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Udynasty said:
Ray Ray has had opportunities but he has not done much with them. He had a touchdown that hit him right between the numbers and he dropped it. Ward didn't look for him since. This is about winning games and trust and if QB1 can't trust you and someone else makes the plays they will continue getting targets and Ray Ray won't simple as that.. cream rises to the top.
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This isn't only about Ray Ray. Going into year 4 of 3 prior recruiting classes, we'll have only 1 WR in the 2025 WR room with experience. That's the issue.
 
Hegemon said:
You're insufferable.
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Good. In 2025, we'll have only 1 WR out of 3 recruiting classes with experience. If Mario portal over these guys in 2025 with experienced transfers, I expect an exodus. How do you sell this to recruits? 3 years of recruiting and only 1 guy has experience. So, we brought in transfers from the portal and those inexperienced WRs can sit another year where we'll rinse and repeat the inexperience issue in 2026. By all means, join our WR room because we need you.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Good. In 2025, we'll have only 1 WR out of 3 recruiting classes with experience. If Mario portal over these guys in 2025 with experienced transfers, I expect an exodus. How do you sell this to recruits? 3 years of recruiting and only 1 guy has experience. So, we brought in transfers from the portal and those inexperienced WRs can sit another year where we'll rinse and repeat the inexperience issue in 2026. By all means, join our WR room because we need you.
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You make breathtaking levels of assumptions.

Breathtaking.

If none of this comes to pass, it won't, no APB on Earth will be able to find you.
 
Torocane said:
Again....how many reps do you think the young receivers should have this year?
Give us a number.

The amount of assumptions you are making about what will or won't happen next year is asinine.
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You're completely wrong. There's only 3 possibilities. 1) They inexperienced WRs become starters. 2) They bring in experienced transfers as starters. 3) The bring in experienced transfers and sell the current WR room that they're going to play more WRs in 2025. Something they didn't do in 2023 or 2024.

Mario's had 3 classes and only 1 WR recruit will be in the 2025 WR room with experience. I'll bet dollars to donuts he portals over them with at least 2. So, Horton, 2 portal WRs, and likely JoJo will play.

There 's no other possibilities. You're welcome

So, sell potential WR recruits that only 2 WR recruits in 4 years have any significant playing time. Let's be clear. Game reps are a part of development.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
Yes, Luke's comment was inaccurate and just plain wrong to publicly attack coach Beard. It comes off as just grievances for not playing Ray Ray. He should not have posted on Twitter/X. However, I think people should watch the Canesville podcast instead of just dismissing his post on X formerly Twitter as crazy disgruntled Luke.

On the Canesville podcast, Luke explains that outside of the QB room, the WR room is the ONLY position group that backups haven't played any significant game reps. So, his position is either Mario is telling Beard not to play backups or Beard is making that decision on his own or perhaps Dawson is telling him not to rotate WRs. Luke hedges that Mario would NOT put his thumb on WR coach Beard, but allow all the other position groups to rotate as those coaches see fit. He wouldn't single out Beard, but allow the other position coaches to substitute .freely. Therefore, he points his finger at Beard.

Luke says that player development is not just about practice. He said game reps are critical to player development. If you're not getting players game reps, they're not fully developing.

Another point Luke made is that based on the lack of game reps, we will have an inexperienced WR room in 2025 not knowing who will emerge. So, they're either going to play inexperienced players at the WR position or they're going to bring in transfers with experience to play in front of them.

I get Luke's point in the podcast. There are 13 players in the WR room. Only 4 play any meaningful snaps. If none of those other 9 WRs are ready to contribute, then whose fault is that? So, if we have an injury to any combination of Restrepo, George, Brown, or Horton, then we'll get the other WRs ready to play? It's a failure not having backups ready to contribute at any given moment. The same thing goes for QB, which we haven't provided any meaningful game reps to keep them ready.

At this point, none of the 9 backup WRs are going to get any game reps barring injury. We'll go into the 2025 season with only 1 experienced WR in Horton if Brown moves on. So, Mario is either going to play inexperienced WRs against ND and FL or he's going to hit the transfer portal for experienced WRs to play in front of this year's backups.

