Luther Campbell is an idiot

[Stats02]

Real development happens with live reps. Practice is not the same as the live bullets of game experience.

They only played 4 WRs last year. Horton was WR 4 with only 13 catches. We had Restrepo and George returning this year. That's 3 WRs with experience and they went and got Brown.

What are they going to do next year? Is Mario going to trust that his young WRs will be ready to contribute at a high level by first game of the season against ND? I can tell you. Mario is going to the portal because he won't put his faith in inexperienced players if he doesn't have to. He's not going in the spring and the fall camp without proven game experience at WR.

That's why I call it a failure and a betrayal. He put all that effort to get these top talented WRs on the team, but only 1 will return in 2025 with any significant experience and he wasn't recruitedby Mario. That's doing the players and the team a disservice.

I thought B Smith was WR 4 last year. Restrepo, George, and Young were 1,2, and 3. Horton did get more playing time last year than any of our young WR's have so far this year. Either way, Horton did not look very good last year, IMO. Some may disagree, and that's ok.

I wouldn't call it a failure and betrayal. Yes, it's a little discouraging that some of the young pups haven't contributed a little more, but I'm not writing any of them off just yet. I also understand that WR group isn't a position that rotates. They only come in when the game is out of hand, or injuries. The fact that Ray Ray, Carr, Trader, etc..haven't got much playing time is not a big deal to me. Now, if by the start of next season we aren't hearing any positive things about the returning receiver group, then I would say it's starting to look like a failure with the last 2 WR recruiting classes.

 

[Torocane]

There was no transfer porta back then. It used to be next man up as the stsrter for the next season. Not any more. You have D'Money and Pete already talking adding WRs from the portal. I'm getting sick of the portal talk to be honest. Every year its, " We don't have experience at position XYZ." "We need to hit the portal for experienced players."

When do coaches take responsibility for development? When do they choose talent over experience from the portal? Those without experience are the coaches fault. They created the problem. Given the option, they are choosing the portal over inexperienced players with talent, that they recruited. Several players could have gained experience for bigger roles next season with playing time this season.

Mario is risk adverse. He'll go to the portal rather than relying on inexperienced talented players If he doesn't have to. If Mario got 2 top CBs out of the portal this year, Frederique would have never seen the field in 2024. Because the CB room was low on bodies and weak, he got the opportunity to show his talent in games and has flourished.

What happened to the top talent Mario recruited?

Several of the portal transfers haven't lived up to expectations. Baron has been a bust in my opinion. Brown has been underwhelming at times. They took snaps from younger players that could be developing.

It's looking more like the NFL in a bad way. The transfers are getting big money, so they're seeing the field even when they mess up. Just like a highly paid NFL free agent. They paid him, so he plays. Baron should have been benched 4 games ago. He took snaps from Mesidor and Bryant. ****, you could include the DTs as Moten and Clark are seeing more snaps now that Mesidor is back a DE and Baron on the bench.

We have 4 historically productive WR on top of the depth chart and have been in close competitive games all year...when are the young guys getting the reps??
Out all the **** to complain about while having the best offense in the country.

 

[gatorsSUCK!]

He's crying because Ray Ray isn't getting any snaps. That's on Ray Ray, he isn't showing anything when he gets the ball in his hands. As well as there are better players ahead of him. If he transfers then it is what it is. I think Malachi Toney will end up being what everyone thought Ray Ray was suppose to be.

Against UF Ray Ray dropped a TD on the post up the seam. Was a perfect pass. Plus he Just runs into people on PR.

 

[Coach Macho]

Real development happens with live reps. Practice is not the same as the live bullets of game experience.

They only played 4 WRs last year. Horton was WR 4 with only 13 catches. We had Restrepo and George returning this year. That's 3 WRs with experience and they went and got Brown.

What are they going to do next year? Is Mario going to trust that his young WRs will be ready to contribute at a high level by first game of the season against ND? I can tell you. Mario is going to the portal because he won't put his faith in inexperienced players if he doesn't have to. He's not going in the spring and the fall camp without proven game experience at WR.

