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bobbo31 said:
It should have happened already, the new OC should be here evaluating his offensive staff and he should be making the changes he wants on the offensive staff. The longer this gets dragged out the less options a new OC has to make changes to his offensive staff. If Mario drags out a new OC hire or doesn’t allow his new OC to make staff changes on the offensive side of the ball, it’s not much different than just keeping Gattis on staff.
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OC is not making staff changes. Might as well let that narrative go. He might be able to bring in a guy.. at most maybe two. Give me an example of OC that wasn’t also the head coach that went to a new program and made mass staff changes?
 
Hurracanes said:
You guys do realize that if Gattis gets hired by Iowa or anyone else, that means that school has to buy out his contract. Relax.
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The timing of this appears to be entirely driven by money. There's a lot of insiders saying there will be change so the only reason it hasn't happened yet must be money. I don't know all of the terms of his contract but Hurracanes is likely correct that there would not be any buyout payment by Miami, if he's hired by another school. Even if he's not hired by another school, his buy-out may decrease over time.

The biggest problem with all of this is the impact on:

(i) recruiting (we've got to show fast that we're going in a new & more exciting direction) and
(ii) attracting top talent from the Portal.

Sure, you can say that change is coming & we're moving in a great new direction but the impact of that message isn't as strong as being able to tout a great new hire.
 
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Yoyo82 said:
And yet he still kept getting promoted, including getting a job here.

Franklin (who he worked with for 6 years) helped him get a job at Bama.
Saban helped him get a job at Michigan (where he worked with Harbaugh for 3 years).
Michigan (not sure if Harbaugh) helped him get a job here.

Just saying if he was so despised, nobody has fired him yet and every job he's gotten has been a promotion.

Every head coach before Mario, 3 very respected head coaches, didn't fire Gattis and helped him get a better job.
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you make too much sense. You're wasting your time with him - he just wants to hang Gattis publicly and humiliate him.

Unless there's a public social media hanging of the guy many on here won't be satisfied.....
 
DadeCountyFinest said:
Everyone waiting on Gattis to get fired so Mario can announce James Coley and they are back mad again
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That’s one of my biggest fears. Even if he fires Gattis he’ll hire some lackey the likes of coley/Ponce/arroyo because they’ll run the system he wants to run (some variation of the crap we ran this year)

I fear that Mario will refuse to step out of his comfort zone and hire a Garrett Riley or a Warren Ruggiero because those offenses are “too gimmicky” for him. While we continue to put up abysmal numbers all in the name of “doing it the right way”.
 
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Yoyo82 said:
And yet he still kept getting promoted, including getting a job here.

Franklin (who he worked with for 6 years) helped him get a job at Bama.
Saban helped him get a job at Michigan (where he worked with Harbaugh for 3 years).
Michigan (not sure if Harbaugh) helped him get a job here.

Just saying if he was so despised, nobody has fired him yet and every job he's gotten has been a promotion.

Every head coach before Mario, 3 very respected head coaches, didn't fire Gattis and helped him get a better job.
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Foisted​

to impose an unwelcome or unnecessary person or thing on to somebody; to pass an unwanted employee on to another employer without firing them.

Jimmy Kimmel foisted a limp employee to Larry David on the show 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'.
 
Sooo I know there was some excitement recently about Gattis possibly being linked to Iowa.. Looks like Iowa has been talking to a different candidate for the OC position - Jim Svoboda from Tulane. Multiple people, including one of their 247 writers, have heard Svoboda's name mentioned in conjuction to the OC position. And while no decisions have been made, it does look like Iowa will be removing Brian Ferentz from his current OC duties and bringing in someone from the outside...
 
At this point, I'd be very surprised if Gattis is gone before ESD.

I do think the change will come but we will have to wait a bit.
 
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Lazarre said:
OC is not making staff changes. Might as well let that narrative go. He might be able to bring in a guy.. at most maybe two. Give me an example of OC that wasn’t also the head coach that went to a new program and made mass staff changes?
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What about Liam Coen for OC? He’s on the Rams’ dumpster fire this year, but I liked what he did here in Lexington last year…offense wasn’t the same after he left either, though UK’s offensive line has been a complete abortion this season.
 
I would hope Gattis was already told to actively start looking for a new Job and that he would be let go by a certain date. He would still be obligated to perform his current duties like recruiting, and that‘s probably why you see he is accompanying Mario on a few visits. Not sure if It’s in Mario’s DNA to start firing coaches or to push them out the door, but I’m guessing this is his style.
 
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Canesrule230 said:
If Gattis leaves it will be because he was fired. They may call it something silly like a mutual parting but behind closed doors he will have been fired.

1. Gattis is told he is being fired so start looking for another job by date xx/xx- This is critical because otherwise he has no financial incentive to leave. No one else is going to pony up $1.8M to get him to leave his current situation
2. Gattis finds a job - for the sake of this argument lets say he lands the Iowa WR job paying $500K per year
3. Miami agrees to pay him the $1.3M to make it $1.8M or whatever is in his contractual buyout
4. Miami announces a parting of ways or some other bs to help Gattis save face

Either way we need to tell him he is being let go to incentivize him to go look for another job since he likely won't be getting offers anywhere near what we are paying him now.
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That's a very lengthy post to sum up the reality of contract law:

Gattis will earn at least $1.8 million this year. Miami will pay him $1.8 million LESS whatever he earns elsewhere. If he gets a promotion or more money, Miami owes nothing. There is no "buyout" of a contract in the final year of a contract.
 
Hurracanes said:
You guys do realize that if Gattis gets hired by Iowa or anyone else, that means that school has to buy out his contract. Relax.
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I would bet almost anything he’s not going to iowa. They are all about continuity so anyone they might hire, they would want a selfless guy who could buy into their system and stay for the long haul. Gattis isn’t that…
 
406Cane said:
What about Liam Coen for OC? He’s on the Rams’ dumpster fire this year, but I liked what he did here in Lexington last year…offense wasn’t the same after he left either, though UK’s offensive line has been a complete abortion this season.
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The Rams won the Super Bowl in the season before he arrived. They’re set to end up with a top 5 overall draft pick (dealt to the Lions), they currently rank dead last in the NFL in yards per play, and they’re bottom 5 in the NFL in points per game in his first year as their OC.

Their offense is a train wreck for many reasons, but that dropoff is catastrophic.

Hard pass.
 
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