake Heaps

[ProjectMKUltra5]

All this means is that Dorito Golden knows his schit don't stink and the heat is on ****!

Heaps is a disaster at QB. He was horrible at BYU although admittedly I didn't follow him much after that. As far as the "it" factor, he aint got it.

What happens if Heaps is actually playing decently when RW is healthy enough to play again? QB controversy for DAYS, that's what.

Does this also mean that GASP!!!!!! Baby Jesus actually.......isn't?

Dumbest statement of the day

 

[Bennubird]

Pretty much feel like this is Kaaya's job to lose unless Olsen wakes up. Heaps is insurance if the lights prove to be too big for Kaaya/Olsen. Initially, I thought they were bringing in Heaps to start. I think they will let him compete, but if he couldn't win and keep the starting job at BYU or Kansas, I don't think he'll be able to do it here. If he does win and does start, he **** will better do more than manage the game, cause one of our youngsters could do that. At the end of the day, I just want a QB that actually performs like what a UM QB should perform like.

We in a Heaps of trouble.

Actually I don't know why people have a problem with this. He provides the same insurance that Williams was always going to provide if Alfred did what a ton of you (us) wanted- had a real competition between Olsen and Kaaya. I'm sorry. I bet Williams is a great kid but I bet there's no appreciable difference between what he was going to be and what Heaps would be. If anything Heaps probably has a higher upside. All that said, mannnnnnnn I wish Kaaya had been an early enrollee.

 

[___THEU___]

I agree with adding Heaps of **** but it shows how bad Golden qb recruiting has been.

That's a dumb statement. In 3 real recruiting classes he has brought in 2 top 10 qbs.

Yea its not poor recruiting its that we havent developed them enough or our scheme isnt very qb friendly. I mean Texas Tech marched in 2 True freshamn, 1 being a walk on and made them look like heiman candidates last year but wide open spread offense you just sit back and deliver the ball to open man. And read option teams can march in young guys cause there using there legs to move chains and improvise.

 

[3FW]

Reef 515 LOL. Two straight elite 11 QBs, **** job.

 

[killab23]

I have a hard time believing that Heaps would be transferring anywhere that he wasn't given certain assurances that he would be a front runner for the starting job right away.

Personally I'd rather lose 6-7 games with Kaaya starting than win 7 or 8 with Heaps starting, and then likely taking a step back next year with Kaaya as goes through his growing pains. It would be different if Heaps was the kind of talent that could lead you to a BCS bowl, then I could see it. But if the difference in talent is negligible, why waste a year on a guy who won't be here next year over a guy who'll be here for the next 3?

The only benefit in my eyes to Heaps starting is it means that Golden feels his seat warming up and knows he has to produce results to keep his job. So he'll go with the "safe" bet at QB who might be able to win 7 or 8 games and then Golden can trot out his "trending up LULZ!" charts and graphs in the hopes of buying himself mre time. Could that also lead to him ****canning his slackjawed paisan at DC when things go south week 1? Hopefully. If he starts Kaaya, while good for UM in the long run it would be the move a coach feeling no pressure on himself to win games immediately would make.

Now he could read the situation wrong, but its unlikely that Shalala is suddenly going to develop a keen interest in winning games and fire him if he fails with Kaaya under center.

did the last two redshirt freshmen who won the heismen have growing pains? redshirt kaaya and let him lead us.to the promise land comfortably

 

[Canes239]

Think Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson in Seattle. If one of the young QBs is ready, Coley and Golden won't hesitate to start him. If they're not ready, Heaps provides insurance. You don't want to be forced to play a young QB before he's ready. That could be a confidence-killer.

This move should tell you what Pete and I have been trying to say for months: Olsen has been struggling on and off the field. He is only a redshirt freshman and has a lot of time to turn it around. I've seen signs of growth in 7on7s. But the pressure is on him now from all sides.

Pretty lofty comparisons. I'd think more this guy

 

[Hurracanes]

The fact that we have to make a move like this in year 4 shows that we can't evaluate and develop QB's. Another fail.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

The fact that we have to make a move like this in year 4 shows that we can't evaluate and develop QB's. Another fail.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I liked Heap when he was a freshman but the kid has fallen off since then... I don't think it's a good sign as well... We are saying its an insurance policy, however the kid transferred because of pt... Heaps is coming here to start... What this tells me is that we have a glaring hole at qb... I'm not down on Olsen(he's young) and Kaaya and Rosier are true freshmen... We just missed out on our qb recruiting for the years of 2011 and 2012... Too be fair, I questioned their evaluations after the Tate Forcier tumors(and I liked him)...

 

[OldManCane]

I don't think you guys have seen Heaps play, if you had, you wouldn't be quite so negative.

The kid is a very good quarterback. Ignore his stats, the reason he had a lot of incompletions was because his receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Watch the video below. His receivers are literally the worst I've ever seen in college football.

The reason he had some picks was because Kansas was ALWAYS behind and he had to try to force the issue a bit. Also, there were times when the ball hit his receiver in the hands, popped up, and the other team picked it.