So, when does the talented WR classes see the field? If anyone says they'll work them in with the transfers next year, I'd argue why? Inexperienced WRs aren't playing this year, why would they play next year? The expectations for team next year won't be any different from this year. If anything, the expectations will be greater. If they integrate inexperienced WRs next year, why aren't they doing this year? Again, the expectations for the team aren't going to change. If you say the backup WRs aren't ready this year, but will be ready next year, then whose fault is that? That is the reason why Luke attacked Beard. There are no backup WRs ready to play this year in that entire WR room. That is a coaching failure or you're simply choosing not to play capable backups in any meaningful snaps, if even to just give the starters a break to keep fresh legs.

For those that argue Horton put in work to make himself a bigger contributor this year I would point out that Horton got significant game reps last year, which is why they let Colby Young walk. Horton played a lot and had more catches last year than the entire backup WRs have this year. They knew what Horton would project into because they saw it in the games he played in. That is my point.

At the end of this season, we'll know nothing about 90% of our WR room because they'll have little to no game experience. That's 3 years of WR recruiting going into year 4, and 1 WR will have experience. That's 3 years of WR recruiting that is going to be "portaled over" in year 4. How is that a sell to WR recruits? The decisions Mario, Dawson, and Beard have made this year regarding the WR room will have consequences next year.
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How do I put this... no. Absolutely no, no, never ever, not happening, absolutely no chance.

And we can play this game for many other positions on this team where freshmen haven't received meaningful snaps, e.g. the D-Line.

But to twist this into a problem, because FRESHMEN don't see meaningful playing time behind THREE NFL-TALENTED RECEIVERS is completely and utterly absurd.

And wtf do you mean "they aren't ready to play"? How do you know that? Don't even say "they don't play, therefore, they aren't ready", because that's complete bull****. If people actually mean that, they never participated in a mfing sport.

I swear, this fanbase... Some even side with a racist HS coach who has nothing better to do than **** on a 10-1 football team and the WR coach that has demonstrated great ability to develop receivers by elevating those three aforementioned NFL-TALENTED players, with one of them being THE ALL-TIME-RECEIVER.

And wtf does Campbell know about player development? He's a ******* musician.

This is the best season we've enjoyed in a ******* minute, with talented players waiting to get their shot and growing behind producing athletes and it's being **** on? Why? Because complaining is fun?

His entire reasoning is complete BS, makes no sense and demonstrates the dude never participated in any sport. He's a ******* old-*** loud mouth largely ignored by the university, because he yells at clouds and gets in his feelings over "his" guys not playing whilst being racist towards the HC and calling the WR coach the "worst WR coach" after helping Restrepo becoming an all-time-receiver, helping George become actually productive and consistent and developing Horton into a NFL-talent.

Stop defending this bullcrap. I'm sick of this ****.
 
Bender said:
Or sell them George, Horton and Restrepo.

Un****ingbelieveable. Honestly, how do some in here survive during the day?
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You really can't make his logic up.

Three NFL caliber WRs won't be a "sell" now.

LOL

We brought in 3, count them THREE, top 300 players at WR last year already. The proof is already in the pudding.

This account has to be Luther.
 
Hegemon said:
You really can't make his logic up.

Three NFL caliber WRs won't be a "sell" now.

LOL

We brought in 3, count them THREE, top 300 players at WR last year already. The proof is already in the pudding.

This account has to be Luther.
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Only way freshmen play at any time is if the room isn't talented one bit/sucks major ****. Case in point: OJ and the CB room.

Like, there's no logic to see here. This offense is #1 in the country and people ***** about WR rotation? What do people want?
 
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Hegemon said:
You make breathtaking levels of assumptions.

Breathtaking.

If none of this comes to pass, it won't, no APB on Earth will be able to find you.
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I've made no assumptions. The possibilities are playing inexperienced WRs in 2025 or bringing in experienced portal transfers or a combination of both.

Neither is good in my opinion. It is my opinion that Mario will bring in portal transfer WRs. That's an opinion, not an assumption.

