Luther Campbell is an idiot

Let’s be real there haven’t been talented WR “classes”. The 2023 class had Robbie Washington who has been moved to DB and Ray Ray who was a high school running back. And nobody else.
Maybe im misreading this, but chance Robinson, Ny carr, and JT don't exist?

2022 had Horton and CY

Moore, Toney, and daylyn in 2025.

Can't tell if your point was just 2023 or all classss.

While they lack a J. Smith, they're good enough to compete imo. I mean just look what a George, Horton, and restrepo are doing lol.

If you're point is we need a bonfide top 10 guy, I agree. I also think we have to get some portal guys that aren't of the likes of Shemar kirk
 
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Maybe im misreading this, but chance Robinson, Ny carr, and JT don't exist?

2022 had Horton and CY

Can't tell if your point was just 2023 or all classss.
My point was that we haven’t signed multiple talented WR classes. We technically got 1 receiver from the 2022 class and he plays a ton. We have one receiver from the 2023 class and he only returns punts. The other guy has changed positions and the talented 2024 class is true freshmen who probably shouldn’t be playing outside of mop up duty in blowouts.

It’s not like we have all these guys who are just sitting around, wasting away on the bench while we only play our top four.
 
My point was that we haven’t signed multiple talented WR classes. We technically got 1 receiver from the 2022 class and he plays a ton. We have one receiver from the 2023 class and he only returns punts. The other guy has changed positions and the talented 2024 class is true freshmen who probably shouldn’t be playing outside of mop up duty in blowouts.

It’s not like we have all these guys who are just sitting around, wasting away on the bench while we only play our top four.
Got it. I misread the point you were trying to make since it didn't quote anything.

There's zero reason why any of our back up wrs (regardless of their ability) should get any snaps this year (more than what they have gotten) due to all the close games.

You'd have more opportunities to develop what guys we do have if our team could play 4 qtrs.

We gonna put robby in the game in the late 4th when we're finally up so he can run block? Yeah....uncle luke...those are real meaningful snaps.

Robby has underachieved almost every snap he's played this year. ST and the Florida game included.
 
Real development happens with live reps. Practice is not the same as the live bullets of game experience.

They only played 4 WRs last year. Horton was WR 4 with only 13 catches. We had Restrepo and George returning this year. That's 3 WRs with experience and they went and got Brown.

What are they going to do next year? Is Mario going to trust that his young WRs will be ready to contribute at a high level by first game of the season against ND? I can tell you. Mario is going to the portal because he won't put his faith in inexperienced players if he doesn't have to. He's not going in the spring and the fall camp without proven game experience at WR.

That's why I call it a failure and a betrayal. He put all that effort to get these top talented WRs on the team, but only 1 will return in 2025 with any significant experience and he wasn't recruitedby Mario. That's doing the players and the team a disservice.
"Failure and betrayal"....wow you are ridiculously, laughably dramatic.
 
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Yes, Luke's comment was inaccurate and just plain wrong to publicly attack coach Beard. It comes off as just grievances for not playing Ray Ray. He should not have posted on Twitter/X. However, I think people should watch the Canesville podcast instead of just dismissing his post on X formerly Twitter as crazy disgruntled Luke.

On the Canesville podcast, Luke explains that outside of the QB room, the WR room is the ONLY position group that backups haven't played any significant game reps. So, his position is either Mario is telling Beard not to play backups or Beard is making that decision on his own or perhaps Dawson is telling him not to rotate WRs. Luke hedges that Mario would NOT put his thumb on WR coach Beard, but allow all the other position groups to rotate as those coaches see fit. He wouldn't single out Beard, but allow the other position coaches to substitute .freely. Therefore, he points his finger at Beard.

Luke says that player development is not just about practice. He said game reps are critical to player development. If you're not getting players game reps, they're not fully developing.

Another point Luke made is that based on the lack of game reps, we will have an inexperienced WR room in 2025 not knowing who will emerge. So, they're either going to play inexperienced players at the WR position or they're going to bring in transfers with experience to play in front of them.

I get Luke's point in the podcast. There are 13 players in the WR room. Only 4 play any meaningful snaps. If none of those other 9 WRs are ready to contribute, then whose fault is that? So, if we have an injury to any combination of Restrepo, George, Brown, or Horton, then we'll get the other WRs ready to play? It's a failure not having backups ready to contribute at any given moment. The same thing goes for QB, which we haven't provided any meaningful game reps to keep them ready.