The reason he's not starting for Kansas this year is because Kansas has the worst offensive line in college football, and Heaps is a pocket passer. He had a defender in his face literally all year long. The guy they chose to go with is a dual threat type, he can create his own plays more than Heaps and he can use his feet better to escape pressure.

Heaps won't be asked to win games by himself at Miami. I predict he starts and has a huge season.

Take a look for yourselves. Heaps comes in after K State goes up by 21, and you tell me if he is a bad quarterback.

[video=youtube_share;OchAVfB61Dw]http://youtu.be/OchAVfB61Dw[/video]


Huge upgrade over Stephen Morris anyway.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

The last overall #1 QB out of high school who transferred here did pretty well (Brock Berlin). Happy to have him on board.

Brock had 2 seasons... He sucked and caused us a national championship in 03... That was a great team... I'm a huge Brock fan but he gave us one solid season and was bad his first season... Heaps only gives one year... We don't know how he would play and it's not like he got best out by 1st round pick and would have to compete with the an all-time passing leader at his dchool(Grossman and Leak)..,

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I don't think you guys have seen Heaps play, if you had, you wouldn't be quite so negative.

The kid is a very good quarterback. Ignore his stats, the reason he had a lot of incompletions was because his receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Watch the video below. His receivers are literally the worst I've ever seen in college football.

The reason he had some picks was because Kansas was ALWAYS behind and he had to try to force the issue a bit. Also, there were times when the ball hit his receiver in the hands, popped up, and the other team picked it.

The reason he's not starting for Kansas this year is because Kansas has the worst offensive line in college football, and Heaps is a pocket passer. He had a defender in his face literally all year long. The guy they chose to go with is a dual threat type, he can create his own plays more than Heaps and he can use his feet better to escape pressure.

Heaps won't be asked to win games by himself at Miami. I predict he starts and has a huge season.

Take a look for yourselves. Heaps comes in after K State goes up by 21, and you tell me if he is a bad quarterback.

[video=youtube_share;OchAVfB61Dw]http://youtu.be/OchAVfB61Dw[/video]


Huge upgrade over Stephen Morris anyway.

He isn't an upgrade over anyone... This is a troubling signing... I personally think the kid is hurt or something...

 

[Cane Dynasty]

All this means is that Dorito Golden knows his schit don't stink and the heat is on ****!

Heaps is a disaster at QB. He was horrible at BYU although admittedly I didn't follow him much after that. As far as the "it" factor, he aint got it.

What happens if Heaps is actually playing decently when RW is healthy enough to play again? QB controversy for DAYS, that's what.

Does this also mean that GASP!!!!!! Baby Jesus actually.......isn't?

Dumbest statement of the day

Really? How many games have you watched him play? I've seen him at least 6 times myself. 2 times live. He sucks.

Thanks for chiming in with your uninformed opinion though. I'm sure someone somewhere is smarter for it.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I don't think you guys have seen Heaps play, if you had, you wouldn't be quite so negative.

The kid is a very good quarterback. Ignore his stats, the reason he had a lot of incompletions was because his receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Watch the video below. His receivers are literally the worst I've ever seen in college football.

The reason he had some picks was because Kansas was ALWAYS behind and he had to try to force the issue a bit. Also, there were times when the ball hit his receiver in the hands, popped up, and the other team picked it.

The reason he's not starting for Kansas this year is because Kansas has the worst offensive line in college football, and Heaps is a pocket passer. He had a defender in his face literally all year long. The guy they chose to go with is a dual threat type, he can create his own plays more than Heaps and he can use his feet better to escape pressure.

Heaps won't be asked to win games by himself at Miami. I predict he starts and has a huge season.

Take a look for yourselves. Heaps comes in after K State goes up by 21, and you tell me if he is a bad quarterback.

[video=youtube_share;OchAVfB61Dw]http://youtu.be/OchAVfB61Dw[/video]


Huge upgrade over Stephen Morris anyway.

I've seen him play. He isn't that good.

Production wise I'd bet he and Morris are similar.

Different skill set. Similar production.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

All this means is that Dorito Golden knows his schit don't stink and the heat is on ****!

Heaps is a disaster at QB. He was horrible at BYU although admittedly I didn't follow him much after that. As far as the "it" factor, he aint got it.

What happens if Heaps is actually playing decently when RW is healthy enough to play again? QB controversy for DAYS, that's what.

He was horrible at BYU but broke every freshman qb record there?

Makes sense. BYU has never had any good QBs or anything.

They have obviously. But they rarely if ever played as frosh back in the Lavell Edwards era which was when all the good QB's were at BYU.

 

[Republicane]

I have a hard time believing that Heaps would be transferring anywhere that he wasn't given certain assurances that he would be a front runner for the starting job right away.

Personally I'd rather lose 6-7 games with Kaaya starting than win 7 or 8 with Heaps starting, and then likely taking a step back next year with Kaaya as goes through his growing pains. It would be different if Heaps was the kind of talent that could lead you to a BCS bowl, then I could see it. But if the difference in talent is negligible, why waste a year on a guy who won't be here next year over a guy who'll be here for the next 3?