That's why I call it a failure and a betrayal. He put all that effort to get these top talented WRs on the team, but only 1 will return in 2025 with any significant experience and he wasn't recruitedby Mario. That's doing the players and the team a disservice.

Unfortunately we've been in some dog fights. You wanna put kids like Ray-Ray in the game during those situations, or the kids who are proven?

 

[JamesQuall]

Unfortunately we've been in some dog fights. You wanna put kids like Ray-Ray in the game during those situations, or the kids who are proven?

Nope. Could you imagine Cam throwing to anyone other than X on that 4th down conversion vs VT?

 

[Coach Macho]

It's a betrayal by the coaches not developing them to contribute in 2025. Should they stick around while transfers play in front of them and they see little playing time for yet another year? You can't have it both ways. Talented players aren't going to stick.

Develop them and play them or they will leave. In that case why recruit them in the 1st place. Truth is, we've used the portal as much as FSU. We have high school recruited talent on the roster. FSU doesn't. That's the difference.

They are being developed... at practice. Who do you want them to play in front of? We've been in a ton of competitive games where we've had to rely on experience.

Football is not a charity case.
And none of us know WTF goes on within the Hecht to keep these kids from seeing the field.

 

[Coach Macho]

Nope. Could you imagine Cam throwing to anyone other than X on that 4th down conversion vs VT?

Nobody else makes that catch... and we lose the game. Lol

 

[MedleyCane]

Uncle Luke is a ******* moron and has been a ******* moron for a very long time.

And is also a racist.
He's probably not happy that Restrepo is killing it over one of his players.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

I understand your concerns, but who is to say that some of our younger receivers aren't currently developing as the season is going on right now. Perhaps they still aren't good enough to replace the starters, which all happen to be very good.

Horton was not one of our top receivers last year. He rarely played and had a total of 13 receptions last year. I remember some plays where he looked lost out there and very uncomfortable running some patterns. Talk about a player who needed to develop. Now, he is one of our best route runners and looks natural out there.

If we go into next season and none of our WR recruits over the last 2-3 years show any improvement, then I might have some concerns with Beard.

Horton had more receptions in 2024 (13) than all of the 2025 WR room combined not named Brown, Restrepo, or George.

You completely miss the point. Out of the entire WR room we'll have Horton returning. Maybe Brown, but doubtful. No one else is getting reps.

So, I'll bet dollars to donuts they go to the portal for WRs. Maybe your cool with that. I'm not. All this talent we brag about signing and we don't prepare them. I don't want to hear this BS about practice. You have to know what you have for next year. They need to be groomed. Every position group except QB and WR has played young players getting them experience for next year. Why is WR the exception 2 years in a row?

This sh*t makes no sense. I'll say it again. For the Dolphins, Tyrique Hii doesn't play every down. Waddle doesn't play every down. Two of the best WR in the NFL don't play every down nor does any WR, yet that's what we do. Out of 15 WRs, 4 play and likely only 1 will return next year with experience. At the end of the season, people are going to be talking about hitting the portal for WRs do to the lack of experience on the roster. The CIS podcasters have already started.

In 3 years, ZERO Mario high school WR recruits have received any significant playing time. This is NOT how it's supposed to work. Why are these guys sitting on the bench only to have a bunch of portal WRs come in next year in front of them? They might as well went to another school where they play sooner and have the experience that everyone covets in the portal.

As I said in previous posts, in 2025, they're either trotting out a bunch of inexperienced WRs, or they're bringing in transfer portal WRs to play in front of them. Both are wrong in my opinion.

 

[Stats02]

Horton had more receptions in 2024 (13) than all of the 2025 WR room combined not named Brown, Restrepo, or George.

You completely miss the point. Out of the entire WR room we'll have Horton returning. Maybe Brown, but doubtful. No one else is getting reps.