I don't see an expanded WR rotation In 2025. Otherwise, why aren't they doing it this year. I don't want to hear Cam Ward as the culprit or the WRs aren't ready. Who's job is to get th ready? If there are injuries, we'll be throwing inexperienced WRs into the game. This is why I said it's a failure. There are 9 of 13 WRs in the room with little to o game experience. They could have got them experience when we got big 4th quarter lead, but no. No substitute at QB or WRs. Both have received no substantial game reps when there were opportunities. It's clear to me (opinion), Mario will hot the portal for a new starting QB and 2 starting transfer WRs.

The expectations next year will be just as high if not higher than 2024. Once the bar has been set for winning, the expectations don't go down. You can't make the argument that were not playing backups because we're trying to win and next year will be different. It's the same. They didn't play more than 4 when we were losing in 2023 and only 4 when we're winning in 2024.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
I've made no assumptions. The possibilities are playing inexperienced WRs in 2025 or bringing in experienced portal transfers or a combination of both.

Neither is good in my opinion. It is my opinion that Mario will bring in portal transfer WRs. That's an opinion, not an assumption.

I don't see an expanded WR rotation In 2025. Otherwise, why aren't they doing it this year. I don't want to hear Cam Ward as the culprit or the WRs aren't ready. Who's job is to get th ready? If there are injuries, we'll be throwing inexperienced WRs into the game. This is why I said it's a failure. There are 9 of 13 WRs in the room with little to o game experience. They could have got them experience when we got big 4th quarter lead, but no. No substitute at QB or WRs. Both have received no substantial game reps when there were opportunities. It's clear to me (opinion), Mario will hot the portal for a new starting QB and 2 starting transfer WRs.

The expectations next year will be just as high if not higher than 2024. Once the bar has been set for winning, the expectations don't go down. You can't make the argument that were not playing backups because we're trying to win and next year will be different. It's the same. They didn't play more than 4 when we were losing in 2023 and only 4 when we're winning in 2024.
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Shut Up Luther
 
Bender said:
How do I put this... no. Absolutely no, no, never ever, not happening, absolutely no chance.

And we can play this game for many other positions on this team where freshmen haven't received meaningful snaps, e.g. the D-Line.

But to twist this into a problem, because FRESHMEN don't see meaningful playing time behind THREE NFL-TALENTED RECEIVERS is completely and utterly absurd.

And wtf do you mean "they aren't ready to play"? How do you know that? Don't even say "they don't play, therefore, they aren't ready", because that's complete bull****. If people actually mean that, they never participated in a mfing sport.

I swear, this fanbase... Some even side with a racist HS coach who has nothing better to do than **** on a 10-1 football team and the WR coach that has demonstrated great ability to develop receivers by elevating those three aforementioned NFL-TALENTED players, with one of them being THE ALL-TIME-RECEIVER.

And wtf does Campbell know about player development? He's a ******* musician.

This is the best season we've enjoyed in a ******* minute, with talented players waiting to get their shot and growing behind producing athletes and it's being **** on? Why? Because complaining is fun?

His entire reasoning is complete BS, makes no sense and demonstrates the dude never participated in any sport. He's a ******* old-*** loud mouth largely ignored by the university, because he yells at clouds and gets in his feelings over "his" guys not playing whilst being racist towards the HC and calling the WR coach the "worst WR coach" after helping Restrepo becoming an all-time-receiver, helping George become actually productive and consistent and developing Horton into a NFL-talent.

Stop defending this bullcrap. I'm sick of this ****.
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What is this BS!!! Nobody is defending Luke. The facts are what they are. We'll have only 1 WR in the 2025 WR room with experience out of 3 recruiting classes. That's FACT and nothing to do with Luke.

Getting players game reps is about having ready backups do to injury and development for 2025. Every position group except QB and WR has got their backups game reps. I'm not even talking about playing backups when the game is in the balance. We've had big leads where we don't play the backup QB or backup WRs. In the one or two times I can remember that the backup QB and WRs played, we just ran the ball to bleed out the clock. Those are development opportunities.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
What is this BS!!! Nobody is defending Luke.
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Yes, you are. Quite literally.