The only benefit in my eyes to Heaps starting is it means that Golden feels his seat warming up and knows he has to produce results to keep his job. So he'll go with the "safe" bet at QB who might be able to win 7 or 8 games and then Golden can trot out his "trending up LULZ!" charts and graphs in the hopes of buying himself mre time. Could that also lead to him ****canning his slackjawed paisan at DC when things go south week 1? Hopefully. If he starts Kaaya, while good for UM in the long run it would be the move a coach feeling no pressure on himself to win games immediately would make.

Now he could read the situation wrong, but its unlikely that Shalala is suddenly going to develop a keen interest in winning games and fire him if he fails with Kaaya under center.

did the last two redshirt freshmen who won the heismen have growing pains? redshirt kaaya and let him lead us.to the promise land comfortably

You're absolutely right. We should ignore the decades of voluminous evidence to the contrary and just expect Kaaya to perform at the same level of two Heisman trophy winning outliers simply because he redshirted like they did. I just hope the rest of college football doesn't realize it's just that simple. Why I bet Manziel ran a 5.6 before he redshirted and used that year to develop dynamic scrambling and playmaking ability. And Winston, surely he didn't possess a shred of that ridiculous pinpoint accuracy before he shirted.

I can only imagine the utter train wrecks those two would have been as true freshman had they not received that magical redshirt. I wonder if you asked Sumlin and Fisher, knowing what they know now, would they rather have had Manziel and Winston for three years, having never redshirted, or only two years with them receiving a redshirt, what they'd choose.

 

[Rdcane]

Nice

 

[OldManCane]

I don't think you guys have seen Heaps play, if you had, you wouldn't be quite so negative.

The kid is a very good quarterback. Ignore his stats, the reason he had a lot of incompletions was because his receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Watch the video below. His receivers are literally the worst I've ever seen in college football.

The reason he had some picks was because Kansas was ALWAYS behind and he had to try to force the issue a bit. Also, there were times when the ball hit his receiver in the hands, popped up, and the other team picked it.

The reason he's not starting for Kansas this year is because Kansas has the worst offensive line in college football, and Heaps is a pocket passer. He had a defender in his face literally all year long. The guy they chose to go with is a dual threat type, he can create his own plays more than Heaps and he can use his feet better to escape pressure.

Heaps won't be asked to win games by himself at Miami. I predict he starts and has a huge season.

Take a look for yourselves. Heaps comes in after K State goes up by 21, and you tell me if he is a bad quarterback.

[video=youtube_share;OchAVfB61Dw]http://youtu.be/OchAVfB61Dw[/video]


Huge upgrade over Stephen Morris anyway.

I've seen him play. He isn't that good.

Production wise I'd bet he and Morris are similar.

Different skill set. Similar production.

You said yourself you haven't seen him play since he was at BYU. He's a good QB, and he'll win a lot of games for Miami next year. We're lucky to have him.

 

[OldhamA]

I don't think you guys have seen Heaps play, if you had, you wouldn't be quite so negative.

The kid is a very good quarterback. Ignore his stats, the reason he had a lot of incompletions was because his receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Watch the video below. His receivers are literally the worst I've ever seen in college football.

The reason he had some picks was because Kansas was ALWAYS behind and he had to try to force the issue a bit. Also, there were times when the ball hit his receiver in the hands, popped up, and the other team picked it.

The reason he's not starting for Kansas this year is because Kansas has the worst offensive line in college football, and Heaps is a pocket passer. He had a defender in his face literally all year long. The guy they chose to go with is a dual threat type, he can create his own plays more than Heaps and he can use his feet better to escape pressure.

Heaps won't be asked to win games by himself at Miami. I predict he starts and has a huge season.

Take a look for yourselves. Heaps comes in after K State goes up by 21, and you tell me if he is a bad quarterback.

[video=youtube_share;OchAVfB61Dw]http://youtu.be/OchAVfB61Dw[/video]


Huge upgrade over Stephen Morris anyway.

I've seen him play. He isn't that good.

Production wise I'd bet he and Morris are similar.

Different skill set. Similar production.

You said yourself you haven't seen him play since he was at BYU. He's a good QB, and he'll win a lot of games for Miami next year. We're lucky to have him.

Looks good in that video - has zero help from the rest of his team.

Tries to force things at the end and gets burned.

Don't see the harm in adding him to the Canes roster. If Kaaya and Olsen are so good they'll beat him out.

 

[TheMatador]

No idea how anyone would complain about this addition...in all honesty I'd be willing to bet the staff views him as the "bridge" that gets us from game 1 to whatever game Ryan Williams is ready.

Look at him as a long middle reliever.

Probably much more natural talent than Williams. Plus he's got a lot more game experience than anybody we have. That's huge. I can't believe people expect Kaaya to come in and be a world-beater. Very unlikely.