Jordan Scarlett update:

[Port Knox]

I have no clue how recruiting works from inside. Is there a dept, or a group of coaches besides Golden, OC/DC, and position coaches, that are responsible for gathering and doing mild talent assessments via the internet, inbound emails, etc.? Seems like there would be something to this degree, to help expedite the process. We have seen some other schools signing what seems like a ton of coaching staff, and maybe it's to help in that way. The deal with the guys from N. Carolina was pretty alarming IMO. Seems that some places like CI,ITU, and some other internet outlets know about some of these guys before the staff "seems" to. Then again, I didn't hear names like McCord, Blue, Figueroa, or Lockley up until the 11th hour either. Can anyone expand on this? Thanks fellas.

 

[Coach Macho]

When there's a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 total yards in your backyard then you go take a look. I don't give a **** what high school he goes.

They offered Grooms and Moreau is twice the player he is. He's bigger, faster, better hands, better character, better grades and comes from a better program.

Recruiting is about shaking the tree, not ignoring certain schools cause they don't normally produce D1 athletes. (especially when one of your best Lineman comes from that school) smh

If colleges that would wipe the floor with Miami are offering the kid, it's probably a good idea if Miami atleast takes a look at the young man.

That's not good recruiting.

 

[Ghandi]

This guy is still crying about a recruit from 3 years ago.

By the way, who's had the better collegiate career do far sir? Grooms or your kid?

 

[Coach Macho]

Typical response from some immature message board dork. Because I'm telling an honest story that means I'm "crying" about it or bitter. Like a give 2 craps whether Miami offered him or not. He had BETTER offers. He wasn't interested in Miami anyway, I'm just telling the story as example of what i consider poor recruiting.

And who gives a **** who's career is better thus far. They're freshmen. Grooms is at Marshall. LOL. Marshall.

 

[Ghandi]

Has your kid even gotten on the field yet?

Grooms is an all-conference performer at a D1 school.

Again what the **** has your clown kid done so far?

Also, you were begging the coaches to take a look; but the kid wasnt interested? Then what is the point of bothering the staff with ****** kids that have no interest? What are you trying to do exactly in that situation.

 

[Consigliere]

Naples. Venice. Who gives a ****? What difference does that make? Smh

Waiting for answers from you when you get a chance.

Thanks!

 

[Consigliere]

Typical response from some immature message board dork. Because I'm telling an honest story that means I'm "crying" about it or bitter. Like a give 2 craps whether Miami offered him or not. He had BETTER offers. He wasn't interested in Miami anyway, I'm just telling the story as example of what i consider poor recruiting.

And who gives a **** who's career is better thus far. They're freshmen. Grooms is at Marshall. LOL. Marshall.

What better schools? Did UF/FSU offer? Did he go to Al Golden camps? Did he speak to the staff? Did he even want to go to Miami.

You example is really a tiny sample.

 

[Consigliere]

Has your kid even gotten on the field yet?

Grooms is an all-conference performer at a D1 school.

Again what the **** has your clown kid done so far?

Also, you were begging the coaches to take a look; but the kid wasnt interested? Then what is the point of bothering the staff with ****ty kids that have no interest? What are you trying to do exactly in that situation.

This fact pattern so far escapes any logic.

 

[Consigliere]

The Grooms example sucks, Grooms was a 2011 kid. Try again.

2012 - Saw action in 11 games as a reserve in the secondary and on special teams ... Credited with five tackles and a fumble recovery ... Made one stop in the game at Colorado ... One tackle in win at Arizona State ... Recorded a tackle and a fumble recovery at Washington State ... Had one stop vs. USC.

UCLA has him as a CB

http://www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fabian_moreau_807156.html

 

[dk72]

When there's a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 total yards in your backyard then you go take a look. I don't give a **** what high school he goes.

They offered Grooms and Moreau is twice the player he is. He's bigger, faster, better hands, better character, better grades and comes from a better program.

Recruiting is about shaking the tree, not ignoring certain schools cause they don't normally produce D1 athletes. (especially when one of your best Lineman comes from that school) smh

If colleges that would wipe the floor with Miami are offering the kid, it's probably a good idea if Miami atleast takes a look at the young man.

That's not good recruiting.

Which colleges that would "wipe the floor with Miami" offered Fabian Moreau? I looked at his recruiting profiles on Scout, Rivals, and ESPN and didn't see an impressive list of offers.

 

[Consigliere]

He brings up Dillard but forgets to mention we took Duke Johnson, I wondered how he missed that one.

 

[Coach Macho]

Has your kid even gotten on the field yet?

Grooms is an all-conference performer at a D1 school.

Again what the **** has your clown kid done so far?

Also, you were begging the coaches to take a look; but the kid wasnt interested? Then what is the point of bothering the staff with ****** kids that have no interest? What are you trying to do exactly in that situation.