So, I'll bet dollars to donuts they go to the portal for WRs. Maybe your cool with that. I'm not. All this talent we brag about signing and we don't prepare them. I don't want to hear this BS about practice. You have to know what you have for next year. They need to be groomed. Every position group except QB and WR has played young players getting them experience for next year. Why is WR the exception 2 years in a row?

This sh*t makes no sense. I'll say it again. For the Dolphins, Tyrique Hii doesn't play every down. Waddle doesn't play every down. Two of the best WR in the NFL don't play every down nor does any WR, yet that's what we do. Out of 15 WRs, 4 play and likely only 1 will return next year with experience. At the end of the season, people are going to be talking about hitting the portal for WRs do to the lack of experience on the roster. The CIS podcasters have already started.

In 3 years, ZERO Mario high school WR recruits have received any significant playing time. This is NOT how it's supposed to work. Why are these guys sitting on the bench only to have a bunch of portal WRs come in next year in front of them? They might as well went to another school where they play sooner and have the experience that everyone covets in the portal.

As I said in previous posts, in 2025, they're either trotting out a bunch of inexperienced WRs, or they're bringing in transfer portal WRs to play in front of them. Both are wrong in my opinion.

Maybe I did miss your point. For the record, I do have some concerns with the current 2nd and 3rd string receivers. I'm not overly optimistic about them. I don't see the game changers in those groups. I hope 1-2 emerge as everyday starters. However, I am willing to see their progress over the next year. I didn't expect them to get any playing time over this current group we have. I actually didn't think Horton would be this good this year, but look at his progression.

We probably do go to the portal for a WR. Even if we were confident in the returning group, I'm sure we will look to the portal. Nothing wrong with that. I've come to accept we will look to the portal to upgrade positions, no matter how solid those positions might be.

For the WR group, we might have to go the portal out of necessity instead of just upgrade. Hopefully, that is not the case.

As for the point about the Dolphins, I could care less about what NFL teams do with their receivers. I don't think it relates at all with what college's do at the WR position. College football does not rotate receivers like the NFL. I would need to know why Waddle and Hill are coming off the field. I don't think it's because the receivers replacing Waddle and Hill are actually better than them. NFL also runs so many more exotic and advanced packages. At the NFL level, every player is a threat.

 

[DTP]

Is there any school in the country playing their 5th, 6th and 7th wide receivers in a game that’s not a blowout?

Some of you guys are way overrating game reps as some kind of fast track for development. Do you really think getting a handful of meaningless reps is going to make a difference in how ready a guy will be to play next season?

You guys are too used to watching a loser. We are trying to win a championship THIS year. We’re not trying to build towards having a better season NEXT year. Teams that suck and have nothing to play for go all in on playing underclassmen because they have nothing to play for today. After the season, the staff will evaluate thei returning players (not sure why anyone thinks Brown is a lock to leave for the draft) and decide if they want to bring in another transfer or proceed with who they have. I can assure you, getting a handful of garbage time snaps isn’t going to factor into that decision.

 

[TriStarCane]

There is no sugar coating this. Yall probably aren’t ready for the truth but it’s undeniable:

We have the lowest IQ fans per capita in the country.

 

[TheEye]

Siap

 

[TrumpyCane]

Horton had more receptions in 2024 (13) than all of the 2025 WR room combined not named Brown, Restrepo, or George.

You completely miss the point. Out of the entire WR room we'll have Horton returning. Maybe Brown, but doubtful. No one else is getting reps.

So, I'll bet dollars to donuts they go to the portal for WRs. Maybe your cool with that. I'm not. All this talent we brag about signing and we don't prepare them. I don't want to hear this BS about practice. You have to know what you have for next year. They need to be groomed. Every position group except QB and WR has played young players getting them experience for next year. Why is WR the exception 2 years in a row?

This sh*t makes no sense. I'll say it again. For the Dolphins, Tyrique Hii doesn't play every down. Waddle doesn't play every down. Two of the best WR in the NFL don't play every down nor does any WR, yet that's what we do. Out of 15 WRs, 4 play and likely only 1 will return next year with experience. At the end of the season, people are going to be talking about hitting the portal for WRs do to the lack of experience on the roster. The CIS podcasters have already started.