Number1CanesFan said:
The facts are what they are. We'll have only 1 WR in the 2025 WR room with experience out of 3 recruiting classes. That's FACT and nothing to do with Luke
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It's got something to do with him, because it's his point (which is a BS point, because it matters very little).

Number1CanesFan said:
Getting players game reps is about having ready backups do to injury and development for 2025
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No. Even so, they have, just in garbage-time, but there's no difference and if there is, it's on the players not executing in these reps to the best of their ability.

Number1CanesFan said:
Every position group except QB and WR has got their backups game reps.
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D-Line-backups have mostly received snaps in garbage time.

Number1CanesFan said:
We've had big leads where we don't play the backup QB or backup WRs.
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That's not true.

Like, your view on what has happened this season appears to be extremely twisted. Go back and watch the games again.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
I've made no assumptions. The possibilities are playing inexperienced WRs in 2025 or bringing in experienced portal transfers or a combination of both.

Neither is good in my opinion. It is my opinion that Mario will bring in portal transfer WRs. That's an opinion, not an assumption.

I don't see an expanded WR rotation In 2025. Otherwise, why aren't they doing it this year. I don't want to hear Cam Ward as the culprit or the WRs aren't ready. Who's job is to get th ready? If there are injuries, we'll be throwing inexperienced WRs into the game. This is why I said it's a failure. There are 9 of 13 WRs in the room with little to o game experience. They could have got them experience when we got big 4th quarter lead, but no. No substitute at QB or WRs. Both have received no substantial game reps when there were opportunities. It's clear to me (opinion), Mario will hot the portal for a new starting QB and 2 starting transfer WRs.

The expectations next year will be just as high if not higher than 2024. Once the bar has been set for winning, the expectations don't go down. You can't make the argument that were not playing backups because we're trying to win and next year will be different. It's the same. They didn't play more than 4 when we were losing in 2023 and only 4 when we're winning in 2024.
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Absurd. Just absolutely absurd.
 
Bender said:
Yes, you are. Quite literally.


It's got something to do with him, because it's his point (which is a BS point, because it matters very little).


No. Even so, they have, just in garbage-time, but there's no difference and if there is, it's on the players not executing in these reps to the best of their ability.


D-Line-backups have mostly received snaps in garbage time.


That's not true.

Like, your view on what has happened this season appears to be extremely twisted. Go back and watch the games again.
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Did we not have leads against FSU and WF? They could have played the backups against WF for at least 1 - 2 drives where they actually ran passing plays trying to score. That's whsmat development us. Against FSU, they just had thr backup QB hand thr ball off. They treat it like garbage time, so that whst it becomes.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Did we not have leads against FSU and WF? They could have played the backups against WF for at least 1 - 2 drives where they actually ran passing plays trying to score. That's whsmat development us. Against FSU, they just had thr backup QB hand thr ball off. They treat it like garbage time, so that whst it becomes.
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All of this sounds strangely familiar?… oh yeah, I remember, this was the same arguments that people threw out there for the FSU collapse this season. 2023 they played their experienced starters, back up got little or no experience.2024, with WR’s having little playing time and a S**t QB, it was a Prescription for disaster. Now granted, our kids are more talented, but who knows how that plays out with very little game experience and a new QB in 2025. Similar circumstances, but if the shoe fits….
 
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Groz73Cane said:
All of this sounds strangely familiar?… oh yeah, I remember, this was the same arguments that people threw out there for the FSU collapse this season. 2023 they played their experienced starters, back up got little or no experience.2024, with WR’s having little playing time and a S**t QB, it was a Prescription for disaster. Now granted, our kids are more talented, but who knows how that plays out with very little game experience and a new QB in 2025. Similar circumstances, but if the shoe fits….
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... what?
 
Let’s be real there haven’t been talented WR “classes”. The 2023 class had Robbie Washington who has been moved to DB and Ray Ray who was a high school running back. And nobody else.
 
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