Dude, you're not very smart, are you?

First off, there's no reason to call the kid a clown. The only clown here if your ***** ***.

Moreau is at a relevant program, not Marshall. And he's in the rotation at a position he's never played before. If Moreau went to Marshall he'd be the starting RB from day one. Let's be serious. LOL

Also, nobody begged Miami to look at any of our players. Not even sure where you got that from. SMH. Me, nor the kid, gave 2 damnn whether Miami looked at him or not. I'm more concerned AS A CANE'S FAN that Miami isn't properly shaking the tree. The last time Miami came around here to look at our kids was when we had Feliciano, and those slapd!cks didn't even know about him either. We had to sell Feliciano to them at Miami's spring game. Now, that's not the fault of Golden's staff cause they weren't here, however, they're doing some of the same **** now. Shortly after our QB got an offer from UF they asked Feliciano to "find out about that QB that's at your old high school". What kind of slapd!ck **** is that?! Get in your **** car and find out for yourself, or atleast call his head coach. SMH

Again, as a high school coach, I could care less. My kids are gonna get their offers whether Miami comes around or not. However, as a Miami fan, it bothers me. You shouldn't really be ignoring any high school in Broward or Dade county, let alone a high school where one of your best lineman comes from. You should atleast be creating relationships with the coaching staff. Miami had no clue about Feliciano and if we hadn't reached out to them then he would be playing at Wisconsin or FSU right now, kickin' the **** out of our DT's.


This isn't "crying" or acting bitter. It's giving fans another side of the story from someone who coaches at a local program. If you think this is normal and okay because this particular high school doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent, fine, that's your opinion. Me personally, I don't think it's great recruiting. I see coaches from programs all around the country more often then I see the coaches from our local University. And many times these coaches from other programs say "Miami hasn't looked at him yet?" SMH

 

[Coach Macho]

He brings up Dillard but forgets to mention we took Duke Johnson, I wondered how he missed that one.

It's not about who we took. You don't get it. SMH

Point is going right over your head.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

The point is that they didn't want another smaller sized running back in 2012.

 

[dk72]

Has your kid even gotten on the field yet?

Grooms is an all-conference performer at a D1 school.

Again what the **** has your clown kid done so far?

Also, you were begging the coaches to take a look; but the kid wasnt interested? Then what is the point of bothering the staff with ****** kids that have no interest? What are you trying to do exactly in that situation.

Dude, you're not very smart, are you?

First off, there's no reason to call the kid a clown. The only clown here if your ***** ***.

Moreau is at a relevant program, not Marshall. And he's in the rotation at a position he's never played before. If Moreau went to Marshall he'd be the starting RB from day one. Let's be serious. LOL

Also, nobody begged Miami to look at any of our players. Not even sure where you got that from. SMH. Me, nor the kid, gave 2 damnn whether Miami looked at him or not. I'm more concerned AS A CANE'S FAN that Miami isn't properly shaking the tree. The last time Miami came around here to look at our kids was when we had Feliciano, and those slapd!cks didn't even know about him either. We had to sell Feliciano to them at Miami's spring game. Now, that's not the fault of Golden's staff cause they weren't here, however, they're doing some of the same **** now. Shortly after our QB got an offer from UF they asked Feliciano to "find out about that QB that's at your old high school". What kind of slapd!ck **** is that?! Get in your **** car and find out for yourself, or atleast call his head coach. SMH

Again, as a high school coach, I could care less. My kids are gonna get their offers whether Miami comes around or not. However, as a Miami fan, it bothers me. You shouldn't really be ignoring any high school in Broward or Dade county, let alone a high school where one of your best lineman comes from. You should atleast be creating relationships with the coaching staff. Miami had no clue about Feliciano and if we hadn't reached out to them then he would be playing at Wisconsin or FSU right now, kickin' the **** out of our DT's.


This isn't "crying" or acting bitter. It's giving fans another side of the story from someone who coaches at a local program. If you think this is normal and okay because this particular high school doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent, fine, that's your opinion. Me personally, I don't think it's great recruiting. I see coaches from programs all around the country more often then I see the coaches from our local University. And many times these coaches from other programs say "Miami hasn't looked at him yet?" SMH

But it's a bit hard to take your criticism seriously when you try to support it by saying that Moreau was being recruited by programs that would "wipe the floor with Miami." The kid's offer list was solid, but far from impressive. There were no Alabamas, FSUs, NDs, Texas, Georgias, LSUs, Stanfords, or any other top programs recruiting him. And as it was pointed out, we already had Duke Johnson squared away at RB, and were looking for a complementary bigger back.

 

[Coach Macho]

When there's a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 total yards in your backyard then you go take a look. I don't give a **** what high school he goes.