In 3 years, ZERO Mario high school WR recruits have received any significant playing time. This is NOT how it's supposed to work. Why are these guys sitting on the bench only to have a bunch of portal WRs come in next year in front of them? They might as well went to another school where they play sooner and have the experience that everyone covets in the portal.

As I said in previous posts, in 2025, they're either trotting out a bunch of inexperienced WRs, or they're bringing in transfer portal WRs to play in front of them. Both are wrong in my opinion.

Dolphins WRs

Hill 49 receptions
Waddle 41


Washington 8
Beckham 7
Eskridge 4
Dubose 2
Chosen 2



Ohio State

Smith 52
Egbuka 56
Tate 35


Innis 12
Rodgers 5
Ballard 2
Adolph 1


Texas

Bond 32
Golden 36
Moore 20
Bolden 19



Cook 8
Nibblet 3



Ole Miss

Harris 60
Lee 46
Watkins 37
Wells 27




Davis 5
Williams 3
White 2
Aka 2
Burnett 1



TrumpyCane wants to know if you sense a pattern?

 

[Gransapo]

These are the reception leaders for the 2000 and 2001 Canes teams. Take a good look where Andre Johnson is in 2000 and where he is in 2001. Who gives a **** about this fake controversy. If any WR doesn’t like - bye.

 

[Torocane]

Real development happens with live reps. Practice is not the same as the live bullets of game experience.

They only played 4 WRs last year. Horton was WR 4 with only 13 catches. We had Restrepo and George returning this year. That's 3 WRs with experience and they went and got Brown.

What are they going to do next year? Is Mario going to trust that his young WRs will be ready to contribute at a high level by first game of the season against ND? I can tell you. Mario is going to the portal because he won't put his faith in inexperienced players if he doesn't have to. He's not going in the spring and the fall camp without proven game experience at WR.

That's why I call it a failure and a betrayal. He put all that effort to get these top talented WRs on the team, but only 1 will return in 2025 with any significant experience and he wasn't recruitedby Mario. That's doing the players and the team a disservice.

How many reps do you think they should have this year?
Not how many catches but how many reps is the correct number?

 

[Stats02]

Dolphins WRs

Hill 49 receptions
Waddle 41


Washington 8
Beckham 7
Eskridge 4
Dubose 2
Chosen 2



Ohio State

Smith 52
Egbuka 56
Tate 35


Innis 12
Rodgers 5
Ballard 2
Adolph 1


Texas

Bond 32
Golden 36
Moore 20
Bolden 19



Cook 8
Nibblet 3



Ole Miss

Harris 60
Lee 46
Watkins 37
Wells 27




Davis 5
Williams 3
White 2
Aka 2
Burnett 1



TrumpyCane wants to know if you sense a pattern?

Stop it with all these facts and information. This can't be true. Didn't you know that Miami is the only school that has not developed receivers and refuses to rotate their receivers.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

Maybe I did miss your point. For the record, I do have some concerns with the current 2nd and 3rd string receivers. I'm not overly optimistic about them. I don't see the game changers in those groups. I hope 1-2 emerge as everyday starters. However, I am willing to see their progress over the next year. I didn't expect them to get any playing time over this current group we have. I actually didn't think Horton would be this good this year, but look at his progression.

We probably do go to the portal for a WR. Even if we were confident in the returning group, I'm sure we will look to the portal. Nothing wrong with that. I've come to accept we will look to the portal to upgrade positions, no matter how solid those positions might be.

For the WR group, we might have to go the portal out of necessity instead of just upgrade. Hopefully, that is not the case.

As for the point about the Dolphins, I could care less about what NFL teams do with their receivers. I don't think it relates at all with what college's do at the WR position. College football does not rotate receivers like the NFL. I would need to know why Waddle and Hill are coming off the field. I don't think it's because the receivers replacing Waddle and Hill are actually better than them. NFL also runs so many more exotic and advanced packages. At the NFL level, every player is a threat.

