Jordan Scarlett update:

[Coach Macho]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

 

[Coach Macho]

When there's a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 total yards in your backyard then you go take a look. I don't give a **** what high school he goes.

They offered Grooms and Moreau is twice the player he is. He's bigger, faster, better hands, better character, better grades and comes from a better program.

Recruiting is about shaking the tree, not ignoring certain schools cause they don't normally produce D1 athletes. (especially when one of your best Lineman comes from that school) smh

If colleges that would wipe the floor with Miami are offering the kid, it's probably a good idea if Miami atleast takes a look at the young man.

That's not good recruiting.

Which colleges that would "wipe the floor with Miami" offered Fabian Moreau? I looked at his recruiting profiles on Scout, Rivals, and ESPN and didn't see an impressive list of offers.

Really? LOL

Wake Forest and Boston College have always given us trouble, but that's small time.

UCLA would slaughter us, as would Ole Miss.

Vandy would probably beat us too, as would Ohio State.

And Kansas State...well I think we all know what happened there.



Soooooo, yeah.

Well you took a potentially solid argument and went full potato, soooooooooo yeah.

LOL. You're telling me I'm potato? You're saying those teams would've have kicked our *** the last 2 years.

Pffft.

 

[dk72]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Given the hundreds of great athletes playing football in South Florida every year, not to mention the many thousands more around the state, of course Miami is going to "ignore" some of them. Again, that YOU are so sold on Moreau being so amazing is great. But that doesn't mean Miami should have been, or that many other top schools and recruiters were.

 

[Coach Macho]

Ole Miss didn't beat a team with a winning record last year so I don't know how them slaughtering us is a forgone conclusion. Like Grooms playing at Marshall means anything. If he is good enough it won't keep him from getting drafted. The only reason Grooms is at Marshall is because of grades. Lets not act like Grooms wasn't an elite level prospect who's offer list blows Moreau's out of the water. Why go after Grooms and Marshall anyway? You didn't like your kid being called a clown.

Nobody is attacking Grooms. Moreau was better though. And Miami offered Grooms off the same basis that they should've offered Moreau. (or looked at him I should say)

Why didn't UF or FSU **** even USF offer the kid if he was so good?

They didn't see him and/or didn't have a need. Watch his tape and tell me I'm lying. (about him being a stud)

 

[USNAVYCANE]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Why would they waste time on a kid they don't want and doesn't want to be there?

 

[Consigliere]

This thread is officially terrible.

To sum it up via confucius

Kid no want offer

Staff no want kid

Random poster take issue

Are we all on the same page?

 

[Coach Macho]

I don't why you people keep harping on the Grooms vs. Moreau thing. It's not even about that. That's getting off topic. It's about Miami ignoring schools in their backyard. Period. Moreau is an example. Feliciano is an example. (can't blame that on Golden's staff though) Shoot, Wade Freebeck is an example.

 

[Coach Macho]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Why would they waste time on a kid they don't want and doesn't want to be there?

SMH. Omg.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT HIM TO KNOW WHETHER THEY WANTED HIM OR NOT! (and how would they know if Moreau liked them?)

 

[dk72]

This thread is officially terrible.

To sum it up via confucius

Kid no want offer

Staff no want kid

Random poster take issue

Are we all on the same page?

That about sums it up.

 

[cowboycane]

Listen man your argument is solid: Moreau was a solid prospect, you think he should have gotten a look, and furthermore you think the staff is ignoring a school to their own peril. That's fine. But don't drag down Grooms, who we all loved as a prospect, and say stupid **** like "Ole ******* Miss would wipe the floor with Miami" because it is not only illogical but also is a surefire way to take away from your own point.

No one thinks this staff is perfect but stick to your point.

 

[Ghandi]

I know who this is now...it's Cityboycane from Grassy.

^Strong Western High bias.
^Lack of self-awareness or perspective
^Is comparing a third-string kid to an all conference performer.
^Is mad about te coaches "not shaking the free" for a kid he consistently contacted the staff about. But wait, none were interested in attending Miami.

This ******* dummie...If I knew who it was like I do now, I would have put his dumb *** on ignore.

 

[Coach Macho]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Given the hundreds of great athletes playing football in South Florida every year, not to mention the many thousands more around the state, of course Miami is going to "ignore" some of them. Again, that YOU are so sold on Moreau being so amazing is great. But that doesn't mean Miami should have been, or that many other top schools and recruiters were.

You don't ignore one of the top athletes in your backyard. You don't ignore a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 yards.

 

[fincane]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

This is about evaluations. Unless you think they aren't aware that he exists. They didn't think he warranted the interest. Right or wrong, thats the scenario you're laying out.