They offered Grooms and Moreau is twice the player he is. He's bigger, faster, better hands, better character, better grades and comes from a better program.

Recruiting is about shaking the tree, not ignoring certain schools cause they don't normally produce D1 athletes. (especially when one of your best Lineman comes from that school) smh

If colleges that would wipe the floor with Miami are offering the kid, it's probably a good idea if Miami atleast takes a look at the young man.

That's not good recruiting.

Which colleges that would "wipe the floor with Miami" offered Fabian Moreau? I looked at his recruiting profiles on Scout, Rivals, and ESPN and didn't see an impressive list of offers.

Really? LOL

Wake Forest and Boston College have always given us trouble, but that's small time.

UCLA would slaughter us, as would Ole Miss.

Vandy would probably beat us too, as would Ohio State.

And Kansas State...well I think we all know what happened there.



Soooooo, yeah.

 

[ucrew02]

Guy has a legitimate point whether you agree with him or not. Also, calling a kid you've never met a clown is a little ridiculous. I want the staff looking high and low for the best players. I'm not all that concerned who they are or where they're from

 

[dk72]

He brings up Dillard but forgets to mention we took Duke Johnson, I wondered how he missed that one.

It's not about who we took. You don't get it. SMH

Point is going right over your head.

Actually, yes, it is. So you are saying the coaches should be using their limited recruiting time looking at a kid they don't want or need because they already have someone better?

 

[Coach Macho]

Has your kid even gotten on the field yet?

Grooms is an all-conference performer at a D1 school.

Again what the **** has your clown kid done so far?

Also, you were begging the coaches to take a look; but the kid wasnt interested? Then what is the point of bothering the staff with ****** kids that have no interest? What are you trying to do exactly in that situation.

Dude, you're not very smart, are you?

First off, there's no reason to call the kid a clown. The only clown here if your ***** ***.

Moreau is at a relevant program, not Marshall. And he's in the rotation at a position he's never played before. If Moreau went to Marshall he'd be the starting RB from day one. Let's be serious. LOL

Also, nobody begged Miami to look at any of our players. Not even sure where you got that from. SMH. Me, nor the kid, gave 2 damnn whether Miami looked at him or not. I'm more concerned AS A CANE'S FAN that Miami isn't properly shaking the tree. The last time Miami came around here to look at our kids was when we had Feliciano, and those slapd!cks didn't even know about him either. We had to sell Feliciano to them at Miami's spring game. Now, that's not the fault of Golden's staff cause they weren't here, however, they're doing some of the same **** now. Shortly after our QB got an offer from UF they asked Feliciano to "find out about that QB that's at your old high school". What kind of slapd!ck **** is that?! Get in your **** car and find out for yourself, or atleast call his head coach. SMH

Again, as a high school coach, I could care less. My kids are gonna get their offers whether Miami comes around or not. However, as a Miami fan, it bothers me. You shouldn't really be ignoring any high school in Broward or Dade county, let alone a high school where one of your best lineman comes from. You should atleast be creating relationships with the coaching staff. Miami had no clue about Feliciano and if we hadn't reached out to them then he would be playing at Wisconsin or FSU right now, kickin' the **** out of our DT's.


This isn't "crying" or acting bitter. It's giving fans another side of the story from someone who coaches at a local program. If you think this is normal and okay because this particular high school doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent, fine, that's your opinion. Me personally, I don't think it's great recruiting. I see coaches from programs all around the country more often then I see the coaches from our local University. And many times these coaches from other programs say "Miami hasn't looked at him yet?" SMH

But it's a bit hard to take your criticism seriously when you try to support it by saying that Moreau was being recruited by programs that would "wipe the floor with Miami." The kid's offer list was solid, but far from impressive. There were no Alabamas, FSUs, NDs, Texas, Georgias, LSUs, Stanfords, or any other top programs recruiting him. And as it was pointed out, we already had Duke Johnson squared away at RB, and were looking for a complementary bigger back.

See above post.

 

[LuCane]

He brings up Dillard but forgets to mention we took Duke Johnson, I wondered how he missed that one.

It's not about who we took. You don't get it. SMH

Point is going right over your head.

I kinda see both sides here and I genuinely wonder about the organizational/strategic skills of a guy like Carroll. However, it is entirely possible the coaches didn't see Moreau as a RB prospect. He was moved to DB at UCLA. In that class, we got Antonio Crawford, Deon Bush, Rayshawn Jenkins, Nate Dortch, Vernon Davis, Larry Hope, Ladarius Gunter, and Tracy Howard. That's 7 DBs. May even have been 1 corner too many. If (and I cannot confirm) the coaches viewed him as a future Corner, they may have just preferred the other guys.

None of that is to explain why they didn't at least inquire. That is probably an organization/strategy issue.