Do you attend practices? We don't know anything beyond our 1st team. All the Podcaster that attended spring and fall practices said JoJo is next level and should see the field this year. Thst didn't happen. I thought Shemar Kirk was outstanding in the Spring game. No sighting from him or any other WRs.

We don't know where these guys stand in their development. I don't think they're not playing due to development. It's my opinion that the coaches are all in with just 4 WRs thst Cam has the most connection with. He hasn't had games reps with anyone else. How can you play Jojo & company when they don't have game reps with Cam. They certainly aren't going to do it with the ACC and CFP on the line. I think it is a gross failure not integrating them into the offense.

It really should be no surprise as Mario went with veterans instead of younger talent at nearly every position. Frederique emerged out of necessity of a limited CB room. He was able to display his his skills.

I would argue that if Mario brought in 2 top high priced CBs from the portal, Frederique would have been pushed down the depth chart. He would be wowing us on the 2nd and 3rd strings, but they wouldn't risk putting him in critical game situations. Out of need, he was able to showcase his abilities and gain the coaches trust as he is now our best DB.

 

[Torocane]

Do you attend practices? We don't know anything beyond our 1st team. All the Podcaster that attended spring and fall practices said JoJo is next level and should see the field this year. Thst didn't happen. I thought Shemar Kirk was outstanding in the Spring game. No sighting from him or any other WRs.

We don't know where these guys stand in their development. I don't think they're not playing due to development. It's my opinion that the coaches are all in with just 4 WRs thst Cam has the most connection with. He hasn't had games reps with anyone else. How can you play Jojo & company when they don't have game reps with Cam. They certainly aren't going to do it with the ACC and CFP on the line. I think it is a gross failure not integrating them into the offense.

It really should be no surprise as Mario went with veterans instead of younger talent at nearly every position. Frederique emerged out of necessity of a limited CB room. He was able to display his his skills.

I would argue that if Mario brought in 2 top high priced CBs from the portal, Frederique would have been pushed down the depth chart. He would be wowing us on the 2nd and 3rd strings, but they wouldn't risk putting him in critical game situations. Out of need, he was able to showcase his abilities and gain the coaches trust as he is now our best DB.

A couple of honest questions

Are you claiming the young receivers haven't gotten any reps at all during the season??

How many reps should they have?

Are you claiming Mario doesn't play young players?....Bain, CC, Cooper, Wes, Fletcher etc

 

[Number1CanesFan]

Dolphins WRs

Hill 49 receptions
Waddle 41


Washington 8
Beckham 7
Eskridge 4
Dubose 2
Chosen 2



Ohio State

Smith 52
Egbuka 56
Tate 35


Innis 12
Rodgers 5
Ballard 2
Adolph 1


Texas

Bond 32
Golden 36
Moore 20
Bolden 19



Cook 8
Nibblet 3



Ole Miss

Harris 60
Lee 46
Watkins 37
Wells 27




Davis 5
Williams 3
White 2
Aka 2
Burnett 1



TrumpyCane wants to know if you sense a pattern?

As I said, they don't play every down.

My biggest point is we will end up like FSU. A WR room with no experience. Mario will will bring in portal WR with experience and the insanity will continue.

I argue that recruited high school talent will leave if transfers come in. If don't provide game experience, then bring in experienced players to start in front of them, young talent isn't going to stick around and your WR will be hollow. Transfer starters with nothing behind them. If your transfers don't pan out, you're FSU 2.9.

It's time to wind down the portal. Take 5 or less, not 10-15. The fact is Maio has used the portal as much as Norvell. He's going to wind up in the same place if he's not careful. Norvell doesn't have high school talent. Mario can lose his high school recruited talent with too many transfers. Thus, in the same place as Norvell.

The young players have been patient. They are not going to sit another year of the same thing.