At this point, none of the 9 backup WRs are going to get any game reps barring injury. We'll go into the 2025 season with only 1 experienced WR in Horton if Brown moves on. So, Mario is either going to play inexperienced WRs against ND and FL or he's going to hit the transfer portal for experienced WRs to play in front of this year's backups.

So, when does the talented WR classes see the field? If anyone says they'll work them in with the transfers next year, I'd argue why? Inexperienced WRs aren't playing this year, why would they play next year? The expectations for team next year won't be any different from this year. If anything, the expectations will be greater. If they integrate inexperienced WRs next year, why aren't they doing this year? Again, the expectations for the team aren't going to change. If you say the backup WRs aren't ready this year, but will be ready next year, then whose fault is that? That is the reason why Luke attacked Beard. There are no backup WRs ready to play this year in that entire WR room. That is a coaching failure or you're simply choosing not to play capable backups in any meaningful snaps, if even to just give the starters a break to keep fresh legs.

For those that argue Horton put in work to make himself a bigger contributor this year I would point out that Horton got significant game reps last year, which is why they let Colby Young walk. Horton played a lot and had more catches last year than the entire backup WRs have this year. They knew what Horton would project into because they saw it in the games he played in. That is my point.

At the end of this season, we'll know nothing about 90% of our WR room because they'll have little to no game experience. That's 3 years of WR recruiting going into year 4, and 1 WR will have experience. That's 3 years of WR recruiting that is going to be "portaled over" in year 4. How is that a sell to WR recruits? The decisions Mario, Dawson, and Beard have made this year regarding the WR room will have consequences next year.
Yet somehow pretty much all the other teams, including top teams, seem to make it work. As has been shown a number of times, our use of WR after the top 4 is pretty much on par with everyone else's.
 
What is this BS!!! Nobody is defending Luke. The facts are what they are. We'll have only 1 WR in the 2025 WR room with experience out of 3 recruiting classes. That's FACT and nothing to do with Luke.

Getting players game reps is about having ready backups do to injury and development for 2025. Every position group except QB and WR has got their backups game reps. I'm not even talking about playing backups when the game is in the balance. We've had big leads where we don't play the backup QB or backup WRs. In the one or two times I can remember that the backup QB and WRs played, we just ran the ball to bleed out the clock. Those are development opportunities.


TrumpyCane already showed you multiple teams that use 4 receivers yet you try to argue receivers with 2/3 catches shows they are being rotated in

You were wrong, take the L and move on
 
You're completely wrong. There's only 3 possibilities. 1) They inexperienced WRs become starters. 2) They bring in experienced transfers as starters. 3) The bring in experienced transfers and sell the current WR room that they're going to play more WRs in 2025. Something they didn't do in 2023 or 2024.

Mario's had 3 classes and only 1 WR recruit will be in the 2025 WR room with experience. I'll bet dollars to donuts he portals over them with at least 2. So, Horton, 2 portal WRs, and likely JoJo will play.

There 's no other possibilities. You're welcome

So, sell potential WR recruits that only 2 WR recruits in 4 years have any significant playing time. Let's be clear. Game reps are a part of development.
How many reps should the young habe this year?

You keep avoiding the question on how many reps they should have... I think I know why are avoiding it.

Also you conveniently leave out the most possible scenario.

We currently only have ONE portal WR playing.

Let's say we portal in just ONE WR next year

We play FOUR WRs, so that would like..Horton, Portal guy, Young guy, Young guy....more than acceptable under you BS made up scenarios.

Under you BS logic there would be no true freshman WRs playing in college since they don't have experience

I'm not going around and around with you anymore. All you do is regurgitate the same BS.

Lastly any Canes fan that advocates that all the young players in a position group should "all transfer at once"....all while we are have the best offense in the country that is setting records distributing the ball in the passing game.....should have their head examined.

Enjoy your day.
 
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TrumpyCane already showed you multiple teams that use 4 receivers yet you try to argue receivers with 2/3 catches shows they are being rotated in

You were wrong, take the L and move on
It's like talking to.a wall....except the bricks in this wall are made with the Dumbest MF that ever lived
 
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"Failure and betrayal"....wow you are ridiculously, laughably dramatic.
It's such an amazingly infuriating thing to say given how we have performed on offense this year. Like I said to him.....with "fans" like this who needs enemies.
 
Y'all ninjaz still don't remember that pzzy chit Luke pulled off during the Randy Shannon Al Golden era.
 
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You really can't make his logic up.

Three NFL caliber WRs won't be a "sell" now.

LOL

We brought in 3, count them THREE, top 300 players at WR last year already. The proof is already in the pudding.

This account has to be Luther.
Can't be, this guy can at least spell
 
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