A coach can keep kids from considering Miami if they've felt the school has ignored them in the past. Its petty. It sets a poor example, but we know coaches and particularly ones in south Florida with a modicum of fame aren't above being that type of petty.

 

[Coach Macho]

I know who this is now...it's Cityboycane from Grassy.

^Strong Western High bias.
^Lack of self-awareness or perspective
^Is comparing a third-string kid to an all conference performer.
^Is mad about te coaches "not shaking the free" for a kid he consistently contacted the staff about. But wait, none were interested in attending Miami.

This ******* dummie...If I knew who it was like I do now, I would have put his dumb *** on ignore.

Dude, you're a ******* idiot. Nobody contacted the staff about any of our kids.

 

[dk72]

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Given the hundreds of great athletes playing football in South Florida every year, not to mention the many thousands more around the state, of course Miami is going to "ignore" some of them. Again, that YOU are so sold on Moreau being so amazing is great. But that doesn't mean Miami should have been, or that many other top schools and recruiters were.

You don't ignore one of the top athletes in your backyard. You don't ignore a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 yards.

That "top athlete" didn't seem to impress too many "top programs" now did he?

 

[Ghandi]

I don't why you people keep harping on the Grooms vs. Moreau thing. It's not even about that. That's getting off topic. It's about Miami ignoring schools in their backyard. Period. Moreau is an example. Feliciano is an example. (can't blame that on Golden's staff though) Shoot, Wade Freebeck is an example.

It was your example. You clearly made the comparison saying that the Western kid was better because he had 1900 total yards. How you can say that a kid (Grooms) who is excelling at this level is a worse player than a 4th string DB at UCLA is beyond going full potatoe.

 

[Coach Macho]

They offered Grooms in 2011 when they were scrambling to fill the class after the coaching change. UCLA was scrambling to fill their class in 2012 after a coaching change.

See a pattern?

Anyway, did the kid camp at Miami?

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

This is about evaluations. Unless you think they aren't aware that he exists. They didn't think he warranted the interest. Right or wrong, thats the scenario you're laying out.

A coach can keep kids from considering Miami if they've felt the school has ignored them in the past. Its petty. It sets a poor example, but we know coaches and particularly ones in south Florida with a modicum of fame aren't above being that type of petty.

He wasn't even evaluated. LOL

 

[Coach Macho]

I don't why you people keep harping on the Grooms vs. Moreau thing. It's not even about that. That's getting off topic. It's about Miami ignoring schools in their backyard. Period. Moreau is an example. Feliciano is an example. (can't blame that on Golden's staff though) Shoot, Wade Freebeck is an example.

It was your example. You clearly made the comparison saying that the Western kid was better because he had 1900 total yards. How you can say that a kid (Grooms) who is excelling at this level is a worse player than a 4th string DB at UCLA is beyond going full potatoe.

DB at UCLA > RB at Marshall

 

[Coach Macho]

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Given the hundreds of great athletes playing football in South Florida every year, not to mention the many thousands more around the state, of course Miami is going to "ignore" some of them. Again, that YOU are so sold on Moreau being so amazing is great. But that doesn't mean Miami should have been, or that many other top schools and recruiters were.

You don't ignore one of the top athletes in your backyard. You don't ignore a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 yards.

That "top athlete" didn't seem to impress too many "top programs" now did he?

So there's not a handful of teams on his offer list that would beat Miami?

Right. That must've been a different K-State that stomped us.

 

[fincane]

UCLA wasn't scrambling at all. They loved Moreau despite the fact that they were deep at RB. They saw the athletic potential.

Coaching changes almost always result in a school scrambling to fill their class.

Anyway, did he camp at Miami? I'm guessing that's a no, or you don't know, since you won't answer.

I'll tell you again, they weren't scrambling when they signed Moreau.

No he didn't camp at Miami. It's not his job to make Miami notice him. He didn't care for Miami so he had no desire to.

And I'll say it again...

This isn't about the fact that Miami didn't offer him. It's about Miami not properly shaking the tree. Moreau isn't the only kid they've ignored.

Given the hundreds of great athletes playing football in South Florida every year, not to mention the many thousands more around the state, of course Miami is going to "ignore" some of them. Again, that YOU are so sold on Moreau being so amazing is great. But that doesn't mean Miami should have been, or that many other top schools and recruiters were.

You don't ignore one of the top athletes in your backyard. You don't ignore a 6'0" 185lb 4.38 kid who had 1900 yards.

Stop it. You can ignore. I know that because thats exactly what happened. It'll happen again. Mack Brown chose Gilbert over Andrew Luck and let him go to Stanford because he already had his guy. Didn't offer him. It happens everywhere. Moreau isn't unique. Neither is Miami.